NFL Week 8: Las Vegas Raiders(3-3) @ Cleveland Browns(5-2)

[dbacknick]

Come on now brother, you can’t say his absence doesn’t hurt our o-line play? He’s a mammoth of a man with skills to boot. What a shame.

You'd have to admit,,,,,he wasn't needed today. He is a force when he's in.....IF he's IN.

[autechre]

You'd have to admit,,,,,he wasn't needed today. He is a force when he's in.....IF he's IN.

He makes Jacobs elite. There, I said it

[dbacknick]

He makes Jacobs elite. There, I said it

Jacobs and Booker looked good today w/o Brown. I hope he's OK, but he and Young being out is getting a little old.

[HunterNRoss]

Well that is very serious. air bubble in your bloodstream can be deadly(also known as an air embolism).

[RaiderLakersA's]

After watching this game, let me ask y'all:

How many career wins would Derek Carr have if he played for Baltimore or Pittsburgh?

If Derek Carr had a top-16 defense every year, would he still have a losing record? I don't think so.

He'd have multiple Super Bowl rings.

[RaiderLakersA's]

Well that is very serious. air bubble in your bloodstream can be deadly(also known as an air embolism).

Wow, I didn't know it was that serious. I guess they downplayed it so as not to alarm his family? You're right, he could have died from that.

[HunterNRoss]

Wow, I didn't know it was that serious. I guess they downplayed it so as not to alarm his family? You're right, he could have died from that.

Yea that is very serious. Downplayed by the Raiders staff but thats completely on the medical staff on not Trent Brown. 1150 people had died this year to air embolism.

[Proximo]

I don't think even Tom Brady or Aaron Rodgers would have succeeded here.

No one would have. Otto Graham to Russell Wilson.

I didn’t like the optics of how Carr handled himself through all of that and ghosts of QB’s past that bothered me. But I also have a Gen X bias.


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[Switch]

That's a scary situation. I hope Trent Brown is ok

[dbacknick]

Well that is very serious. air bubble in your bloodstream can be deadly(also known as an air embolism).

Thanks for that! Hope he's OK, and gets home soon! Just bad luck.

[mmbt]

Derek Carr has earned his paycheck this year. He’s doing everything that can be asked of a leader. I’m glad he’s proved me wrong, he’s worked on his craft and is playing with a chip on his shoulder. That being said, whether he’s elite is a debate that’s worth discussing.

Not elite, but very very good. And since elite ain't walking in the door, I'll take it.

I think his career has shown he’s a streaky player.

It wasn't so much the streaky from game to game that killed me, everyone has good and bad games. It was the tendency within games to have a couple of elite throws and great looking drives, mixed with a number of pathetic 3 and outs or stupid mistakes where he looked like a rookie out of D-II.

This year we're 7 games in and that Jekyll and Hyde crap has not happened. He's managed to mostly be "good Carr," and minimized the "WTF are you doing" moments that plagued him in the past.

[dbacknick]

Not elite, but very very good. And since elite ain't walking in the door, I'll take it.



It wasn't so much the streaky from game to game that killed me, everyone has good and bad games. It was the tendency within games to have a couple of elite throws and great looking drives, mixed with a number of pathetic 3 and outs or stupid mistakes where he looked like a rookie out of D-II.

This year we're 7 games in and that Jekyll and Hyde crap has not happened. He's managed to mostly be "good Carr," and minimized the "WTF are you doing" moments that plagued him in the past.

I think that is due to the Gruden effect.

[autechre]

I think that is due to the Gruden effect.

You’re probably right but Olsen and Gruden aren’t doing him any favors with the vanilla play calling.

[dbacknick]

You’re probably right but Olsen and Gruden aren’t doing him any favors with the vanilla play calling.

I make allowances, especially today. Hey, if the run game is working, stay with it, Kudos to whoever was the one who picked the direction they were going after losing the toss. I believe that had a big impact in the 2nd and 4th. Wasn't exactly optimum pass conditions.

[krsonekth]

Well that is very serious. air bubble in your bloodstream can be deadly(also known as an air embolism).

That is very series. Brown can't catch a break at this point.

On a good note Brandon Parker looked decent today.