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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by IKnowHoops View Post
    I get that on paper CP3 is not worth 44 million. But I do believe his impact on winning is. He and Gallinari replaced Russ and PG13 and OKC was a lot better. CP3 was outplaying Harden in the playoff. I 100% feel he makes the Lakers better at his current level than Bradley Beal does. Heís outplayed Curry basically ever year he goes up against him. Just a smart player that when you put him on a team with both Bron and Rondo will just make us unstoppable. I 100% feel we win the chip the next two years with him on the roster no matter what anyone else does, so I think paying him his salary is worth it. At the end of the day, even though Iím a Bron fan, Iíll like AD, KCP and the Lakers organization. I want them to win so Iím not trying to be disagreeable or argue...we all just want to see this team win, and if you think about it...

    What we have to give up for CP3

    Is chicken feed

    Compared to what we have to give up for Bradley Beal

    Especially when I believe

    CP3 will make us a lot better than Bradley Beal will.

    Weíd really lose a ton of ďprovenĒ depth like Caruso/KCP and draft picks for Beal. But we loose nothing but guys we want gone/didnít even play in the finals, for Paul.
    Again, it could happen, but it will be way better if he accepts a buy out. He is an injury prone guy. Rondo will be gone in the package in a sign and trade to save us AB. If he wants to get paid and Thunder accepts the deal. It is very possible.
    Lebron is the one!

  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by IKnowHoops View Post
    I get that on paper CP3 is not worth 44 million. But I do believe his impact on winning is. He and Gallinari replaced Russ and PG13 and OKC was a lot better. CP3 was outplaying Harden in the playoff. I 100% feel he makes the Lakers better at his current level than Bradley Beal does. Heís outplayed Curry basically ever year he goes up against him. Just a smart player that when you put him on a team with both Bron and Rondo will just make us unstoppable. I 100% feel we win the chip the next two years with him on the roster no matter what anyone else does, so I think paying him his salary is worth it. At the end of the day, even though Iím a Bron fan, Iíll like AD, KCP and the Lakers organization. I want them to win so Iím not trying to be disagreeable or argue...we all just want to see this team win, and if you think about it...

    What we have to give up for CP3

    Is chicken feed

    Compared to what we have to give up for Bradley Beal

    Especially when I believe

    CP3 will make us a lot better than Bradley Beal will.

    Weíd really lose a ton of ďprovenĒ depth like Caruso/KCP and draft picks for Beal. But we loose nothing but guys we want gone/didnít even play in the finals, for Paul.
    Caruso and KCP on one dude and Beal in the one? Beal is a score! KCP, Green and Kuzma! Take it or leave it! Then Galo and other vets to run!
    Lebron is the one!

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    CP3 > Rondo

    CP3 never played with Garnett, Pierce, Allen. Or a team with LeBron and AD. Elevating your play during the playoffs is a lot easier to do when you are on teams with two to three future HOF players!

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    DeMar Derozan, I think would be an easy get if he decides to opt out and be a UFA. SAS will need some serious re-tooling. I definitely dont see him and LMA as part of their future plans. 31yo, LA native. I see him as someone who'd give up money to win a title.

    -A low-key scoring specialist (53% FG) who can create his own shot
    -Could embrace an Iggy/Lou type of role off the bench
    -Constant 16-20ppg threat but is also capable of absorbing the defense and dish out to the perimeter

    As I understand our current cap situation:

    1. Lakers can go over the cap to resign both KCP/Rondo
    2. Lakers have two exceptions available:
    -BAE could be used for Dwight Howard
    -MLE could be split between DD and Keef (tbh he actually played pretty well except for that one error)
    3. Pretty sure the Lakers can convince DMC to sign for the vets min (1yr prove it deal)
    4. Klutch clients on the market who can be had for the vets min (Waiters/Noel/Trier)

    Assuming that Kyle Kuzma gets traded along with pick #28 + fillers (say DG/McGee/Cook), and gets NOTHING in return we'd still have this roster:

    Howard/Noel (DMC)
    Davis/Morris
    LBJ/Derozan (Kostas)
    KCP/Waiters (THT)
    Bradley/Caruso (Rondo)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mave1002 View Post
    DeMar Derozan, I think would be an easy get if he decides to opt out and be a UFA. SAS will need some serious re-tooling. I definitely dont see him and LMA as part of their future plans. 31yo, LA native. I see him as someone who'd give up money to win a title.

