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  1. #241
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    1 - I'm not sure congress would pass a law making sampling studies force re-districting automatically, but that's the best solution I've seen. It works but it takes multiple election cycles to get there.
    2 - I think we should spend MORE per student the less money their neighborhood has.
    3 - Good luck. I think there should be a central internet accessible system that allows votes to be cast whenever and however many times you want (only the last one counts), have built in auditing, and use ranked choice voting. I also like the idea of having city/county elections be done by lottery rather than voting.

    Outside the local elections done via lottery I agree with all this. These would be good ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    And just look how they came out.
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    In addition to draconian new liberty-killing laws aimed at "extremism" domestically we are going to get war, war, and then some more war. If any leftist ever thought otherwise they need only look at who Biden has appointed to his cabinet - particularly DNI, State, etc. It's a bunch of some of the most bloodthristy neocon retreads from past administrations.

    For one, we are going back into Syria - likely in full force (boots on the ground). It could get very bloody there, and there will likely be Americans killed either here or abroad that will be blamed on Iran/Syria.

    For another, there will be all sorts of chaos (coups, assassinations, etc.) around the whole Middle East. Turkey has been irritating everyone lately and I'm convinced the coup attempt a few years ago was not a false flag by Erdogan himself (as American corporate media alleges) but was US-backed. So maybe we'll go for him again. That would be a cataclysmic disaster for the region, which means it's probably at the forefront of the sociopaths running our foreign policy establishment.

    Ukraine will probably get hot again, and Belarus of course. Boxing in Russia in preparation for Putin transferring power in the next 10 years is a priority. If you doubt that you haven't listened to the fake news legacy press for the last 4 years.

    I think we will lose our soft power to chip away at the EU. This is more shooting from the hip, I don't really have anything to point to beyond a few stray comments here and there, but based upon recent events it would seem to make sense. A divided Europe has always been a priority for whoever is the current empire - whether France, or British, or now America. I would hedge a bit here only because the EU appears to be fracturing internally already.

    As for China I think we'll remain in a holding pattern. It's clear some want direct confrontation, while others prefer a containment strategy. Relations will deteriorate and that is unavoidable but I don't think either China or America really wants confrontation. More likely China will fund/arm whoever we happen to be screwing with elsewhere on the globe as a proxy fight. The only possible reason I think they wouldn't do that is that I don't believe China is terribly interested becoming the world empire. They would rather financialize America's client nations as we continue to decline economically.

    In other words I'd say buckle up. Obama killed the US Empire and Trump drove a stake through its heart. The people who tell Biden/Kamala what to do are going to have a free hand to try to resuscitate its corpse. It could get messy, and given the lack of legitimacy domestically that the US regime currently enjoys they are likely to do something reckless in the hopes of rallying the troops. Don't let your sons or daughters enlist anytime soon would be my advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flea View Post
    In addition to draconian new liberty-killing laws aimed at "extremism" domestically we are going to get war, war, and then some more war. If any leftist ever thought otherwise they need only look at who Biden has appointed to his cabinet - particularly DNI, State, etc. It's a bunch of some of the most bloodthristy neocon retreads from past administrations.

    For one, we are going back into Syria - likely in full force (boots on the ground). It could get very bloody there, and there will likely be Americans killed either here or abroad that will be blamed on Iran/Syria.

    For another, there will be all sorts of chaos (coups, assassinations, etc.) around the whole Middle East. Turkey has been irritating everyone lately and I'm convinced the coup attempt a few years ago was not a false flag by Erdogan himself (as American corporate media alleges) but was US-backed. So maybe we'll go for him again. That would be a cataclysmic disaster for the region, which means it's probably at the forefront of the sociopaths running our foreign policy establishment.

    Ukraine will probably get hot again, and Belarus of course. Boxing in Russia in preparation for Putin transferring power in the next 10 years is a priority. If you doubt that you haven't listened to the fake news legacy press for the last 4 years.

    I think we will lose our soft power to chip away at the EU. This is more shooting from the hip, I don't really have anything to point to beyond a few stray comments here and there, but based upon recent events it would seem to make sense. A divided Europe has always been a priority for whoever is the current empire - whether France, or British, or now America. I would hedge a bit here only because the EU appears to be fracturing internally already.

