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    Quote Originally Posted by natepro View Post
    The whole calling me a troll and the bizarre fascination with me masturbating is all the same thing: deflection and distraction.

    I asked for something simple and reasonable, and he has completely lost his mind over it. It's so weird to watch unfold in real time.
    I have not lost my mind over anything. You on the other hand, have continued to troll and play stupid games. I have answered your question many times. The fact that you didn't pay attention to what Biden said during the campaign is not my problem. Perhaps you should stop being a troll here and actually pay some attention to what is going on. It appears you are anti-immigrant, from what you are saying here.
    Trump was anti-immigrant. Biden wants to open the borders to allow more immigrants in. What is wrong with that?
    And, as I said, what you do in the privacy of your own home is not a concern of mine. I have never said anything about your sexual habits -- just another time where you have assumed that I mean something that I don't say. I'm simply tired of your stupid games.
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    Yes it's Ben Carson, but everything in the story is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    Yes I made a claim. I have answered his questions many times. The fact that he did not pay attention to Biden's campaign promises is not my problem. The fact that he continues to want to play stupid games is not my problem. I will no longer play those games with him.
    Your problem is that he asked for proof where he ran on opening up the borders to unfettered access like you claimed and then you not being able to find that proof.

    Your other problem is that you can’t admit when you are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    Yes it's Ben Carson, but everything in the story is true.
    And it doesn’t say he campaigned on opening the boarder. In fact it is the authors opinion that he unwittingly opened the boarder by not recognizing what the results of his policies would be. Even when using the most partisan of sources you are proving yourself wrong.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps08-09 Champ View Post
    My dick is named 'Ewing'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by natepro View Post
    Were the Republicans sore losers when they impeached Clinton?
    Nope. When they did what they did, they acted honorably and with utmost respect. LOL

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    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...t_145471.html#!
    https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/b...n-bound-for-us
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bi...y/ar-BB1esgxh/
    https://dailycaller.com/2021/09/23/t...remain-mexico/
    And, of course, had people paid attention to campaign speeches last year, you would have heard many, many more.
    Unfortunately, some would rather sit around trolling than actually pay attention to what is going on.

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    Joe Biden's Presidency

    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...t_145471.html#!
    https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/b...n-bound-for-us
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bi...y/ar-BB1esgxh/
    https://dailycaller.com/2021/09/23/t...remain-mexico/
    And, of course, had people paid attention to campaign speeches last year, you would have heard many, many more.
    Unfortunately, some would rather sit around trolling than actually pay attention to what is going on.
    You keep digging this hole. I have to ask are trying to get to CHINA???


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps08-09 Champ View Post
    My dick is named 'Ewing'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...t_145471.html#!
    https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/b...n-bound-for-us
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bi...y/ar-BB1esgxh/
    https://dailycaller.com/2021/09/23/t...remain-mexico/
    And, of course, had people paid attention to campaign speeches last year, you would have heard many, many more.
    Unfortunately, some would rather sit around trolling than actually pay attention to what is going on.
    First one:

    Ramos: "Are you prepared to say tonight that you and President [Barack] Obama made a mistake [on deportations]? Why should Latinos trust you?"

    Biden answered by criticizing Donald Trump's handling of migrants at the border, defending Obama's, and adding:

    "I would in fact make sure that there is, that we immediately surge to the border -- all those people are seeking asylum. They deserve to be heard," Biden said. "That's who we are. We're a nation that says, 'If you want to flee and you're fleeing oppression, you should come.'"
    That doesn’t say that he said we’ll have open borders if he’s elected.

    The second one is from a Laura Ingraham show that doesn’t have any Biden quotes.

    Nothing in the third one that talks about Biden opening up borders with unfettered access.

    Nothing in the fourth one, either. Just because you googled “Biden” and “open border” doesn’t mean that Biden ever actually said that, campaigned in that or is doing that.

    FAIL
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    Look people -- Biden, during the campaign last year, said that he would open the borders to those who wanted to come in. If you weren't paying attention, that is not my problem.
    No fail from me. The failure is in the execution of any sort of policy from the man who is supposed to be in charge in Washington. Can anyone point out a success that Biden has had, thusfar (other than ending our engagement in Afghanistan)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    Look people -- Biden, during the campaign last year, said that he would open the borders to those who wanted to come in. If you weren't paying attention, that is not my problem.
    No fail from me. The failure is in the execution of any sort of policy from the man who is supposed to be in charge in Washington. Can anyone point out a success that Biden has had, thusfar (other than ending our engagement in Afghanistan)?
    This talking point seems incredibly silly. Saying you would open the border to those who want to come here doesn’t sound unreasonable to me. If he were saying he would say they can just come in and follow no rules, that would be something.

