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  1. #451
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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    With the new system tanking doesn’t give you much more odds at a better pick. You could be dead last and still only have a 50% chance at a top 4 pick. You could be 4th last and have a 48% chance. It’s not much different.

    Also this year there is a play in tournament, and teams 9&10 can get them selves in the post season. We’re def not going to tank. 0 chance.

    But what we absolutely need to do is improve on our front court. We’re way to soft and rebounding will be a huge problem come post season time when the game slows down and becomes more physical. Our glaring hole up front will be that much more obvious.

    We don’t even need a star or anything. Just a quality big who can rebound and provide solid help D.
    Yeah I'm hoping Masai and Bobby can find a way to improve the front court. However, the good news is that they are getting better defensively.

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    “It’s about winning,” Stoudemire said. “You win, you’re going to get on national TV. Simple. In Phoenix, we won — Western Conference finals three, four years, playoffs every year. We won. If you don’t win, nobody really wants to see you.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by pebloemer View Post
    Candidate for MIP too.
    I think it is between him and Jerami Grant right now.

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    “It’s about winning,” Stoudemire said. “You win, you’re going to get on national TV. Simple. In Phoenix, we won — Western Conference finals three, four years, playoffs every year. We won. If you don’t win, nobody really wants to see you.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by aman_13 View Post
    I think it is between him and Jerami Grant right now.

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    Christian Wood is Most Improved and it is not even close in Houston

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tg11 View Post
    Christian Wood is Most Improved and it is not even close in Houston
    Don’t remind me. He would have been perfect on this roster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tg11 View Post
    Christian Wood is Most Improved and it is not even close in Houston
    Forgot about Wood.

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    “It’s about winning,” Stoudemire said. “You win, you’re going to get on national TV. Simple. In Phoenix, we won — Western Conference finals three, four years, playoffs every year. We won. If you don’t win, nobody really wants to see you.”

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    If Boucher continues to put up 20 plus for the rest of the season, then maybe you have a case. But Wood is the favorite to win that award especially right now. Then it would be Grant.

    I mean they start for their teams and Boucher doesn't. If anything that is practically a deciding factor right there.

    But the Raptors face Miami tonight and then on Friday at home in a back to back.

    I mean your schedule doesn't get any easier after Miami cuz y'all have to face the Bucks, Kings, Magic twice, Nets with KD/Harden/Kyrie, Hawks and then the Grizzlies

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    Disappointing game. Miami just out executed the Raptors tonight.

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    “It’s about winning,” Stoudemire said. “You win, you’re going to get on national TV. Simple. In Phoenix, we won — Western Conference finals three, four years, playoffs every year. We won. If you don’t win, nobody really wants to see you.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    With the new system tanking doesn’t give you much more odds at a better pick. You could be dead last and still only have a 50% chance at a top 4 pick. You could be 4th last and have a 48% chance. It’s not much different.

    Also this year there is a play in tournament, and teams 9&10 can get them selves in the post season. We’re def not going to tank. 0 chance.

    But what we absolutely need to do is improve on our front court. We’re way to soft and rebounding will be a huge problem come post season time when the game slows down and becomes more physical. Our glaring hole up front will be that much more obvious.

    We don’t even need a star or anything. Just a quality big who can rebound and provide solid help D.
    This simply not a good team. They aren’t trying to tank but they have regressed. Even if they squeak in to the playoffs they will be one and done. Even if they get a quality big man, they won’t be contenders. I hope MU makes some moves in either direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    With the new system tanking doesn’t give you much more odds at a better pick. You could be dead last and still only have a 50% chance at a top 4 pick. You could be 4th last and have a 48% chance. It’s not much different.

    Also this year there is a play in tournament, and teams 9&10 can get them selves in the post season. We’re def not going to tank. 0 chance.

    But what we absolutely need to do is improve on our front court. We’re way to soft and rebounding will be a huge problem come post season time when the game slows down and becomes more physical. Our glaring hole up front will be that much more obvious.

    We don’t even need a star or anything. Just a quality big who can rebound and provide solid help D.
    I don’t like the word “tanking” because it presumes the team is trying to lose only for a draft pick. I agree they won’t do that. But if this team has a 20-25 record with only 27 games remaining, do you trade Lowry at the deadline?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aman_13 View Post
    I think it is between him and Jerami Grant right now.

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    For sure. Both guys been on fire. Grant might have the edge being the go to guy in Detroit now and the fact that he’s a consistent starter

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    For sure. Both guys been on fire. Grant might have the edge being the go to guy in Detroit now and the fact that he’s a consistent starter
    He played well in the playoffs. Nice to see him carry that momentum.

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    “It’s about winning,” Stoudemire said. “You win, you’re going to get on national TV. Simple. In Phoenix, we won — Western Conference finals three, four years, playoffs every year. We won. If you don’t win, nobody really wants to see you.”

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    Nice bounce back win.

    Nurse didnt like their effort last game and they responded.

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    “It’s about winning,” Stoudemire said. “You win, you’re going to get on national TV. Simple. In Phoenix, we won — Western Conference finals three, four years, playoffs every year. We won. If you don’t win, nobody really wants to see you.”

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    Well y'all are 6-9 but bein honest the W wasn't even really all that great. Strictly my opinion. Yeah you guys did beat them. No one is disputing that but Miami has been ravaged all year with injuries so they were not even at full strength.

    But the true test to see what you really are starts tomorrow when you face Indiana twice. Then after that you have to face Milwaukee, Sacramento, Orlando twice, Brooklyn, Atlanta, Grizzlies and Wizards.

    But against Indiana though, who on this Toronto team can match up with Sabonis? He is their #1 option basically

    Plus Brogdon has always played great games whenever he faces the Raptors

    But the thing about Indiana is that everything the Raptors are or were, Indiana is right now in a sense because they have a defensive identity. The Raptors don't or they are still trying to figure it out.

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    Wood and Grant were the 2 FA I wanted most.....especially Wood. ( including serge and Gasol) Can you imagine they had him on this roster instead of Baynes?

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    The Raps identity is still their smothering defense. It started out rough as they worked in multiple new faces with a shortened pre-season and moving last minute to TB, but they are getting back to normal.

    The key is the 3pt defense. Last year they were near the top in almost everything defensively, but the biggest thing they did well was run people off the line and challenge deep balls. Between OG, Siakam and Boucher they do an excellent job contesting corner 3's. (..aka the money spot for a lot of players..).

    With Johnson and Davis settling in to the rotation over Thomas and Flynn, they have 4 guys off the bench that have been using their defensive schemes for over a year. Johnson and Davis also give them 2 bigger, stronger, longer defenders. So they don't just know the D better, but they have higher ceilings on that end of the floor due to their superior size and athleticism.



    In terms of guarding Sabonis, that will likely go to Baynes , but I see thrm using their zone a lot.

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