    -A low-key scoring specialist (53% FG) who can create his own shot
    -Could embrace an Iggy/Lou type of role off the bench
    -Constant 16-20ppg threat but is also capable of absorbing the defense and dish out to the perimeter

    As I understand our current cap situation:

    1. Lakers can go over the cap to resign both KCP/Rondo
    2. Lakers have two exceptions available:
    -BAE could be used for Dwight Howard
    -MLE could be split between DD and Keef (tbh he actually played pretty well except for that one error)
    3. Pretty sure the Lakers can convince DMC to sign for the vets min (1yr prove it deal)
    4. Klutch clients on the market who can be had for the vets min (Waiters/Noel/Trier)

    Assuming that Kyle Kuzma gets traded along with pick #28 + fillers (say DG/McGee/Cook), and gets NOTHING in return we'd still have this roster:

    Howard/Noel (DMC)
    Davis/Morris
    LBJ/Derozan (Kostas)
    KCP/Waiters (THT)
    Bradley/Caruso (Rondo)
    Derozan would have to improve tremendously his 3pt shooting to be that useful for us.


    #17 for #24 & G1

    Job's done

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    Quote Originally Posted by maledicent View Post
    CP3 > Rondo

    CP3 never played with Garnett, Pierce, Allen. Or a team with LeBron and AD. Elevating your play during the playoffs is a lot easier to do when you are on teams with two to three future HOF players!
    CP3 had his chances and had played with really solid stars. He is injury prone. Rondo might not be as good as him, but knows his to play when it counts the most, play offs time! Play off Rondo! We need a younger pg and a better bench. He will only come if he opt out if his inflated deal.
    Lebron is the one!

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    Derrick Rose an option for Lakers?


    Now, with the Lakers in a much different position, coming off a championship and measuring what it will take to remain a contender as other teams around the league improve, Rose is again a focal point. And with some pressure to act, both the Lakers and the Pistons might be pushed into finding common ground on a trade. ďI think both sides were reluctant when they went into in January, February,Ē one general manager told Heavy.com. ďI donít think the Lakers wanted to make a major move because they thought they could do something on the buyout market. And I donít think the Pistons wanted to make a major move because Derrick was happy there. You know, the Lakers wanted to be involved in case the Clippers got involved or someone else, the Bucks or the Nuggets, whoever. So there was interest but not too serious. Now, everything has shifted a little. Now, theyíre both in a position to where a deal is much more likely now.Ē Ė via Sean Deveney @ Heavy.com
    Lebron is the one!

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    I like Derozen

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    Quote Originally Posted by IKnowHoops View Post
    I like Derozen
    I fortunately he only shot around 25-26% from 3 last season. Thatís terrible. If he wants to go to a contender then he better jack up 1000 threes a day until MLK day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteShadow42 View Post
    I fortunately he only shot around 25-26% from 3 last season. Thatís terrible. If he wants to go to a contender then he better jack up 1000 threes a day until MLK day.
    This, and he made 0,1 on 0,5 attempts per game...


    #17 for #24 & G1

    Job's done

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron24th View Post
    This, and he made 0,1 on 0,5 attempts per game...
    He will have to take a pay cut in order to join. He in spite of his three point shooting is a super up grade from Kuzma and Green. He is a weapon around the basket and has a very strong jump shot. He is athletic and cane defend. He can create his own shot and can create for others. Mid level player, I can see it as possible. We use Green and Kuzma for a sharp shooter at the 1 or 2. Preferably at the one to save Rondi and Lebronís legs.
    Lebron is the one!

  13. #73
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    Also, freaking Rondo improved his shooting this season dramatically. He might get motivated to improve and he knows he can play with less pressure.
    Lebron is the one!

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    I would go with D Rose as that 3rd star to pair up with LeBron and AD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mave1002 View Post
    DeMar Derozan, I think would be an easy get if he decides to opt out and be a UFA. SAS will need some serious re-tooling. I definitely dont see him and LMA as part of their future plans. 31yo, LA native. I see him as someone who'd give up money to win a title.

    -A low-key scoring specialist (53% FG) who can create his own shot
    -Could embrace an Iggy/Lou type of role off the bench
    -Constant 16-20ppg threat but is also capable of absorbing the defense and dish out to the perimeter

    As I understand our current cap situation:

    1. Lakers can go over the cap to resign both KCP/Rondo
    2. Lakers have two exceptions available:
    -BAE could be used for Dwight Howard
    -MLE could be split between DD and Keef (tbh he actually played pretty well except for that one error)
    3. Pretty sure the Lakers can convince DMC to sign for the vets min (1yr prove it deal)
    4. Klutch clients on the market who can be had for the vets min (Waiters/Noel/Trier)

    Assuming that Kyle Kuzma gets traded along with pick #28 + fillers (say DG/McGee/Cook), and gets NOTHING in return we'd still have this roster:

    Howard/Noel (DMC)
    Davis/Morris
    LBJ/Derozan (Kostas)
    KCP/Waiters (THT)
    Bradley/Caruso (Rondo)
    Just off the top of my head, the most I remember a player not picking up a PO to go sign with a contender is $10 million by David West. He left that in Indy to go sign with GS. You think DDR would walk away from $27 million just to go to the Lakers? Not likely. He can wait a year and then sign for peanuts with whomever he wants.
    "My cow is dead, I don't need your bull"

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