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  1. #841
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbacknick View Post
    Yeah, but you have admit we were wetting our panties when we first signed them. No wonder why they became available in the first place.
    Not everyone.
    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    Carr may very well be the worst starting QB in Raiders history. Carr is like a root canal that takes 8 hrs. The Raiders have stuck with this bum going on 7 seasons! All they have to show for it is excuses. I hope Mariorta runs him out of training camp.
    Quote Originally Posted by Proximo View Post
    Sounds as though Mayock is waxing the Pinto and installing fake leather seat covers and chrome hubcaps before posting it on Craigslist.

  2. #842
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    Quote Originally Posted by dbacknick View Post
    Yeah, but you have admit we were wetting our panties when we first signed them. No wonder why they became available in the first place.
    Both Joyner and Littleton were good players the Rams couldnít afford to keep. Both *SHOULD* play better than they have. Itís not their fault Guenther is useless.

    Is that list ugly? Sure. But Gruden and Mayock have NAILED the draft with their offensive skill players.

  3. #843
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    One thing to consider. While we are all talking about signing players. Who gets franchised. Hereís my list of definates and possibles:
    Definates:
    Moton(good young tackle will get the tag)
    WR Godwin
    WR Allen Robinson
    WR golladay
    S Simmons
    S Johnson
    S Maye

    Very possible:
    DT Leonard Williams(prime person to get tagged)
    DE Lawson(had more pressures than Mack or Cam Jordan) underrated
    OLB Dupree

    TE Henry will probably get a long term deal done
    OG Thuney will also probably get a long term deal

  4. #844
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    Quote Originally Posted by a60rdie View Post
    Josh Dubow
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    #Raiders to get $15+ million FA deals since Jon Gruden returned. Which was best?:
    Trent Brown, 4 years, $66M
    Tyrell Williams, 4-$44.3M
    LaMarcus Joyner, 4-$42M
    Cory Littleton, 3-$32.25M
    Carl Nassib, 3-$25.25M
    Nick Kwiatkoski, 3-$21M
    Tahir Whitehead, 3-$19M
    Marcus Mariota, 2-$17.6M

    Ugly...
    Nick K would be the only one i would say was worth it to this point. Brown maybe his first year... We shall see if most of these disappointments on the defense side was just PG

  5. #845
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shred003 View Post
    Both Joyner and Littleton were good players the Rams couldnít afford to keep. Both *SHOULD* play better than they have. Itís not their fault Guenther is useless.

    Is that list ugly? Sure. But Gruden and Mayock have NAILED the draft with their offensive skill players.
    NAILED? Might be a stretch, but they have no doubt definitely done better on that side of the ball. If Ruggs & Edwards take a good step forward this coming season your statement gets much more credible.

  6. #846
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    Quote Originally Posted by a60rdie View Post
    NAILED? Might be a stretch, but they have no doubt definitely done better on that side of the ball. If Ruggs & Edwards take a good step forward this coming season your statement gets much more credible.
    I donít think itís a coincidence that they offensive players theyíve drafted have performed much better than the defensive ones. The coaching and schemes are way better on the offensive side of the ball.


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  7. #847
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnSU View Post
    I donít think itís a coincidence that they offensive players theyíve drafted have performed much better than the defensive ones. The coaching and schemes are way better on the offensive side of the ball.


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    It gets harder and harder to keep hope alive with this franchise, but maybe Bradley will finally get us out of the gutter defensively. We had a glimmer with Pagano, but that was very short lived. Just a tease really...