    Our country is a nation of immigrants so saying that you want to allow that to continue seems like it is in line with the founding ideals. It would like him up with Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and the rest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    When did I say I was anti-immigrant? I believe, if you have read what I wrote, as opposed to what you wanted me to have written, you will see that I want to allow immigration to continue. I have worked with many immigrants through my church to get them legal status.
    You leftists are amazing. Nate appears to be opposed to open borders. Bronco lefty appears to agree with him.
    When you said that Biden saying he wanted to let in more immigrants than Trump meant he was for completely open borders to let everyone in no matter what.

    It’s anti-immigrant rhetoric.

    If you aren’t anti-immigrant, why are you so disgusted at the idea of Biden letting more of them in?
    Last edited by valade16; 09-26-2021 at 02:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    Look people -- Biden, during the campaign last year, said that he would open the borders to those who wanted to come in. If you weren't paying attention, that is not my problem.
    No fail from me. The failure is in the execution of any sort of policy from the man who is supposed to be in charge in Washington. Can anyone point out a success that Biden has had, thusfar (other than ending our engagement in Afghanistan)?
    Not with “unfettered access”. You are such a hack and you got exposed. Again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    You leftists are amazing. Nate appears to be opposed to open borders. Bronco lefty appears to agree with him.
    I have not said anything either way on my opinion of open borders. Why do you think lying is going to work for you here?

    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    Someone else's making the same baseless claim you have - and this doesn't even go that far, since he's talking about what Biden has done and not what he campaigned on - is not evidence. It's just another person making the same claim. Still waiting on that citation.
    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...t_145471.html#!
    https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/b...n-bound-for-us
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/bi...y/ar-BB1esgxh/
    https://dailycaller.com/2021/09/23/t...remain-mexico/
    And, of course, had people paid attention to campaign speeches last year, you would have heard many, many more.
    Unfortunately, some would rather sit around trolling than actually pay attention to what is going on.
    Hey look, you're finally trying.

    So, let's take these articles in order:

    1. Bizarrely, the author seems to have written a whole article based on not understanding what Biden said. To wit:

    "I would in fact make sure that there is, that we immediately surge to the border -- all those people are seeking asylum. They deserve to be heard," Biden said. "That's who we are. We're a nation that says, 'If you want to flee and you're fleeing oppression, you should come.'"

    That is not Biden saying that migrants should surge to the border, it's that we should so that we can help the people that are there. He literally says "we immediately surge to the border... they deserve to be heard."

    And... that's pretty much it when it comes to discussing what he campaigned on. So, we're 0 for 1.



    2. Christ, this is a whole transcript from an episode of the Laura Ingraham Show. The first third or so of this is a hopefully sober Pirro and Dinesh D'Souza jerking each other off over what victims Republicans are, but it has nothing to do with the border so we can skip over that.

    After the first commercial, we get this:

    "JOE BIDEN, (D) PRESIDENT-ELECT: There will not be another foot of wall constructed in my administration. Send to the United States Congress a path to citizenship for 11 million undocumented folks. And we shouldn't be putting these people when they come across the border in jail--"

    This is not calling for an open border. An ineffective-at-best border wall is not what makes a border open or closed, and the 11 million he's referring to here are Dreamers who were brought here as children through no fault of their own - again, not an open border, given that they're already here. The final sentence that they cut off ends with "we should be monitoring them." None of this is calling for, in your words, "unfetter access to the border.

    And... that's it. In that entire transcript, those three sentences are the only ones from Biden that talk about immigration. 0 for 2.


    3. This is an opinion piece that doesn't contain a single full sentence quote from Biden. In fact, the only quote from Biden I can find in the entire article is a single word, and it's regarding Texas ending it's mask mandate and isn't about immigration at all. At this point I have to assume you're just posting articles based on their title without actually reading them, but you're now 0 for 3.l


    4. Tulsi Gabbard. Oh boy.

    And we have a second article in a row without a quote from Biden. You didn't read this one either, did you? It's even the shortest of the bunch! It's literally just Tulsi Gabbard making the same claim you are, with exactly as much support for it: none. No quotes from Biden, which is literally all I've asked for.





    And so we have four articles from you that you clearly didn't read, given that none of them support the claim you made. Now that we know you can use Google, finding something that actually backs up your claim that Biden campaigned on, in your own words, "unfettered access at the border" should not be difficult if he did.

    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    Look people -- Biden, during the campaign last year, said that he would open the borders to those who wanted to come in. If you weren't paying attention, that is not my problem.
    No fail from me. The failure is in the execution of any sort of policy from the man who is supposed to be in charge in Washington. Can anyone point out a success that Biden has had, thusfar (other than ending our engagement in Afghanistan)?
    Excellent! Show where he said that. You have not yet done so.


    Sure, but I'm not letting you change the subject so you can get away from your inability to back up your assertions.


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    Nate: are we the hardline against immigration? It sounds like we might be.

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