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  1. #286
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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    I can't even push or cheer for American policies, but that doesn't mean I will push some other foreign government policies. Plus I like democracy just not how it is run here. I have no beef with China wanting to be top dog. If any country knows the perils of being used by more powerful countries it is China. So I understand their drive to be top dog. That doesn't mean I will cheer them on.

    If I was to admire another country it would be similar to my own like Sweden with it socialist-democrat government. I just can't relate to China. The issues I have with their system are too much of a deal-breaker. Slavery is slavery. The denying of personal rights is just too big for me with my family history. If I condemn American slavery how would it look if I support or look up to a country that still has slavery? Got to stay strong in my core beliefs.
    I would never want to live in a communist country, I love the free market. Freedom is a real thing. I just support the way they maneuver.

    We sign 20 year deals with countries and they starve and stay suppressed, they sign 20 year deals and significantly help improve those countries. Their approach seems to be one that makes the world a better place. I would like to live in a better world.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    That is true. Australia is on the crap end of their displeasure as well. Making veil threats is their MO. Wasn't it India who troops had a hand to hand combat with Chinese troop around their border or some disputed land?
    Yes, they agreed to not give troops on the border firearms, then Chinese troops moved their base well inside Indian territory but denied having crossed the border, they actually said China has NEVER invaded another country.

    The problem is they know nobody is going to push back too hard over a little land.

    Don't talk to nasty about China, he's either being paid or is delusional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    I would never want to live in a communist country, I love the free market. Freedom is a real thing. I just support the way they maneuver.

    We sign 20 year deals with countries and they starve and stay suppressed, they sign 20 year deals and significantly help improve those countries. Their approach seems to be one that makes the world a better place. I would like to live in a better world.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    Yes, they agreed to not give troops on the border firearms, then Chinese troops moved their base well inside Indian territory but denied having crossed the border, they actually said China has NEVER invaded another country.

    The problem is they know nobody is going to push back too hard over a little land.

    Don't talk to nasty about China, he's either being paid or is delusional.
    Nasty is cool. A lot of young kids are getting into China and communism because of their dislike of our foreign policies. Their African clients seem to be very happy with them, but it is very early in that relationship. Just wait until they start making demands on how these clients should run their countries as they do to our sport and entrainment sectors. They don't like negative attitudes directed at them. I think they are overlooking these bad trends. Their immediate neighbor nations aren't too high on them with them claiming the seas around their countries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    I would never want to live in a communist country, I love the free market. Freedom is a real thing. I just support the way they maneuver.

    We sign 20 year deals with countries and they starve and stay suppressed, they sign 20 year deals and significantly help improve those countries. Their approach seems to be one that makes the world a better place. I would like to live in a better world.



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    The US is a lot less "Free" than you think. What has happened in the past 4 years makes it clear that Murcans especially should not be judging other types of government or society.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    Nasty is cool. A lot of young kids are getting into China and communism because of their dislike of our foreign policies.
    Neither cool nor a young kid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    Yes, they agreed to not give troops on the border firearms, then Chinese troops moved their base well inside Indian territory but denied having crossed the border, they actually said China has NEVER invaded another country.

    The problem is they know nobody is going to push back too hard over a little land.

    Don't talk to nasty about China, he's either being paid or is delusional.
    Again, china had a trade route which runs through disputed territory which india tried shutting down. Do your homework. They didnt invade anyone, they protected their trade route.

    Yes, they stepped in knowing India can't fight back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    My friend, I am not judging you but your view that all.
    I don't feel judged, but you are saying you are judging my view of preferring mutually beneficial foreign relations over oppressive ones?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    Nasty is cool. A lot of young kids are getting into China and communism because of their dislike of our foreign policies. Their African clients seem to be very happy with them, but it is very early in that relationship. Just wait until they start making demands on how these clients should run their countries as they do to our sport and entrainment sectors. They don't like negative attitudes directed at them. I think they are overlooking these bad trends. Their immediate neighbor nations aren't too high on them with them claiming the seas around their countries.
    I'm not into communism, I'm into creating mutually beneficial relationships, this ensures long term stability.

    China doesnt tell countries how to run their country. They just do straight business. Whoever is in charge, they try to strike a deal with them. This is one of the best aspects of their foreign relations. We sit here and waste money overthrowing governments so that huge oil companies can save 20% on their oil. It's a waste of money. It's an unstable situation being created. I oppose this.

    In America if I am trying to make a deal with a supplier for a part of a product I am manufacturing, either we negotiate a deal we both like or we dont. I'm not allowed to go threaten his family and kill his cousin so that he can sign the deal at the price I want. That's illegal. So why is it normal policy in our foreign relations?

    I oppose it. I'm not concerned with the identity, I dont care of its america, china, Sweden, Brazil, etc, I just care about the action. I support non oppressive foreign policy. If America was leading the way in this then I would be supporting america. But we generally dont move like this. China generally does.



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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    The US is a lot less "Free" than you think. What has happened in the past 4 years makes it clear that Murcans especially should not be judging other types of government or society.
    True, but in comparison to china we still are very much more free. Over here if I want to.sell.fruit from.a fruit stand I can do that, if I want to try and develop an app I can do that, if I want to sell steaks to steakhouses I can do that. I can do whatever the ****.i want. China is a little different.

    I do recognize this, I am happy not living in a communist country.



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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Again, china had a trade route which runs through disputed territory which india tried shutting down. Do your homework. They didnt invade anyone, they protected their trade route.

    Yes, they stepped in knowing India can't fight back.

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    The trade route through an Indian resort town? You are blinded by your bizarre love of china or your hatred of India. I guess it makes sense since Pakistan and China are buddies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    The trade route through an Indian resort town? You are blinded by your bizarre love of china or your hatred of India. I guess it makes sense since Pakistan and China are buddies.
    Whatever trade route they built years ago, if it was built through a town then clearly something was agreed upon for them not to have an issue up until this year.

    What hatred for india? Wheres that even coming from?

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    ok, so a question here....if Angus King is an Independent, why is he counted as a Democrat as far as determining the majority party? Because he caucuses as a Democrat?
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    ok, so a question here....if Angus King is an Independent, why is he counted as a Democrat as far as determining the majority party? Because he caucuses as a Democrat?
    You got it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    You got it.
    doesn't that feel a little...cheap? I mean he LEFT the Democrat party
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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