Name a player you think is DONE

[R. Johnson#3]

Cool. I disagree with that list. Most people would, too, because all-time lists are subjective. I would have him higher than at least 8-9 of those guys and arguably higher than 11-12. I could give you great justification for why that includes a million different stats, accolades and pieces of context and you'd come back with: "Lulz! Harden's fat! Look at his AST/TO ratio! He's a choker!"

Since we know where that debate is headed, let's just leave it at that, huh? We agree to disagree, and let's stick to the topic at hand.

I know you would. Your Harden bias is just as high as my DeRozan bias was until he left. The veil will be lifted from your eyes once he's traded.

[mightybosstone]

I know you would. Your Harden bias is just as high as my DeRozan bias was until he left. The veil will be lifted from your eyes once he's traded.

Yeah, except Harden doesn't suck ballz like DeRozan.

[KnicksorBust]

Cool. I disagree with that list. Most people would, too, because all-time lists are subjective. I would have him higher than at least 8-9 of those guys and arguably higher than 11-12. I could give you great justification for why that includes a million different stats, accolades and pieces of context and you'd come back with: "Lulz! Harden's fat! Look at his AST/TO ratio! He's a choker!"

Since we know where that debate is headed, let's just leave it at that, huh? We agree to disagree, and let's stick to the topic at hand.

Are you being more level headed in your old age? I hope not.

[R. Johnson#3]

Yeah, except Harden doesn't suck ballz like DeRozan.

Like I said, the veil will be lifted once he's gone. You'll probably be better off with John Wall.

[Vee-Rex]

Are you being more level headed in your old age? I hope not.

He's the most level-headed poster on PSD when he's not talking about the Rockets.

[mightybosstone]

Are you being more level headed in your old age? I hope not.

I like to think so. A certain Canadian troll seems hell bent on pushing my buttons, but aside from that, I think I've mellowed out a lot. I don't think I've had an infraction in 8 years, and it's probably been about that long since I rage quite a PSD game.

Like I said, the veil will be lifted once he's gone. You'll probably be better off with John Wall.

I highly, highly doubt that.

He's the most level-headed poster on PSD when he's not talking about the Rockets.

Yeah, that's fair. Somebody has to counter all the Harden and Rockets hate on this forum, though. I get that he's probably the most hated athlete in the sport, and a lot of that hate is warranted. But the things I see people say about the guy on this forum show just how underappreciated he is in his time. If nothing else, he's at least the Karl Malone/David Robinson of his era. Is it too much to ask for people to acknowledge that?

[R. Johnson#3]

I like to think so. A certain Canadian troll seems hell bent on pushing my buttons, but aside from that, I think I've mellowed out a lot. I don't think I've had an infraction in 8 years, and it's probably been about that long since I rage quite a PSD game.

I highly, highly doubt that.

Yeah, that's fair. Somebody has to counter all the Harden and Rockets hate on this forum, though. I get that he's probably the most hated athlete in the sport, and a lot of that hate is warranted. But the things I see people say about the guy on this forum show just how underappreciated he is in his time. If nothing else, he's at least the Karl Malone/David Robinson of his era. Is it too much to ask for people to acknowledge that?

Hell bent? Nah, you just make it enjoyable. You even brought up your profession in a debate about basketball lol.

I'll get back on topic though. A player that's finished is Eric Gordon.

[smith&wesson]

In no order

MJ
KAJ
Bird
Magic
Dream
Shaq
Kobe
Wilt
Timmy
Dirk
LeBron
Wade
GP
Steph
Stockton
Malone
Chuck
Clyde
AI
KG
Zeke
Truth
Pippen
Admiral
Reggie
Kemp
Nash
Kidd

28 players I'd put before Harden.There's probably more too.

Shawn Kemp though? He had a short prime. Id say AI is a good debate the rest I can aree with.

[smith&wesson]

Iggy is cooked well done. Gasol was done last year, dude will brick an open lay up.

[More-Than-Most]

In no order

MJ
KAJ
Bird
Magic
Dream
Shaq
Kobe
Wilt
Timmy
Dirk
LeBron
Wade
GP
Steph
Stockton
Malone
Chuck
Clyde
AI
KG
Zeke
Truth
Pippen
Admiral
Reggie
Kemp
Nash
Kidd

28 players I'd put before Harden. There's probably more too.

He might have bias but your harden hate is also similar.... by the time harden is done he will be ahead of guys like reggie/AI/Kidd/Nash etc

in fact id take prime harden over prime nash/reggie. When did everyone start hating harden so much that he has actually become underrated lol

[R. Johnson#3]

He might have bias but your harden hate is also similar.... by the time harden is done he will be ahead of guys like reggie/AI/Kidd/Nash etc

in fact id take prime harden over prime nash/reggie. When did everyone start hating harden so much that he has actually become underrated lol

Nash and Reggie are two of the most efficient guards to ever play the game.

[R. Johnson#3]

Shawn Kemp though? He had a short prime. Id say AI is a good debate the rest I can aree with.

He did have a short prime but he intimidated basically everyone on both ends of the floor.

[More-Than-Most]

Nash and Reggie are two of the most efficient guards to ever play the game.

so efficiency matters to you when you have a bias against someone? simmons is hella efficient yet you only care about ppg in that argument....

that moment when harden puts up 34/8/7 on 44/36/87 pct shooting and is better.... i guess reggie is better than kobe too? Do you have reggie over iverson?

lets look at TS.... more efficient because you value shooting pct yet harden and reggie have basically the same TS for their careers with harden having the highest TS of the 2 in a season

[More-Than-Most]

oh also harden destroys them in vorp/per/ws and just about every other advanced stat to go along with the scoring/assists/rebounds etc


but yo because we hate harden its reggie--->harden... gtfo

[dhopisthename]

Yeah kinda sucks to be paying that dude over 30mill this season. Oof. But it is what it is. I agree that he's probably in the bottom 10 as far as starting PGs and I really don't like having a 3 guard rotation of Conley, Mitchell, Clarkson. Way too small and not enough D IMO.

I don't think he is that bad, but if he is I hope the Jazz use his salary as a cap dump for someone and not just hold onto him because of his name, prestige and what we paid for him. For instance if he does suck that bad maybe add a first for a harrison barnes or a otto porter. I actually saw a ton of names that were kinda interesting, but we have to see if he is done cause he wasn't bad the month before the bubble and in the bubble.