RJ Barrett

[AI]

At this point, everything has to be on the table. Certain players work better when surrounded by players with certain skillsets. Randle needs the ball in his hands, as does Payton (who I never wanted us to sign) and so does RJ. All three of them have inconsistent jumpshots and get most of their points by driving to the basket.

Solution? Break up the starting 5. Once we’re fully healthy, I’d roll with this:

PG Immanuel Quickley - Austin Rivers
SG Alec Burks - Reggie Bullock
SF RJ Barrett - Kevin Knox
PF Julius Randle - Obi Toppin
C Mitchell Robinson - Nerlens Noel

That to me, works better. Completely remove Payton from the rotation, and don’t even think about giving playing time to DSJ.

[KnicksorBust]

At this point, everything has to be on the table. Certain players work better when surrounded by players with certain skillsets. Randle needs the ball in his hands, as does Payton (who I never wanted us to sign) and so does RJ. All three of them have inconsistent jumpshots and get most of their points by driving to the basket.

Solution? Break up the starting 5. Once we’re fully healthy, I’d roll with this:

PG Immanuel Quickley - Austin Rivers
SG Alec Burks - Reggie Bullock
SF RJ Barrett - Kevin Knox
PF Julius Randle - Obi Toppin
C Mitchell Robinson - Nerlens Noel

That to me, works better. Completely remove Payton from the rotation, and don’t even think about giving playing time to DSJ.

Do you really think RJ and Randle can work long-term? I do not. I see no chemistry with them. I like that you put our two best shooters but I still think Randle or RJ has to go.

[AI]

Do you really think RJ and Randle can work long-term? I do not. I see no chemistry with them. I like that you put our two best shooters but I still think Randle or RJ has to go.

I don’t think they can work long-term, I was more referring as to finishing this season with that roster then those would be my specific rotations.

I’ve openly been against 90% of the roster decisions the FO made this offseason, starting with the Obi pick which I did not like at all.

Personally, I don’t see star potential in RJ even though he is only 20 years old. He has a high-floor but I don’t believe he ends up reaching his ceiling because of the inconsistent shooting.

I also don’t think Randle’s play is sustainable at all and it is not conducive to wins. Randle would be a hell of a 6th man because what he does would really play off the bench on a winning team. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective and I don’t think you can be a contending team with Randle as your primary creator.

It’s ridiculous to think that we’ve had a good amount of lotto picks recently and have had max cap space for multiple years and sadly we have nothing to show for it. The fact that we brought back Payton this offseason really removed some of the shine the new FO was getting at-least in my eyes.

[YoungStuna]

I like to see your first lineup as well but the second is destined to fail and your setting up a 20 yr old to fail as well. You don't Zion surrounded by that mess in the second unit. You actually gave RJ nothing, I mean nothing of value and not one true shooter?

TakeY is right at some point the Knicks need to play guys to figure out who is the future, you have to build somewhere. Most teams at the very least have some sort of identity, can anyone tell us what our's is for the future?

If Knicks are determined and resign Randle then I'm not sure what value RJ will have tbh. Unless RJ develops a clean jump shot if you include Mitch how can that really survive in this shooters league?

Look around the NBA, the second thought players on most courts are deadly shooters, the Net's put a team on the floor where a guy like Green and Harris would be our best shooters and they are not even secondary players.

Well first off, RJ isn’t Zion.

If we don’t play Frank, Rivers and Bullock are still solid shooters. Obi projects to be a decent shooter and isn’t ball-dominant at this stage of his development like Randle is. I don’t see why we wouldn’t see the best of RJ with this construction.

He’d also be able to feast on backup players.

[KnicksorBust]

Well first off, RJ isn’t Zion.

If we don’t play Frank, Rivers and Bullock are still solid shooters. Obi projects to be a decent shooter and isn’t ball-dominant at this stage of his development like Randle is. I don’t see why we wouldn’t see the best of RJ with this construction.

He’d also be able to feast on backup players.

So I'm assuming (by you putting RJ on the bench) that if you had to pick you would rather keep Randle long-term over RJ?

[ewing]

I like to see your first lineup as well but the second is destined to fail and your setting up a 20 yr old to fail as well. You don't Zion surrounded by that mess in the second unit. You actually gave RJ nothing, I mean nothing of value and not one true shooter?