    As for China I think we'll remain in a holding pattern. It's clear some want direct confrontation, while others prefer a containment strategy. Relations will deteriorate and that is unavoidable but I don't think either China or America really wants confrontation. More likely China will fund/arm whoever we happen to be screwing with elsewhere on the globe as a proxy fight. The only possible reason I think they wouldn't do that is that I don't believe China is terribly interested becoming the world empire. They would rather financialize America's client nations as we continue to decline economically.

    In other words I'd say buckle up. Obama killed the US Empire and Trump drove a stake through its heart. The people who tell Biden/Kamala what to do are going to have a free hand to try to resuscitate its corpse. It could get messy, and given the lack of legitimacy domestically that the US regime currently enjoys they are likely to do something reckless in the hopes of rallying the troops. Don't let your sons or daughters enlist anytime soon would be my advice.
    I think China will cool down when they get everything they want. Biden's choices are largely pro-china, so I don't expect anything confrontational at all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    I think China will cool down when they get everything they want. Biden's choices are largely pro-china, so I don't expect anything confrontational at all
    It's certainly true that Biden the man was China-friendly his whole career, to say the least. But that's true for all of the crooks we call politicians in this country. But it's a different game now. China will be calling the shots in a lot of respects. If the dollar loses its reserve currency status (as many of the Davos set are predicting) then it's likely China will be calling all the shots unless we go to war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird of Prey View Post
    Not when the Dems change the law they won't. Also, when Biden and the socialists allow present illegals to become legal citizens they will be eligible for much more free stuff in return for the right to vote. That will save the Dems a lot of work and money in falsifying ballots, though. Who knew?
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    Quote Originally Posted by flea View Post
    In addition to draconian new liberty-killing laws aimed at "extremism" domestically we are going to get war, war, and then some more war. If any leftist ever thought otherwise they need only look at who Biden has appointed to his cabinet - particularly DNI, State, etc. It's a bunch of some of the most bloodthristy neocon retreads from past administrations.

    For one, we are going back into Syria - likely in full force (boots on the ground). It could get very bloody there, and there will likely be Americans killed either here or abroad that will be blamed on Iran/Syria.

    For another, there will be all sorts of chaos (coups, assassinations, etc.) around the whole Middle East. Turkey has been irritating everyone lately and I'm convinced the coup attempt a few years ago was not a false flag by Erdogan himself (as American corporate media alleges) but was US-backed. So maybe we'll go for him again. That would be a cataclysmic disaster for the region, which means it's probably at the forefront of the sociopaths running our foreign policy establishment.

    Ukraine will probably get hot again, and Belarus of course. Boxing in Russia in preparation for Putin transferring power in the next 10 years is a priority. If you doubt that you haven't listened to the fake news legacy press for the last 4 years.

    I think we will lose our soft power to chip away at the EU. This is more shooting from the hip, I don't really have anything to point to beyond a few stray comments here and there, but based upon recent events it would seem to make sense. A divided Europe has always been a priority for whoever is the current empire - whether France, or British, or now America. I would hedge a bit here only because the EU appears to be fracturing internally already.

    As for China I think we'll remain in a holding pattern. It's clear some want direct confrontation, while others prefer a containment strategy. Relations will deteriorate and that is unavoidable but I don't think either China or America really wants confrontation. More likely China will fund/arm whoever we happen to be screwing with elsewhere on the globe as a proxy fight. The only possible reason I think they wouldn't do that is that I don't believe China is terribly interested becoming the world empire. They would rather financialize America's client nations as we continue to decline economically.

    In other words I'd say buckle up. Obama killed the US Empire and Trump drove a stake through its heart. The people who tell Biden/Kamala what to do are going to have a free hand to try to resuscitate its corpse. It could get messy, and given the lack of legitimacy domestically that the US regime currently enjoys they are likely to do something reckless in the hopes of rallying the troops. Don't let your sons or daughters enlist anytime soon would be my advice.
    The fact that you could be right and neoliberalism is somehow a refreshing change says a lot about how both parties likely appreciate how drastically Trump has lowered the bar. Kills off the 99% and tea party populist movements.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bird of Prey View Post
    Not when the Dems change the law they won't. Also, when Biden and the socialists allow present illegals to become legal citizens they will be eligible for much more free stuff in return for the right to vote. That will save the Dems a lot of work and money in falsifying ballots, though. Who knew?
    So making all these illegals legal is actually a cost cutting move by the dems. They're always thinking about the country those dems.

