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  1. #16
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    The rockies were getting rid of Nolan because the dodgers and padres are so far ahead of them playoffs expansion didn't happen. Cleveland just don't want to spend money I think it had nothing to do with playoffs at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adster View Post
    The rockies were getting rid of Nolan because the dodgers and padres are so far ahead of them playoffs expansion didn't happen. Cleveland just don't want to spend money I think it had nothing to do with playoffs at all
    Expanded playoffs = more meaningful games (interest) + less teams tanking. Less teams tanking = more teams spending $$ to sign or trade for good players.

    Colorado may have held onto Nolan if they had a better chance of making the playoffs. Cleveland may have spent if there was a better chance of making the playoffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RR Cool Jay View Post
    Completely agree with this. The Cubs, Rockies, Cleveland, and others have apparently conceded the year. Expand the playoffs and this wouldn't happen. An argument can be made that a team with a losing record may win the world series. If a team barely makes the playoffs, makes it all the way through and wins, deserves to be the champion. You play the season to make the playoffs and then you let the playoffs play themselves out.
    Yeah, this isn't true. The Cubs would be dropping payroll regardless. They could have made a few changes and dropped money and won the central because it sucks. They are only interested in saving money, extended playoffs wouldn't have changed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RR Cool Jay View Post
    Expanded playoffs = more meaningful games (interest) + less teams tanking. Less teams tanking = more teams spending $$ to sign or trade for good players.

    Colorado may have held onto Nolan if they had a better chance of making the playoffs. Cleveland may have spent if there was a better chance of making the playoffs.
    You are looking at it the wrong way. The point is, the owners have to do very to make the playoffs and would get that playoff money. That is why the players wouldn't want it. Colorado was trading him no matter what, it is what he wanted. Cleveland weren't going to spend. You are forgetting how several owners are crying poor because of the money they lost last year.

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    Expanded playoffs means its easier to make the playoffs, so teams can get away with spending less and still getting postseason revenue.
    Fewer teams means (likely) more money spent to field a playoff caliber team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dmac View Post
    You are looking at it the wrong way. The point is, the owners have to do very to make the playoffs and would get that playoff money. That is why the players wouldn't want it. Colorado was trading him no matter what, it is what he wanted. Cleveland weren't going to spend. You are forgetting how several owners are crying poor because of the money they lost last year.
    You're talking in a vaccum. Heard it on the radio today that players in general want more playoff games. Every player that made the expanded playoffs last year celebrated that they were there. The pandemic complicated how the offseason played out.

    We didnt have expanded playoffs because of the pandemic. There was already talk of expanded playoffs before any of this. The pandemic simply increased the urgency due to a shortened season. Expanded playoffs is an inevitability and it will increase a players stock, increase revenue, increase fan interest. Win-win-win on all sides. The Union wont do it this year because they dont want to move on the current CBA because of how much money the players lost last year. This is most certainly going to be renegotiated in the next CBA in December along with universal DH, which also is in the best interest of the players. When a team has a chance of making the post season, the owners will spend to bolster their rosters. The more teams that have a chance to make the playoffs, the more money the owners will put into it.

    Do you honestly think that a single player who played in any year cares about getting paid for the post season? They already made their money during the season, playoffs is for the trophy.
    Last edited by TheFanGuy; 02-04-2021 at 07:26 AM.

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    Of course they care about making even more money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Of course they care about making even more money.
    Really? In the history of the MLB postseason, which player refused to play the playoffs? Or even put up a stink about playing in the playoffs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by goingfor28 View Post
    Expanded playoffs means its easier to make the playoffs, so teams can get away with spending less and still getting postseason revenue.
    Fewer teams means (likely) more money spent to field a playoff caliber team.

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    You have that backwards. More teams mean more money will be spent to field a playoff caliber team. The more teams that make the playoffs or have a chance to, the more money owners will put into their teams. Yankees and the Dodgers are examples of this.
    Last edited by TheFanGuy; 02-04-2021 at 10:44 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFanGuy View Post
    Really? In the history of the MLB postseason, which player refused to play the playoffs? Or even put up a stink about playing in the playoffs?
    What does any of that have to do with a player's intrinsic desire for more money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFanGuy View Post
    You have that backwards. More teams mean more money will be spent to field a playoff caliber team. The more teams that make the playoffs or have a chance to, the more money owners will put into their teams. Yankees and the Dodgers are examples of this.
    No they aren't. They're examples of classic, successful franchises that have super deep pockets and are willing to use them. The Rays or Pirates ain't magically going to juice their payroll up to $200MM because they think they're on the verge of a playoff run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    What does any of that have to do with a player's intrinsic desire for more money?
    Haha, I was wondering that as well. I read it multiple times and it has nothing to do with what you said.

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    I think it's funny this is even an argument. The owners constantly and consistently look for ways to spend less money. They are absolutely going to be content to spend less if they can sneak into the playoffs with less. The Cubs completely planned to drop huge payroll and still possibly compete in a bad NL Central, even if the Arenado trade has now hurt those chances. The owners wouldn't even be fighting for expanded playoffs if they thought it was going to lead to them spending more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    What does any of that have to do with a player's intrinsic desire for more money?
    It was said earlier that players don't want to play the playoffs because they don't get paid for it. I'm saying players get paid for the season and don't care if they get paid for the playoffs. When has a player that played in the playoffs not want to be there? That's what they strive for. Every time they play in the playoffs, it increases their stock. The more players in the playoffs the better it is for them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFanGuy View Post
    It was said earlier that players don't want to play the playoffs because they don't get paid for it. I'm saying players get paid for the season and don't care if they get paid for the playoffs. When has a player that played in the playoffs not want to be there? That's what they strive for. Every time they play in the playoffs, it increases their stock. The more players in the playoffs the better it is for them.
    No, that wasn't said. Any other make believe arguments you'd like to address?

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