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    Lions Hire Brad Holmes

    We got someone. Thoughts???

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAthletic.com
    The Lions are finalizing a deal with Los Angeles Rams' director of college scouting Brad Holmes to make him Detroit's new general manager, according to multiple reports.

    Detroit finished the season 5-11 and last in the NFC North. Former GM Bob Quinn was fired along with coach Matt Patricia in November.

    Holmes, 41, will become the third current Black general manager in the league, joining Miami's Chris Grier and Cleveland's Andrew Berry. Holmes joined the then-St. Louis Rams in 2003 and worked his way up to his current position.

    The Rams will become the first team to receive a third-round compensatory draft pick each of the next two years as part of the NFL's new hiring initiatives passed in November.

    The Lions, who have yet to hire a coach, will have the No. 7 pick in the upcoming draft.

    Who is Holmes?
    Chris Burke, Lions beat writer: A bit of a wild-card candidate in this process, the 41-year-old Holmes has spent his entire NFL career dating back to 2003 with the Rams. He climbed the ladder into the director of college scouting role in 2013, and from there helped spearhead L.A.'s draft selection of Aaron Donald in 2014. He's a highly respected name within draft circles. He also — as of his hiring —becomes the third Black general manager currently in the NFL.

    What are his top priorities?
    Burke: Holmes helped direct the Rams' scouting process from his home base in Atlanta, so that background likely will be the jumping-off point for his Detroit tenure. He told the Rams' team website after the 2019 draft that the "pillars" of what he wants in a football player are that they be "smart ... instinctive ... and explosive." He'll arrive in Detroit holding just five 2021 draft selections, but with the No. 7 overall pick.

    He will face huge decisions beyond the draft, too, including how to handle Matthew Stafford's future and a difficult forthcoming cap situation. Given his lack of experience on the NFL personnel side, it'll be interesting to see whom he selects to work in close quarters with him in the front office.

    What's next for the Lions?
    Burke: Well, they still need a coach. To this point, they've run their GM and coaching searching separately, but Holmes' addition could shift the focus to Rams defensive coordinator Brandon Staley. He is not one of the seven coaches Detroit either has interviewed or is scheduled to interview, but he has a connection to Holmes.

    When Quinn, the Lions' prior GM, arrived, he completely overhauled the organization's draft and scouting processes. While Holmes may be able to keep some of Quinn's methods — and hires — in place, this could border on a near top-to-bottom reset. There's a lot of work to be done, with free agency and the draft already on the horizon.


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    More commentary from ESPN.

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Rothstein, ESPN Staff Writer
    ALLEN PARK, Mich. – It lasted almost seven weeks. They held more than a dozen interviews with more chatting over computers than anyone would likely want.

    When Sheila Ford Hamp fired general manager Bob Quinn on Nov. 28, she promised the Lions would do “an extremely thorough and comprehensive search,” for the team’s new front office head. In selecting Brad Holmes, the Los Angeles Rams’ director of college scouting, Detroit finished a search that can be described as both exhaustive and thorough.

    And that’s something that can be at least a signal Detroit is trying to do things right this time.

    Anyone who says they know whether Holmes will work out as Detroit’s general manager is guessing at best. It’s just the reality of any new hire in any new situation, especially someone who has not been a general manager before.

    That’s not a knock on Holmes, who has done a fantastic job with helping to build the Rams through the draft even without the benefit of first-round picks the past four years, last selecting Jared Goff at No. 1 overall in 2016.

    But take this from how the Lions conducted their search: It was a consistent process looking many places, with 12 candidates interviewed from a variety of backgrounds. The Lions spoke to three candidates internally. They interviewed former general managers in Thomas Dimitroff, Rick Smith, Scott Pioli and Jeff Ireland. They met with the hot name from television, Louis Riddick, and other front office staffers from multiple organizations and viewpoints.

    They said they would be exhaustive in their hunt for someone to finally bring a winner to Detroit after 60-plus years of inconsistency. In Holmes, they believe they’ve found that person.

    Detroit, unlike in its search when the club hired Quinn, came in with a specific set of value traits they were looking for in their new football leadership. They wanted someone who could work on bringing in an inclusive culture, someone who is open and willing to communicate and can be a leader.


    Lions team president Rod Wood, left, admits there were things he didn't understand about the GM position before hiring Bob Quinn, right. Leon Halip/Getty Images
    Holmes, based on his time with the Rams, has that. He was able to adapt and be flexible enough to rise in an organization through five different head coaches and four general managers. He’s managed scouts as the director of college scouting and has a deep background in evaluating players, deciding what makes them work best and if they’d be a fit in the culture Los Angeles was trying to build.