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    The US Empire dying (globally) sounds good to me tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    The US Empire dying (globally) sounds good to me tbh.
    Good to know you're enjoying the decline. What a loser.

    We're going to go from a country of "haves" and "have nots but could haves" to a country of "haves" and "will never haves." Sounds just ducky.

    Some of you have no idea as to what you will be missing. I'm glad I was around for most of the glory years. It was nice having a clear and simple understanding as to what bathroom I was supposed to use.

    Guess the good old days are gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    The US Empire dying (globally) sounds good to me tbh.
    It would be great for the world. Death to american imperialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Good to know you're enjoying the decline. What a loser.

    We're going to go from a country of "haves" and "have nots but could haves" to a country of "haves" and "will never haves." Sounds just ducky.

    Some of you have no idea as to what you will be missing. I'm glad I was around for most of the glory years. It was nice having a clear and simple understanding as to what bathroom I was supposed to use.

    Guess the good old days are gone.
    We'd be a country of "haves" a hell of a lot more if we weren't spending all our money fighting pointless wars. But hey, that's just me! If you want to argue on behalf of American imperialism go for it! All those worthwhile wars we've fought...just to make the world less stable. It's definitely really working out. Let's keep on keeping on!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Good to know you're enjoying the decline. What a loser.

    We're going to go from a country of "haves" and "have nots but could haves" to a country of "haves" and "will never haves." Sounds just ducky.

    Some of you have no idea as to what you will be missing. I'm glad I was around for most of the glory years. It was nice having a clear and simple understanding as to what bathroom I was supposed to use.

    Guess the good old days are gone.
    Completely out of touch guy says what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    We'd be a country of "haves" a hell of a lot more if we weren't spending all our money fighting pointless wars. But hey, that's just me! If you want to argue on behalf of American imperialism go for it! All those worthwhile wars we've fought...just to make the world less stable. It's definitely really working out. Let's keep on keeping on!
    American "imperialism" as you like to put it (I prefer influence) creates stability on the planet…something no one else is willing to pay for.

    Why are we in the Persian Gulf……we don't need the oil. We're energy self sufficient (at least until tomorrow). We're there to keep the oil flowing and the world's economy stable…it is to everyone's advantage and we're the only that can do it or are willing ti do it. Try to think it thru a little.

    "Pointless wars"……that go on throughout history and nothing will ever stop that. However, there hasn't been a major war in over 70 years. Think that one thru as we become weaker and the Chinese become stronger. Without the US……Korea would be one communist country, there would be no Taiwan, Israel would cease to exist, Russia would extend to the English Channel.

    And what have we gotten out of it……far less than we have put into it (and Trump was trying to change that).

    Do you ever think any oif tghis stuff thru or just spit out what the professors tell you???? You really have no clue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    American "imperialism" as you like to put it (I prefer influence) creates stability on the planet…something no one else is willing to pay for.

    Why are we in the Persian Gulf……we don't need the oil. We're energy self sufficient (at least until tomorrow). We're there to keep the oil flowing and the world's economy stable…it is to everyone's advantage and we're the only that can do it or are willing ti do it. Try to think it thru a little.

    "Pointless wars"……that go on throughout history and nothing will ever stop that. However, there hasn't been a major war in over 70 years. Think that one thru as we become weaker and the Chinese become stronger. Without the US……Korea would be one communist country, there would be no Taiwan, Israel would cease to exist, Russia would extend to the English Channel.

    And what have we gotten out of it……far less than we have put into it (and Trump was trying to change that).

    Do you ever think any oif tghis stuff thru or just spit out what the professors tell you???? You really have no clue.
    I can't figure out if this is funny or sad.

    It's a little combination of.both.

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