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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    it still ain't free....you're payin' for it where you are too, eh?
    ...just not directly
    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    It's probab;y because so many people will get uniiversal health care without paying anything at all.
    I love it when Americans talk down on our healthcare system all while living in a country where if you go to a hospital, you're basically ****ed financially.

    To SiteWolf, yes, I'm well aware that both my federal and provincial taxes are going to healthcare and I couldn't be happier. This past December I had a kidney stone and decided to take an Uber to the hospital on a Friday night. Mainly because the ambulance would've cost me $50. That's the price of an ambulance all across Ontario by the way.

    Once I arrived at the hospital I went through triage and waited about 2 and a half hours before being given a bed. Shortly after that I saw a nurse who gave me an IV of toradol which was completely free. The pain subsided then a Dr came to tell me I needed a CT scan which was also completely free. The CT scan revealed that I indeed had a kidney stone. Luckily for me I have health benefits through work so the prescription of Percocet was covered. If I didn't have benefits that would've been the only thing I had to pay for. Universal healthcare rules and you are the dumbest of the dumb if you think otherwise. There's talk of dental coverage being added now too which is something I would completely get behind even as a person who already has dental coverage through work.

    To Sluggo, you need a provincial health card in Canada to receive medical care for free. If you don't have a provincial health card you will be billed for basically everything. Like you guys are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    Kamala is literally a cop.

    It's sad how effective the right wing propaganda machines are. Everyone's so scared for so many insane reasons.
    It's interesting how any Democrat is painted with the same brush: commie hippy liberal.


    But the contradiction is hysterical. They spent months saying "if Biden hasn't fixed anything in 47 years in Government, what makes you think he's going to fix it now", but now it's "if Joe Biden is elected he will turn America into a socialist hellscape" despite the fact he didn't in his prior 47 years in Government.


    Like Biden is suddenly going to switch from centrist moderate to socialist liberal in his 48th year in Government lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3 View Post
    I love it when Americans talk down on our healthcare system all while living in a country where if you go to a hospital, you're basically ****ed financially.

    To SiteWolf, yes, I'm well aware that both my federal and provincial taxes are going to healthcare and I couldn't be happier. This past December I had a kidney stone and decided to take an Uber to the hospital on a Friday night. Mainly because the ambulance would've cost me $50. That's the price of an ambulance all across Ontario by the way.

    Once I arrived at the hospital I went through triage and waited about 2 and a half hours before being given a bed. Shortly after that I saw a nurse who gave me an IV of toradol which was completely free. The pain subsided then a Dr came to tell me I needed a CT scan which was also completely free. The CT scan revealed that I indeed had a kidney stone. Luckily for me I have health benefits through work so the prescription of Percocet was covered. If I didn't have benefits that would've been the only thing I had to pay for. Universal healthcare rules and you are the dumbest of the dumb if you think otherwise. There's talk of dental coverage being added now too which is something I would completely get behind even as a person who already has dental coverage through work.

    To Sluggo, you need a provincial health card in Canada to receive medical care for free. If you don't have a provincial health card you will be billed for basically everything. Like you guys are.


    So what does that mean??? Do you get a provincial healthcare card if you are on welfare and/or food stamps or any other public assistance??? Do you have elfare and/or food stamps or any other public assistance???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    [/B]

    So what does that mean??? Do you get a provincial healthcare card if you are on welfare and/or food stamps or any other public assistance??? Do you have elfare and/or food stamps or any other public assistance???
    Wait so someone shouldn't get Healthcare if they need public assistance?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    it still ain't free....you're payin' for it where you are too, eh?
    ...just not directly
    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    [/B]

    So what does that mean??? Do you get a provincial healthcare card if you are on welfare and/or food stamps or any other public assistance??? Do you have elfare and/or food stamps or any other public assistance???
    If you are a Canadian living in the same province for 150 or so days you get a health card. It has nothing to do with welfare or public assistance. The old one never expired but the new one has a photo. It has to be renewed every 3 or 4 years I believe. You just have to go wait in line and pay nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    Wait so someone shouldn't get Healthcare if they need public assistance?

