Yankee off season thread, news, notes, rumors and ideas

[dayners81]

It’s only a smart move if they let him walk . Because unless he takes 3 mill or less to come back . They would only be saving 3 mill

My point was i would rather see them sign Brantley to replace Gardy rather than bring him back at any price. That said i would be very surprised if he wasn't back on some kind of 1yr deal and i agree i wouldn't pay him more than 3m with incentives.

In the past i would have argued that they needed his leadership but his veteran leadership isn't paying off in big dividends

[OhSoSlick]

My point was i would rather see them sign Brantley to replace Gardy rather than bring him back at any price. That said i would be very surprised if he wasn't back on some kind of 1yr deal and i agree i wouldn't pay him more than 3m with incentives.

In the past i would have argued that they needed his leadership but his veteran leadership isn't paying off in big dividends

No one here said it was a wise or smart decision to re-sign him.

So I'm not really sure what the ****ing stupid comments are about, as usual. Par for the course.

Here is why I made my statement(history of doing this with him):

NYY declined Gardner's $10M option and will pay him a $2.5M buyout instead. Bet they try to re-sign him for $5M or so. That's what they did in 2018, declined his option and re-signed him at a lower salary.

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[dayners81]

No one here said it was a wise or smart decision to re-sign him.

So I'm not really sure what the ****ing stupid comments are about, as usual. Par for the course.

Here is why I made my statement(history of doing this with him):



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100%, i just want Brantley not Gardy but like u said i'll be surprised if they don't resign him

[Posada20]

No one here said it was a wise or smart decision to re-sign him.

So I'm not really sure what the ****ing stupid comments are about, as usual. Par for the course.

Here is why I made my statement(history of doing this with him):




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Someone has me on ignore but still feels the need to call my posts stupid . How would he know they are stupid or not if he has me on ignore ? And what is he contributing to the topic of this thread by calling my posts stupid and cursing? I will answer that last question , it is absolutely nothing as usual .

[Posada20]

My point was i would rather see them sign Brantley to replace Gardy rather than bring him back at any price. That said i would be very surprised if he wasn't back on some kind of 1yr deal and i agree i wouldn't pay him more than 3m with incentives.

In the past i would have argued that they needed his leadership but his veteran leadership isn't paying off in big dividends

Oh I agree 100% with you . I was only talking about the front office doing the smart move .

[OhSoSlick]

100%, i just want Brantley not Gardy but like u said i'll be surprised if they don't resign him

I would prefer Brantley over gardy as well.

But where does Brantley play.

Have to assume

Frazier LF
Hicks CF
Judge RF
Stanton DH

I'm not sure Brantley would want to be the 4th outfielder.

Unless they go and trade clint.

(Obviously Judge and Hicks will spend time on the DL, par for the course)

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[Webslinger]

Try look at it in a different way. At least this gives Yankees options because they have both Britton and Chapman. There aren't many elite name relievers out there like Britton. Yankees should be shopping Britton and Chapman can see what offers they get.

Yes many teams might be looking to shed payroll but I believe teams that think they are a contender will spend. Quite a few contending teams have holes at closer. White Sox, I think Colome is a free agent? The cheatin Stros just released Osuna. Dodgers won the WS in spite of Kanley Jansen. Padres have a question mark. Point is Britton and Chap both have value in spite of their high salary, if they can get a favorable deal like we got for Miller and Chap a few years ago, that'd be great right? If not, keep both going into the season. They can always hold both of them till the trade deadline next year and trade one to a desperate contender then.

That's a huge gamble, unless the Yankees are already in talks with some team, for Britton or Chapman.

I agree that i was definately wondering if they would pick up his option considering they could probably get 3 good relievers this winter for the amount he's making. I think the reason the couldn't take a chance on losing him though because he was clearly our best reliever this yr and an excellent closer option if Chapman doesn't workout or gets hurt.

I honestly don't know what picking up his option means for this off season. It could mean they aren't quite as poor as they are claiming to be or that they are going to go with the most simple options available to complete the team for next yr. I really think they have to think outside the box this winter to try and acquire the kinda players we need

The biggest problem i can see right away is, if they are in fact staying within a budget, keeping britton won't allow them to overhaul their bullpen, or getting 1 or 2 arms for the rotation. A bullpen of lasagna, green, ottovino, holder coming into high leverage situations, in the post season is just not going to cut it. That's on top of the issues we have with Chapman. As for the rotation, there isn't a single starter outside of Cole, which can reliably pitch 150 innings or more. If the yankees are going to spend, then this won't be an issue.

[dayners81]

I would prefer Brantley over gardy as well.

But where does Brantley play.

Have to assume

Frazier LF
Hicks CF
Judge RF
Stanton DH

I'm not sure Brantley would want to be the 4th outfielder.

Unless they go and trade clint.

(Obviously Judge and Hicks will spend time on the DL, par for the course)

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i think Clint maybe trade bait to get the TORP they need but even if he's not i think we could still get Brantley 400+ Abs. He can play the corners in the OF,play a little 1st base and DH. With Gardy gone and the inevitability of Judge and Stanton missing significant time i absolutely think there is more than a 4th OFers role.

