QBR and QBR leaders

[koldjerky]

I think people here take stats for granted and don’t realize how much they incorporate it in their arguments. Imagine if there was no record keeping at all? No passing yards, yards per attempt, yac, etc..... nothing at all. How would you know who’s in the third tier or fourth? Not to be fully reliant on them or be lazy about it but they are a necessary tool.

How would you know if your new guard was above average? For the eye test you would have to watch every play from 64 guards from week one to now.
I’ve heard people here say that stats don’t tell the whole story which is true.
The eye test tells us much less.

I’ll say that I’m on the side of stats providing more valuation of a player but it’s not as much more as what it seems people think.

60/40 in favor of stats over context/eye test is where I’d put it. The More and more stats start lessening the need to apply context, it goes up.

Again, I’m a numbers/stats guy but the different variables in football makes me hesitate on how much value they have without context.


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[BDawk4Prez]

I’ll say that I’m on the side of stats providing more valuation of a player but it’s not as much more as what it seems people think.

60/40 in favor of stats over context/eye test is where I’d put it. The More and more stats start lessening the need to apply context, it goes up.

Again, I’m a numbers/stats guy but the different variables in football makes me hesitate on how much value they have without context.


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Fair. I’m 60/40 the other way.

[koldjerky]

Fair. I’m 60/40 the other way.

I do think stats hold more weight for the exact reason it’s been said. Unless you’re watching all game film and every angle, it’s very hard to use eye test but the fact that you have to use context for a lot of football stats is what pushes it to 40


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[BDawk4Prez]

I do think stats hold more weight for the exact reason it’s been said. Unless you’re watching all game film and every angle, it’s very hard to use eye test but the fact that you have to use context for a lot of football stats is what pushes it to 40


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I think that is fair.

I’m more on the context side for football stats.

[BDawk4Prez]

I do think stats hold more weight for the exact reason it’s been said. Unless you’re watching all game film and every angle, it’s very hard to use eye test but the fact that you have to use context for a lot of football stats is what pushes it to 40


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I also fault fantasy sports for making evaluations stat dependent.

[koldjerky]

I also fault fantasy sports for making evaluations stat dependent.

If you think about it though, what valuations aren’t based off numbers? I’m not even talking just sports.


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[koldjerky]

I think that is fair.

I’m more on the context side for football stats.

And that’s fair too. You really need to compile a lot of stats in football to not have to look into “but if you consider this...”


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[QQQ]

Can we all just ****in agree that

Wentz>dak

[manbearchef]

Can we all just ****in agree that

Wentz>dak

Wentz: 2 working feet
Dak: 1 working foot

The stats don't lie.

[QQQ]

Wentz: 2 working feet
Dak: 1 working foot

The stats don't lie.

Indubitably

[QB_Eagles]

Wentz: 2 working feet
Dak: 1 working foot

The stats don't lie.

If Wentz plays the whole season, Dak will have missed more games in his career due to injury than Wentz.

11 missed games > 8 missed games

#InjuryProne as proven by stats.

[QQQ]

If Wentz plays the whole season, Dak will have missed more games in his career due to injury than Wentz.

11 missed games > 8 missed games

#InjuryProne as proven by stats.

Stats>eye test>context

Dak is injury prone

[mariner4life]

If Wentz plays the whole season, Dak will have missed more games in his career due to injury than Wentz.

11 missed games > 8 missed games

#InjuryProne as proven by stats.

Your examples only strengthen our argument.

[mariner4life]

If your down 14 in the 4th quarter and the losing team scores a TD do you go for two?

[QB_Eagles]

If your down 14 in the 4th quarter and the losing team scores a TD do you go for two?

I like math.

That's why I have a general distrust of using stats for arguments.