Final Four QBs Best since 2000+ (EPA per Play metric)

[Bullseyed]

#6 was amusing, Ben/Hasselbeck/Delhomme/Plummer.

[NBA all the way]

Wonder what the best in history was?

[Bullseyed]

Wonder what the best in history was?

Dunno, assuming they don't have EPA/Play stats all the way back and thus the cutoff.

[NBA all the way]

Dunno, assuming they don't have EPA/Play stats all the way back and thus the cutoff.

Yeah, you're probably right.

[warfelg]

Holy **** that Nick Foles being the worst ever at this. Hahaha

[NBA all the way]

Holy **** that Nick Foles being the worst ever at this. Hahaha

He had some stiff competition from Sanchez and Dilfer.

[manbearchef]

Jake Delhomme highlights some flaws with the EPA stats for QBs. Steve Smith had one of the best seasons for a WR in 2005 and was basically all we had in the passing game. He was pulling in jump balls thrown into double coverage and making Delhomme look much better.

EPA as an individual stat is so hard to judge since it's mainly only looking at the down/distance/situation and observing how it changes after plays. It also can't differentiate from someone on a stacked team vs a bad team and the values change from season to season. Offensive EPA as a whole is trending up with the rule changes, passing efficiency, and aggressive play calling. Brady's 2007 EPA is insane, but it was also ahead of its time.

Just for clarification, there's no adjustment for different EPAs across the years, right? So year 2000 is based on the 2000 season's EPA values rather than somehow extrapolating them to better compare with 2020 values.

[QB_Eagles]

Holy **** that Nick Foles being the worst ever at this. Hahaha

Small sample size because he only started 3 games in the regular season and had a terrible game against the Raiders.

Aaron Rodgers also had a terrible game against the Bucs this season, but had 15 other games to make up for this. (Not that Foles is comparable to Rodgers in general. Although his 2017 postseason was peak GODgers statistically.)

By the way, EPA will go up as more points are scored.

[warfelg]

Small sample size because he only started 3 games in the regular season and had a terrible game against the Raiders.

Aaron Rodgers also had a terrible game against the Bucs this season, but had 15 other games to make up for this. (Not that Foles is comparable to Rodgers in general. Although his 2017 postseason was peak GODgers statistically.)

By the way, EPA will go up as more points are scored.

I was more laughing at the fact he’s regularly pretty low on advanced stats yet someone insists he’s a good starter.


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