He reminds he so much of DJ with the way he make contact and doesn't k alot, plus he;s LHed which we desperately need in that lineup. He has great pull side power and could easily see his power numbers go up without seeing his avg and K's change. He could absolutely pepper that short porch and breakup all the RHed power hitters in our lineup

[dayners81]

That's a huge gamble, unless the Yankees are already in talks with some team, for Britton or Chapman.




The biggest problem i can see right away is, if they are in fact staying within a budget, keeping britton won't allow them to overhaul their bullpen, or getting 1 or 2 arms for the rotation. A bullpen of lasagna, green, ottovino, holder coming into high leverage situations, in the post season is just not going to cut it. That's on top of the issues we have with Chapman. As for the rotation, there isn't a single starter outside of Cole, which can reliably pitch 150 innings or more. If the yankees are going to spend, then this won't be an issue.

I completely agree about Chappy and Britton. I just don't see the Yanks selling mid season unless they start the rebuild this winter. I also doubt any teams will to pick up Chapmans 16m salary or Brits 13m when they could get guys like Hand and Yates for half the price.


I also agree with you if the don't spend by picking up Brittons option they are going to have a very difficult time resigning DJ as well as retooling the pitching staff. At minimum, to compete against the Dodgers and Rays who both stand to get better next yr, they need a #2 starter and atleast 1 preferably 2 BP arm and resign DJ. They also will have to get huge contributions from Sevy, German and the kids coming up from the farm

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Just 1 in last 20 years is just as bad.

32 > 20 last I checked.

[dayners81]

Wow the Cards non tendered Kolten Wong. I think we're going to see alot more of those non tender situations happen in the coming days that are going to surprise us.

Wong wouldn't be a bad replacement for DJ if we are unable to resign him. Wong is a GG, high contact bat. It's going to be interesting to see who else gets non tendered

Hearing Kahnle is almost 99% non tendered guarantee and Sanchez is also being tossed around as a possibility

[dayners81]

My perfect additions to the pen would be Liam Hendricks and Brad Hand and take a flier on Aaron Sanchez as a BP project

More likely they opt for someone like Alex Colome or Ken Giles and some other cheap pick up.

I spoke to my source tonight and he said that from what he's hearing from inside, is that Hal allowing them to pick up Brittons option is a signal that he's going to be willing to spend within reason.

He also said that they have gaged Voits trade value and considering the last 2yrs what he's done at the plate and that he's not a FA until after the 25 season his value in this market is extremely high. They feel the return they could get for him is at an all time high and they may look to capitalize on his value

He also said Hal really doesn't want German back because of his actions but they are getting lots of calls on him. He said trading German and Voit for another TORP is a realistic possibility. If German comes back don't expect him to be guaranteed a rotation spot, he'll have to earn that back according to him.

He also said that they are going to try everything they can to sign DJ back before he officially hits the market but the later it goes into the off season the less likely it will be that they resign him. If they can't sign him right away expect a QO to protect themselves a bit if he leaves.

He also said upper management and Hal are still doing their internal evaluations on the available starting pitching both on the FA and trade market possibilities. Other than trying to get Tanaka back on a realistic deal he says he has gotten zero info on the direction of the pitching staff for next yr.

He also said from what he has been hearing/ has been told that for the right combo of players Hal is more likely to ok going into the 2nd tier of the luxury tax than basically staying almost the same and risking not being anymore competitive than this yr.

As always take the inside info for whatever its worth to u. No guarantees just a very long time, accurate source

[Posada20]

Nothing from your source about sanchez or andujar?

[PJO34]

He also said from what he has been hearing/ has been told that for the right combo of players Hal is more likely to ok going into the 2nd tier of the luxury tax than basically staying almost the same and risking not being anymore competitive than this yr.

As always take the inside info for whatever its worth to u. No guarantees just a very long time, accurate source

This makes sense to me considering the pressure the Yankees must feel to win at least one WS with this core which means they have two more years to do so. This year, when the Yankees can most utilize their competitive advantage (i.e. their money) and since so many other teams will be the austerity route, the Yankees may be able to get some good bargains and stock the team with enough talent to make them the favorites to win.

If other teams are going to shed payroll, the Yankees should take advantage for the next two years, and then reset the LT after the 2022 season after (I hope) they win the next two WS. Wouldn't that be nice? I mean they have the money and two championships would pay off for years to come. This is not the time to be cheap.

[Kinkotheclown]

I would prefer Brantley over gardy as well.

But where does Brantley play.

Have to assume

Frazier LF
Hicks CF
Judge RF
Stanton DH

I'm not sure Brantley would want to be the 4th outfielder.

Unless they go and trade clint.

(Obviously Judge and Hicks will spend time on the DL, par for the course)

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I don't know. Brantley may decide he would be the 4rth OF because we know
Hicks , Judge and Stanton will all be injured enough that Brantley will still get play in 120+ games.