Nelson Agholor: Re-sign or Let Him Walk?

[bulldog2683]

For the right price. I think he earned something. What that is I don't know but he is only a year removed from being ran out of Philly so I am always careful about thinking a player is worth too much based off 1 year.

[Swift Game]

If he’s gonna be over 10 million per year, I’d rather spend another 5-6 million and get Allen Robinson. Better WR and way more consistent.


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If he is closer to 19 to 20 million I say No even to Robinson. Our issues were on defense. We need to get a Gilmore or Ramsey for that kind of money.

Nelson for 7.5 is probably fine. You got to pay Robinson almost triple..and he did not have triple the production. He was our best desp threat and Ruggs hopefully gets better next season.

Nelson would Have had 2 more TDs and 1,000 yards had they not called back like 2 TDs...
Cut Tyrell Williams and pay to get a defense together.



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[erickench]

Word is he's worth $7.5 million per. Less than what Williams would be getting if we keep him.

[KobeOwnSU]

We aren’t keeping Williams. I guarantee that. Between his cap number and no penalty to cut him plus Grudens past words on availability...he gone.


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For the right price. I think he earned something. What that is I don't know but he is only a year removed from being ran out of Philly so I am always careful about thinking a player is worth too much based off 1 year.

I wouldn't put too much stock into what happened in Philly. The drops were overblown. He has shown he can beat his man consistently. We need his speed. If Ruggs figures it out, we will have deadly speed on the outside with Ruggs and Agholor making this offense even more explosive

Raiders must do everything to retain him. 10M is a reasonable price. Anything lower would be a steal.

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We aren’t keeping Williams. I guarantee that. Between his cap number and no penalty to cut him plus Grudens past words on availability...he gone.


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Give Agholor his money

[Shred003]

I wouldn't put too much stock into what happened in Philly. The drops were overblown. He has shown he can beat his man consistently. We need his speed. If Ruggs figures it out, we will have deadly speed on the outside with Ruggs and Agholor making this offense even more explosive

Raiders must do everything to retain him. 10M is a reasonable price. Anything lower would be a steal.

$10M is too much, given the Raiders depth of weapons, running game and absolute NEED for defensive talent.

[BoKnowsRaiders]

$10M is too much, given the Raiders depth of weapons, running game and absolute NEED for defensive talent.

Agreed. If you’re willing to spend $10M, we should couple that with Williams savings and go get Allen Robinson.

But as mentioned previously, I’d target around $16M a year.

$20M a year, if we spend that, needs to be an impact player on D.

[Shred003]

Agreed. If you’re willing to spend $10M, we should couple that with Williams savings and go get Allen Robinson.

But as mentioned previously, I’d target around $16M a year.

$20M a year, if we spend that, needs to be an impact player on D.

I suspect Williams and Trent Brown get the axe, and the Raiders spend that money on defense.

I'm tempted to roll the dice on Ruggs - Edwards - Renfrow for 2021, spending the ~$40M the Raiders will have in cap space on defensive starters.

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$10M is too much, given the Raiders depth of weapons, running game and absolute NEED for defensive talent.

Thats going to be his market and he's worth it. With out him our receivers would have struggled yet again.

[Shred003]

Thats going to be his market and he's worth it. With out him our receivers would have struggled yet again.

Yet Henry Ruggs is an even scarier player. Can he do what Agholor did? He's under contract, essentially "free" compared to cap space.

In a perfect world, you let Agholor go and promote Ruggs. You take the money saved and spend it on defense.

In saying that, I'm terrified Ruggs will be a bust and the offense joins the defense in the doldrums.

[Megatron]

Agreed. If you’re willing to spend $10M, we should couple that with Williams savings and go get Allen Robinson.

But as mentioned previously, I’d target around $16M a year.

$20M a year, if we spend that, needs to be an impact player on D.

Robinson’s contract he negotiated before was 14 mil a year. He had 1250 yards. He is young, he will get close to 20 mil. Not worth it.

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Yet Henry Ruggs is an even scarier player. Can he do what Agholor did? He's under contract, essentially "free" compared to cap space.

In a perfect world, you let Agholor go and promote Ruggs. You take the money saved and spend it on defense.

In saying that, I'm terrified Ruggs will be a bust and the offense joins the defense in the doldrums.

I'm all for sending the money on defense. I'm just not completely sold on Ruggs. Take away Agholor last season. Our wide outs would have struggled greatly with out him

[KobeOwnSU]

To be fair though, Grudens offense uses the TE a lot more than others. So a true number 1 receiver isn’t a must. Plus, Waller is just as good if not better than having a number 1. I’d be good with signing a veteran or two and put them with Ruggs, Edwards, and Renfrow.


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[krsonekth]

I wasn't being obtuse. The Raiders have a #1 receiver in Darren Waller and a lot of talented complementary players around him.

MOVING ON: Agholor for $7.5M per season? I'm on board. Now, anything more than that and it's sketchy.

Ultimately, the Raiders drafted Henry Ruggs to be the "playmaker" WR. Agholor stole the show, but let's not overlook what Ruggs did, either: tons of athleticism, amazing contested catches and a few stunning routes. He's young and clearly needs work, but the talent is clearly there.

You can have Agholor or Leonard Williams. Who do you choose, for the fate of the franchise? I think you let Agholor go in that scenario.

Anything over $7.5 I probably pass unless it's real close to that number. To your point I would rather have ?Leonard Williams over Agholor if money allocations came down to those two options.

Unfortunately for Ruggs he had no offseason or preseason and Grudens playbook takes time to learn for WR's because he wants them to learn a lot of different plays and formations etc...

Hopefully this next season they get an offseason and preseason.