    Those are things he can bring to Detroit.

    Holmes, who will be Detroit’s second Black general manager, also was at the front of the Rams’ inclusion efforts. Rams COO Kevin Demoff said he was part of the club’s “leadership team on social justice and diversity issues,” and these are areas that matter to Hamp as well.

    Hamp was one of the first owners to say, in June, she would have no problem with her team signing quarterback Colin Kaepernick if her football staff felt he was a player they wanted. Soon after she took over as owner, she distributed ‘Stony the Road,’ a book by her friend, Dr. Henry Louis Gates Jr., about Reconstruction, White Supremacy and the rise of Jim Crow. Then she brought Gates Jr. in virtually to talk with the team about it.

    This entire process for the Lions has been different. They had a group of four sit down with candidates: Hamp, Wood, special assistant Chris Spielman and Mike Disner, the team’s cap specialist. They focused on the qualities they established they wanted instead of what people – or their organizations – had done in the past. They created an advisory committee, comprised of former Michigan State athletic director Mark Hollis, Fritz Pollard Alliance executive director Rod Graves and Hall of Fame running back Barry Sanders, to help make calls and with the vetting process.

    There were more voices involved. More opinions heard. This was something the Lions learned from when they hired Patricia, when it was Wood and Quinn traveling the country doing interviews. They also did not hire a search firm and did not have an official advisor from the NFL, like they did when they hired Quinn.

    When they interviewed candidates for the Quinn hiring, Detroit interviewed three people. They spoke with four times the number of candidates this time.

    “Trying to do it differently,” Wood said. “Trying to find the right people.”

    We’ll find out in three or four years if Holmes ends up being the right person. For now, for today, the Lions can at least know they did what they said they were going to do. They spoke to a plethora of people and came back with the guy they feel has the best shot to finally create a winner in Detroit.

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    There we go! Good solid hire. Young guy who can grow with the club. I’m impressed with the number of starters from the draft given that they didnt have a a first round pick for the last 4 years... well done Sheila
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    agreed. All things equal, I like it. We haven't had a good drafting FO in...gosh...in a long time.

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    Plus I read that someone said he was a Young Ozzie Newsome.



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    Quote Originally Posted by vader817 View Post
    Plus I read that someone said he was a Young Ozzie Newsome.
    well that's some positive news.

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    I like the hire now lets move on and get our coach.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garnotm View Post
    I like the hire now lets move on and get our coach.
    But who would you pair him with?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lionsfanfromsac View Post
    But who would you pair him with?
    Here is an article about 5 coaches who Holmes could hire https://www.si.com/nfl/lions/oneprid...mes-could-hire



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    I like the hire. We are also one of the few cities (I say this as I did no research lol) with 3 of the 4 teams having either a Black or Hispanic GM.

    I look forward to more competent player evaluations and a focus on more athleticism instead of rigid evaluation and unathletic (NFL quality mind you) talent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LionsFan..LOL View Post
    I like the hire. We are also one of the few cities (I say this as I did no research lol) with 3 of the 4 teams having either a Black or Hispanic GM.

    I look forward to more competent player evaluations and a focus on more athleticism instead of rigid evaluation and unathletic (NFL quality mind you) talent.
    same here



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    Here is an example of his talent evaluation

    The Rams have a ton of starters from their last few drafts
    Despite not having any first round picks since that 2016 selection of Goff, the Rams have built a roster full of depth and starters from deeper in the draft. Here’s a look at some the players who have started at least eight games in the 2020 season (or would’ve, if not for injury)

    2017:

    WR Cooper Kupp (third round)
    S John Johnson (third round)
    LB Samson Ebukam (fourth round)
    2018:

    OT Joseph Noteboom (third round)
    C Brian Allen (fourth round)
    LB Micah Kiser (fifth round)
    DT Sebastian Joseph (sixth round)
    2019:

    S Taylor Rapp (second round)
    RB Darrell Henderson (third round)
    OT David Edwards (fifth round)
    2020:

    RB Cam Akers (second round)
    S Jordan Fuller (sixth round)
    And that’s not including UDFAs or role players that don’t earn starting jobs. Note how many of those picks (six) are on defense. The Rams finished the 2020 season fourth in defensive DVOA and best in points allowed.



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    Quote Originally Posted by vader817 View Post
    Here is an example of his talent evaluation
    Good to know... i’m wondering now if we will trade out of the seven spot in favor of more pics to develop more depth via the middle rounds.
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