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    Starting defensive line
    LDE Melvin Ingram 2yr/14 mill
    LDT David Irving
    RDT Ndamukong Suh 1yr/13 mill
    RDE Maxx Crosby

    2nd defensive linelll
    LDE Azeez Ojulari
    LDT Maurice Hurst
    RDT Alim Mcneill
    RDE Clelin Ferrell

    3rd defensive line
    LDE Takk Mckinley
    LDT Kawann Short 1 yr/3 mill
    RDT Niles Scott
    RDE Malcom Koonce

    We gotta have a good defensive line going into this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiderizer View Post
    Starting defensive line
    LDE Melvin Ingram 2yr/14 mill
    LDT David Irving
    RDT Ndamukong Suh 1yr/13 mill
    RDE Maxx Crosby

    2nd defensive linelll
    LDE Azeez Ojulari
    LDT Maurice Hurst
    RDT Alim Mcneill
    RDE Clelin Ferrell

    3rd defensive line
    LDE Takk Mckinley
    LDT Kawann Short 1 yr/3 mill
    RDT Niles Scott
    RDE Malcom Koonce

    We gotta have a good defensive line going into this season.
    Do teams generally keep 12 dlinemen? Thatís a lot of dudes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJ4ptplay View Post
    Do teams generally keep 12 dlinemen? Thatís a lot of dudes.
    I guess the 3rd line would be practice squad lol.

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    How would the Raiders even be able to pay Russel Wilson should he be traded? In light of his recent comments my opinion of him has lowered but in reality land his trade to us is just hogwash....
    The Second protects the First, always has and always will...

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    Quote Originally Posted by corralski View Post
    How would the Raiders even be able to pay Russel Wilson should he be traded? In light of his recent comments my opinion of him has lowered but in reality land his trade to us is just hogwash....
    What?


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    Quote Originally Posted by raiderizer View Post
    Starting defensive line
    LDE Melvin Ingram 2yr/14 mill
    LDT David Irving
    RDT Ndamukong Suh 1yr/13 mill
    RDE Maxx Crosby

    2nd defensive linelll
    LDE Azeez Ojulari
    LDT Maurice Hurst
    RDT Alim Mcneill
    RDE Clelin Ferrell

    3rd defensive line
    LDE Takk Mckinley
    LDT Kawann Short 1 yr/3 mill
    RDT Niles Scott
    RDE Malcom Koonce

    We gotta have a good defensive line going into this season.
    Suh wants to stay on the Bucs and will probably give them a favorable deal.

    I can't see them cutting Nassib with all the dead money. He isn't going anywhere.

    I can see us signing Ingram and I hope he will actually contribute. Bradley knows how to use him. Hopefully he's healthy and can stay there.

    I'd look at bringing Autry and Harris back. Shouldn't be too expensive, but have regularly demonstrated they can play well.

    2 DL coaches have not gotten anything resembling solid play out of Key. I'm curious if Bradley sees something he can work with or it's time to cut bait.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raiderizer View Post
    Starting defensive line
    LDE Melvin Ingram 2yr/14 mill
    LDT David Irving
    RDT Ndamukong Suh 1yr/13 mill
    RDE Maxx Crosby

    2nd defensive linelll
    LDE Azeez Ojulari
    LDT Maurice Hurst
    RDT Alim Mcneill
    RDE Clelin Ferrell

    3rd defensive line
    LDE Takk Mckinley
    LDT Kawann Short 1 yr/3 mill
    RDT Niles Scott
    RDE Malcom Koonce

    We gotta have a good defensive line going into this season.
    I could see is going:
    Starters
    Lde Hendrickson
    Dt Irving
    Dt Barmore
    De Crosby

    2nd
    Lde Takk
    Dt Hurst
    Dt Bobby Brown III
    Rde Ferrell

  15. #855
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    this makes a humongous difference in Russel Wilson's potential move... his cap hit is not bad at all. I suppose the Seahawks would be absorbing some of his cap hit as well...


    Field Yates
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    If Russell Wilson were traded, hereís what a new team would owe him:

    2021: $19M base salary, $19M cap charge
    2022: $19M base salary, $5M roster bonus, $24M cap charge
    2023: $22M base salary, $5M roster bonus, $27M cap charge

    Would be arguably the best veteran value in the NFL.
    12:55 PM ∑ Feb 25, 2021

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