TakeY is right at some point the Knicks need to play guys to figure out who is the future, you have to build somewhere. Most teams at the very least have some sort of identity, can anyone tell us what our's is for the future?

If Knicks are determined and resign Randle then I'm not sure what value RJ will have tbh. Unless RJ develops a clean jump shot if you include Mitch how can that really survive in this shooters league?

Look around the NBA, the second thought players on most courts are deadly shooters, the Net's put a team on the floor where a guy like Green and Harris would be our best shooters and they are not even secondary players.

It think Adams has actually made things harder for Zion this year. It really makes you think how prefect the Zion/KP combo would have been. KP would keep 5s at the 3 point line while Zion reeked havoc in the lane and defended the rim while Zion acted as your physical presence and KP’s body guard


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[KnicksorBust]

It think Adams has actually made things harder for Zion this year. It really makes you think how prefect the Zion/KP combo would have been. KP would keep 5s at the 3 point line while Zion reeked havoc in the lane and defended the rim while Zion acted as your physical presence and KP’s body guard


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[ewing]

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Lol


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[YoungStuna]

So I'm assuming (by you putting RJ on the bench) that if you had to pick you would rather keep Randle long-term over RJ?

It’s really about probabilities. What is the likelihood that RJ ever does what Randle is doing right now?

I understand that RJ is 20, but Randle just turned 26. With Randle’s work ethic, there’s no reason to believe he can’t be a great piece for us long term. I would package RJ and Obi for another young star like Beal. Mitch, Randle, Beal, and Quickley could be a nice core to build around. At least we would be an option for someone like Kawhi coming here.

Mitch
Randle
Kahwi
Beal
Quickley

[YoungStuna]

Off-Topic. Reported to mods. Pls ban user.

Lmaooo

[KnicksorBust]

It’s really about probabilities. What is the likelihood that RJ ever does what Randle is doing right now?

I understand that RJ is 20, but Randle just turned 26. With Randle’s work ethic, there’s no reason to believe he can’t be a great piece for us long term. I would package RJ and Obi for another young star like Beal. Mitch, Randle, Beal, and Quickley could be a nice core to build around. At least we would be an option for someone like Kawhi coming here.

Mitch
Randle
Kahwi
Beal
Quickley

Ugh well sure of course I like that lineup. No fair using Beal and Kawhi Leonard to prove that Randle is better long-term option than Barrett!

Lmaooo

Now he knows I was bluffing! Damnit YS!

[YoungStuna]

Ugh well sure of course I like that lineup. No fair using Beal and Kawhi Leonard to prove that Randle is better long-term option than Barrett!



Now he knows I was bluffing! Damnit YS!

RJ beasting today though

[PewPew]

If we just could make one player out of frank, dsj and RJ.

[flimflamman]

If we just could make one player out of frank, dsj and RJ.

Years ago, the Knicks pre Ewing had three centers on their roster, Ronny Cavanaugh, Eddie Lee Wilkins, and Ken Bannister. The reporter of the Daily News or NY Post, don’t recall which, wrote in an article that if the Knicks could combine the strengths of each into one Center they could have one great center “ Ronny Lee Bannister. Well if we could only combine the size
and defensive of Frank, with the driving athleticism of DJ and driving skill of Payton We could have Frank Payton Jr. it just doesn’t work like that.

[KnicksorBust]

It’s really about probabilities. What is the likelihood that RJ ever does what Randle is doing right now?

I understand that RJ is 20, but Randle just turned 26. With Randle’s work ethic, there’s no reason to believe he can’t be a great piece for us long term. I would package RJ and Obi for another young star like Beal. Mitch, Randle, Beal, and Quickley could be a nice core to build around. At least we would be an option for someone like Kawhi coming here.

Mitch
Randle
Kahwi
Beal
Quickley

Years ago, the Knicks pre Ewing had three centers on their roster, Ronny Cavanaugh, Eddie Lee Wilkins, and Ken Bannister. The reporter of the Daily News or NY Post, don’t recall which, wrote in an article that if the Knicks could combine the strengths of each into one Center they could have one great center “ Ronny Lee Bannister. Well if we could only combine the size
and defensive of Frank, with the driving athleticism of DJ and driving skill of Payton We could have Frank Payton Jr. it just doesn’t work like that.

You had to combine the best skills of 3 players named Frank Payton Jr. and he still can't shoot for ****.