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    PA GOP Attempt to Gerrymander Judicial System


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    Republicans might not believe in science when it relates to climate change. But they are extremely effective operators using statistical science to draw up districts in ways that ensure they have power despite not having the people.
    Let's get embedded tweets working again!

    https://forums.prosportsdaily.com/sh...5#post33780085

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    Th gop always working to duck over people of color.

    But this is mostly so in the future they can change their electors in a presidential election which they lose and then can have the courts try to overturn it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    Th gop always working to duck over people of color.

    But this is mostly so in the future they can change their electors in a presidential election which they lose and then can have the courts try to overturn it.
    I think it's just the same old gerrymandering they've been doing ... the districts are already gerrymandered, they are now just trying to have them apply to judges to reduce the influence of Philly. The gerrymandered districts are effectively legal now so they are looking to maximize the influence they can get from what they've already done. This is going to be the case everywhere there is an advantage right now.

    They will eventually realize that they will lose people with their shenanigans and their membership will continue to shrink while the "middle" in the Dem party will keep growing. All this stuff just feels like it's going to move some of the Dem party more right only to create a new party to the left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    I think it's just the same old gerrymandering they've been doing ... the districts are already gerrymandered, they are now just trying to have them apply to judges to reduce the influence of Philly. The gerrymandered districts are effectively legal now so they are looking to maximize the influence they can get from what they've already done. This is going to be the case everywhere there is an advantage right now.

    They will eventually realize that they will lose people with their shenanigans and their membership will continue to shrink while the "middle" in the Dem party will keep growing. All this stuff just feels like it's going to move some of the Dem party more right only to create a new party to the left.
    Has this been done before regarding Judges?

    As for them losing people, clearly you donít understand the primary reason for gerrymandering. Gerrymandering ensures you still win even with less people, so them losing people as a result of gerrymandering wonít matter if they Gerrymander in a way that makes those losses irrelevant...

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    This is not partisan. In fact this garbage has bipartisan support nationwide.

    Let's stop the gerrymandering in totality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Has this been done before regarding Judges?

    As for them losing people, clearly you donít understand the primary reason for gerrymandering. Gerrymandering ensures you still win even with less people, so them losing people as a result of gerrymandering wonít matter if they Gerrymander in a way that makes those losses irrelevant...
    Yes, I understand. They are losing voters and are using the already gerrymandered districts to keep their judge advantage.

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    New round of GOP gerrymandering in Southern states could be the most racist yet

    https://www.salon.com/2021/02/19/new...st-racist-yet/

    Worth a read.
    HELLO

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    New round of GOP gerrymandering in Southern states could be the most racist yet

    https://www.salon.com/2021/02/19/new...st-racist-yet/

    Worth a read.
    Until someone makes a constitutional argument that makes party affiliation based redistricting illegal.

    I don't know how this can realistically be fixed at the federal level. The states need to pass legislation that makes the redistricting be gerrymandering tested and that requires they re-do it if it fails some basic tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    Until someone makes a constitutional argument that makes party affiliation based redistricting illegal.

    I don't know how this can realistically be fixed at the federal level. The states need to pass legislation that makes the redistricting be gerrymandering tested and that requires they re-do it if it fails some basic tests.
    We covered this when the supreme court took on the gerrymandering case but that would require a change in justices as well. The ones that were against putting a stop to the gerrymandering argued that it isn't something they should be deciding on. It's contradictory when you look at their reasoning sure as we covered (from the conservative justices, it was a 5-4 split at the time before courts shifted more) but that is something that will require a shifting of the courts at this point.

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