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RAIDERS, SHARKS, WARRIORS
"i don't believe in mysteries but still i pray for my sister, when speaking to the higher power that listens, to the lifeless vision of freedom everytime we're imprisoned, to the righteous victims of people of a higher position" - planet asia, old timer thoughts
"God is Universal he is the Ruler Universal" - gangstarr (rip guru), robbin hood theory
"don't gain the world and lose your soul, wisdom is better than silver and gold" - bob marley, zion train
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Is it my tin foil hat that makes me think that the rich will get the proper vaccine before the poor, no matter what their occupation?
The people that actually backup what they say with action as opposed to those that simply run their mouth. Even for someone that just runs their mouth, you could at least be consistent. You go from "I hope someone kills Donald Trump" to "he's helped out the economy, I think I might want him to stay in power" to "he is destroying this economy and destroying democracy, you'd have to be crazy to support him" in a matter of days.
I get that you love the sound of your own voice but come on, man. It's tough to take you seriously the way you go about these conversations.
RAIDERS, SHARKS, WARRIORS
"i don't believe in mysteries but still i pray for my sister, when speaking to the higher power that listens, to the lifeless vision of freedom everytime we're imprisoned, to the righteous victims of people of a higher position" - planet asia, old timer thoughts
"God is Universal he is the Ruler Universal" - gangstarr (rip guru), robbin hood theory
"don't gain the world and lose your soul, wisdom is better than silver and gold" - bob marley, zion train
Ima come shoot you while you sleep
One thing a lot of people don't know about these vaccines, tho, is that it's not like they start from scratch. They likely started out with a flu vaccine or SARS vaccine and edited from there...so from a safety standpoint shouldn't be starting from that far upfield.
gotta love 'referential' treatment
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Yea, tbh honest if someone decided they will take the vaccine, I don't see the early batches as really being any more dangerous. There is a lot of science and real live trials that these pass before even sniffing the market.
I guess really the way it could make a diff is if the vaccine somehow has a negative effect like 8 months later and our early trial data doesn't show it yet. It's possible but incredibly low likelihood.
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RAIDERS, SHARKS, WARRIORS
"i don't believe in mysteries but still i pray for my sister, when speaking to the higher power that listens, to the lifeless vision of freedom everytime we're imprisoned, to the righteous victims of people of a higher position" - planet asia, old timer thoughts
"God is Universal he is the Ruler Universal" - gangstarr (rip guru), robbin hood theory
"don't gain the world and lose your soul, wisdom is better than silver and gold" - bob marley, zion train
The CDC would have been happy with 50+ efficacy and we currently have 90+. If everyone were to take this vaccine, we would eliminate the virus in a very short time. Will we eradicate it completely or just learn to live with it as we do with the seasonal flu? Time will tell.
I'm sure we will need boosters annually or possibly more often than that with this vaccine. Hopefully, the virus will simply mutate into a form that is not infective as H1N1 did.
We have been told by the Iowa Department of Public Health that the vaccines that are currently being released will be available late this year and are safe, having been fully tested by the FDA and other foreign government health agencies. The CDC and FDA would not allow "corners to be cut" in the testing. The testing was under international scrutiny throughout and the vaccines that pass the 3 stages of testing -- does the vaccine kill the virus invitro, does the vaccine injure the patient it is used on, does it stop infection in the patients it is used on.
If we need boosters annually or more often than that, so be it. We get flu shots annually (with less than 50% effectiveness). Another shot annually won't be a big deal for me.
Last edited by catman; 11-22-2020 at 11:12 PM.
This is a release from the CDC:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...they-work.html
I get all the big vaccines but never the flu.
I’d prefer not to get this one but the two things that could change that are (1) if my employer pushes getting it so people can return to work (I miss the office) or (2) if it means my parents are more safe and come to visit.
....which I guess is selfish and I’ll just end up getting it. We do have a newborn at home with no immune system yet so that’s a factor.
I won't be going back into my office. For starters, no one on my team is located in the same office or even state as I am and two I'm too used to not getting on the train every day. I really like my job but I think it would be a sticking point if they forced me to go back into the office at this point. I've gotten a taste of this and I'm not giving it up. Thankfully I work in IT, where you can work remotely from anywhere.
I will end up getting the vaccine. I do have to say it dose worry me a little just because of how fast it is taking them to come up with it. the other side of it is I think a lot of people will think this is a cure all and once they get it will immediately go out and start acting like things are back to normal.
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