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    The question was originally who was paying for UHC. I made the point that many who will get it pay nothing at all for the privilege. You seem to be confirming that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3 View Post
    If you are a Canadian living in the same province for 150 or so days you get a health card. It has nothing to do with welfare or public assistance. The old one never expired but the new one has a photo. It has to be renewed every 3 or 4 years I believe. You just have to go wait in line and pay nothing.
    I agree, it is hilarious to hear any American making fun of any other industrialized country's healthcare when ours not only doesn't cover everyone, it costs more for us to not cover everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    The question was originally who was paying for UHC. I made the point that many who will get it pay nothing at all for the privilege. You seem to be confirming that.
    You are 100% wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    It's interesting how any Democrat is painted with the same brush: commie hippy liberal.


    But the contradiction is hysterical. They spent months saying "if Biden hasn't fixed anything in 47 years in Government, what makes you think he's going to fix it now", but now it's "if Joe Biden is elected he will turn America into a socialist hellscape" despite the fact he didn't in his prior 47 years in Government.


    Like Biden is suddenly going to switch from centrist moderate to socialist liberal in his 48th year in Government lol
    The sad thing about it is that propaganda is so good, that the politically unaware voters are likely to believe that Biden will turn us into a socialist nation if elected. This is the part that I despised the most about our political leaders, instead of educating the mass, the wish to deceive the public with bs like this or that Obama is a Muslim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    I agree, it is hilarious to hear any American making fun of any other industrialized country's healthcare when ours not only doesn't cover everyone, it costs more for us to not cover everyone.
    It's insane. It just shows the greed of a nation. Universal healthcare is one of, if not the best part about being a Canadian. The fact that Canadians are slowly starting to push for more is a great thing too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3 View Post
    You are 100% wrong.
    Do many who will get it pay nothing at all for the privilege??? Yes or No???

    UHC is probably paid for through taxation…do many who pay no taxes get free health care??? Yes or no????

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    Quote Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3 View Post
    I love it when Americans talk down on our healthcare system all while living in a country where if you go to a hospital, you're basically ****ed financially.

    To SiteWolf, yes, I'm well aware that both my federal and provincial taxes are going to healthcare and I couldn't be happier. This past December I had a kidney stone and decided to take an Uber to the hospital on a Friday night. Mainly because the ambulance would've cost me $50. That's the price of an ambulance all across Ontario by the way.

    Once I arrived at the hospital I went through triage and waited about 2 and a half hours before being given a bed. Shortly after that I saw a nurse who gave me an IV of toradol which was completely free. The pain subsided then a Dr came to tell me I needed a CT scan which was also completely free. The CT scan revealed that I indeed had a kidney stone. Luckily for me I have health benefits through work so the prescription of Percocet was covered. If I didn't have benefits that would've been the only thing I had to pay for. Universal healthcare rules and you are the dumbest of the dumb if you think otherwise. There's talk of dental coverage being added now too which is something I would completely get behind even as a person who already has dental coverage through work.

    To Sluggo, you need a provincial health card in Canada to receive medical care for free. If you don't have a provincial health card you will be billed for basically everything. Like you guys are.
    I didn't talk down on your system, dude...I simply pointed out that it gets paid for, even if indirectly.
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sluggo1 View Post
    Do many who will get it pay nothing at all for the privilege??? Yes or No???

    UHC is probably paid for through taxation…do many who pay no taxes get free health care??? Yes or no????
    In order to be paying 0 tax in Canada you will need to be working for 100% cash. So yes, drug dealers who have provincial health cards will be getting healthcare for free. So fine, you're 85% wrong.
    Last edited by R. Johnson#3; 11-06-2020 at 06:09 PM.
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    They pay for it with the taxes they paid. But before you start crowing about 'see, see they paid" we paid a helluva a lot of money for medical coverage that is way higher than any tax they paid to have their medical system.
    A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual doom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    I didn't talk down on your system, dude...I simply pointed out that it gets paid for, even if indirectly.
    Never said you did. Just started my post off with that. There's a big reason why I didn't mention your name until after that. No need to soften up now that you feel silly
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