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  1. #376
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    Likely in part because HI doesn't want people moving to the islands for entry level jobs, and that the appeal of living in HI is enough to get people to do the work.

    By state isn't really enough to get there. TX has some of the lowest cost to live places as well as DFW which is not a cheap place to live relatively.
    Hawaii has other anomolies........for one, a good share of people in low paying jobs are locals who never considered college and may live in a house with 3 or more generations under the same roof.

    Then there's this...places like Los Angeles and NYC have been known to buy airline tickets for homeless people to Honolulu...of course one way tickets.....so there are homeless living all over the place there because quite obviously they can't afford to leave nor can they afford a place to live.....but hey, LA and NYC don't have to deal with them.
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    Amazon now have convenient stores which donít need cashiers. You simply take what you want and the app charges you.

    Walmart has more and more self check outs, some barely have any cashiers.

    Technology is the real wage killer. Raising the minimum wage only makes technological advances more pressing for big corporations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewersfan255 View Post
    Iíve always said that big corporations can afford a wage increase. Small businesses get hurt the most by a wage increase because most of the time they are already hurting for the most part.


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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    Amazon now have convenient stores which donít need cashiers. You simply take what you want and the app charges you.

    Walmart has more and more self check outs, some barely have any cashiers.

    Technology is the real wage killer. Raising the minimum wage only makes technological advances more pressing for big corporations.
    This is always used as a threat. But consider Amazon and WalMart did this without a $15 minimum wage. The idea that the $15 minimum wage is causing them to do this is obviously wrong, they are doing it regardless. And if thatís the case, may as well get workers as much money as possible before they are replaced.

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    Self serve checkouts eliminate some cashier jobs....but not that many actual jobs. Look at how many people are still around those self checkouts making sure you're getting checked out, etc. Technology improvements do more to change job responsibilities than actually eliminate jobs.

    ...well, other than the Lego factory in Denmark
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Walter_White View Post
    Folks will not work for a small business if they can get more pay doing the same thing for a larger corporation.
    Not every town has billion dollar corporations or large (over 500- toover 1500 employee businesses depending on type of business), also a lot of corporations are more strict in who they hire based on drugs, background checks, bonding, criminal records.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    Amazon now have convenient stores which donít need cashiers. You simply take what you want and the app charges you.

    Walmart has more and more self check outs, some barely have any cashiers.

    Technology is the real wage killer. Raising the minimum wage only makes technological advances more pressing for big corporations.
    You think keeping wages down would stop corporations from automation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    This is always used as a threat. But consider Amazon and WalMart did this without a $15 minimum wage. The idea that the $15 minimum wage is causing them to do this is obviously wrong, they are doing it regardless. And if thatís the case, may as well get workers as much money as possible before they are replaced.
    Yup!!

    This will be the trend regardless of what the minimum wage is, at least if itís a bit higher then whoever works there wonít live in poverty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    This is always used as a threat. But consider Amazon and WalMart did this without a $15 minimum wage. The idea that the $15 minimum wage is causing them to do this is obviously wrong, they are doing it regardless. And if thatís the case, may as well get workers as much money as possible before they are replaced.
    Do you think they will be replaced sooner or later with a $15 minimum wage?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    You think keeping wages down would stop corporations from automation?
    No of course not, but it wonít incentivize them to push for automation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    Do you think they will be replaced sooner or later with a $15 minimum wage?
    Is Costco going to cut jobs when they raised their wages to $16/hr?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbroncos78087 View Post
    Is Costco going to cut jobs when they raised their wages to $16/hr?
    Not if thatís their choice.

    Also, Costco makes the majority of their money from membership fees. They sell chicken at a loss just to get you in the store. Their cashiers typically have big orders as well. In other words, thereís a difference between being a cashier at Costco and asking someone if they want to supersize their order...

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    Not if thatís their choice.

    Also, Costco makes the majority of their money from membership fees. They sell chicken at a loss just to get you in the store. Their cashiers typically have big orders as well. In other words, thereís a difference between being a cashier at Costco and asking someone if they want to supersize their order...
    I'm guessing you never worked fast food when you were younger because that's not a particularly true statement. Those jobs minute to minute can be very demanding in terms of the number of orders and how much food/transactions need to be made. It's only gotten worse in an era of Doordash, UberEats, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joeyc77 View Post
    Do you think they will be replaced sooner or later with a $15 minimum wage?
    Probably sooner, but I think theyíll make more money if they get $15 until they are replaced instead of $7.25 until they are replaced.

    Which do you think helps workers more? $15 an hour or $7.25?

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