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View Poll Results: Is Ross Atkins the 2nd best GM in Blue Jays History?

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  • Yes

    3 27.27%
  • No

    8 72.73%
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  1. #571
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Powders View Post
    You're not very good at reading then

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    Valid my friend. Valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChongInc. View Post
    Testy? I havenít seen any valid points that disagree with anything Iíve said. Snarky maybe, but certainly not testy. Validated if anything.
    Simmer down there, tootz.
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    Facts can be hypothetical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by R. Johnson#3 View Post
    Simmer down there, tootz.
    You get like this when Iím right. Validated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChongInc. View Post
    You get like this when Iím right. Validated.
    But you're not right. Many of your points have been countered

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Powders View Post
    But you're not right. Many of your points have been countered

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    That kukchi is still on the roster? Ok win for you I guess lol.

    Sharing counter opinions is not disproving me btw lol. Itís called a conversation but this isnít islam and Iím not a woman. Your words do not count for more than mine unless backed by something valid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChongInc. View Post
    You get like this when Iím right. Validated.
    There you go with your hypothetical facts again.
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    Facts can be hypothetical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChongInc. View Post
    That kukchi is still on the roster? Ok win for you I guess lol.

    Sharing counter opinions is not disproving me btw lol. Itís called a conversation but this isnít islam and Iím not a woman. Your words do not count for more than mine unless backed by something valid.
    You get like this when I'm right. Validated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenny Powders View Post
    You get like this when I'm right. Validated.

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    Been waiting for you to tell me what youíre right about. You havenít really made any points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChongInc. View Post
    Been waiting for you to tell me what youíre right about. You havenít really made any points.
    Sure he did.
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    Facts can be hypothetical.

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    If Mariners upset the Astros does that make Atkins better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robbie View Post
    If Mariners upset the Astros does that make Atkins better?
    In my opinion no.

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    Not sure there is much to discuss at this point.

    Ranking GMís is an exercise best when careers are over.

    What is the objective measure to we want to see. Wins per games played? Playoff games compared to seasons under contract? How far a GM has take a team into the playoffs?

    The latter would have me believe that this conversation remains premature years later

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    This debate is becoming closer and closer as the years go on.

    AA gets credit for Vlad Jr

    But Bo, Kirk, Esp, Alek (even though he's had a rough start) were all players drafted by this regime.

    What's even another swing factor is it's been a long a time when the Jays have been a m8ultiple 90+ game winner.

    Overall AA is the better exec, but that's more on what he did with the Braves than the Jays. AA had some very big hits, but his misses were also big. (the Dickey trade, even though Thor is not who he was anymore, AA probably vastly misjudged RA's over reliance on the Knuckleballer moving forwards).

    The Tulo trade was also pretty much a bad one, even though it looked great from the start.

    AA's best moves ultimately were done way earlier than the trades that got the Jays finally to the post season. And the Jays were pretty much a flash in the pan.

    Still atm, as a Jays GM, AA is still on top because his Jays had more post season success, but the gap is narrowing by the year.

    I'd say the order currently is

    Glilick






    AA

    Ross Atkins








    JP

    Gord Ash
    Until they prove the fans wrong again


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    As soon as atkins wins a division or gets further in the playoffs, itís his. For now, I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChongInc. View Post
    As soon as atkins wins a division or gets further in the playoffs, itís his. For now, I agree.
    I think if AA didn't hit on EE and Joey Bats he'd have more success on the Jays.

    As great as those 2 were, they weren't HoF good and were already in their age 26 season thus the clock to get a contender was already ticking.

    The immediacy also meant that AA got to pick lower in the draft.

    Basically higher floor but lower ceiling.
    Until they prove the fans wrong again


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