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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
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    Yasiel Puig is drawing interest from multiple teams, per sources. Red Sox, Yankees, Astros, Marlins and Orioles appear to have varying levels of interest.

    Huh?


    If they sign that guy then just trade Clint Frazier. That would tell us that Cash doesnít trust Frazier and will never so just move him Brian!
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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    If you use Twitter:

    https://twitter.com/YtNextGenGaming

    https://twitter.com/PS5StockAlerts

    https://twitter.com/ps5stockdrop

    Use those handles and they will update you on any stock that comes in. I got lucky about a month ago and ran into like a 7am sale on Best buy's website.

    The system is great but not a ton of games for it yet. I've been playing Demon Souls and some NBA 2K21.

    Iíll check those out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Imo, Sevy and German collectively > any available arm. I also think they resign Tanaka to a team friendly deal.
    I agree with you about Sevy and German. My only concern is we may not see them at their best till 22. I do think they will have a big impact on the rotation in 21 though

    It's really not a stretch to think with guys like Garcia (if his body can handle a starter workload) Schmidt, Medina, Gil, Vizcaino, Contreras and others that are coming quickly that German and Monty will probably have to pitch pretty well in 21 to guarantee a spot in 22

    I talked to my scout buddy and he said that everyone is on fire about Gil, Medina and Contreras right now. They all apparently took huge steps forward last yr. Medina upped his spin rates across the board, grew 2 inches and put on about 20lbs. He said that Medina was regularly sitting 99+ touching 103 in the mid innings, he also ditched his circle change in favor of a straight change with a strong splitting action that he throws 90-92, the CB is the same plus-plus hammer its been since he was 16. He also said all the info he's seen and heard is that the release point/ control was very consistent all last yr at the ALT site. He said the feeling with the scouts he's talked to, they believe if Medina reaches his ceiling he could be one of the better pitchers in baseball. Scouts absolutely, love his athleticism, work ethic and his mound presence. He said the only thing that he's missing is getting live reps and he could easily be ready at some point in 21

    He said the only reason that we aren't hearing as much about Gil is because Medina has been that impressive. Even though Gil doesn't have quite the velo Medina does, he still sits 97-99 and has touched 101, scouts like his FB about a half grade above Medina because of the great riding action he gets on his 4 seam and he throws the heaviest 2 seam in the system. The CU is a plus Circle change that he gets really good depth and fade with. He said the SL has huge potential in the high 80's , low 90's, while he's controlling it well he's still trying to improve the shape. He is another one that he described as a baseball rat, first one at the gym in the morning, always trying to do and learn anything to get better, incredibly coachable. Apparently he has a chip on his shoulder because he was a pretty low dollar IFA signee and he's out to prove everyone wrong. He's another one that needs some more live reps but could impact the team in 21

    the one the he really was excited about was Contreras. He feel Contreras is one of the better kept secrets around . He doesn't have close to the power stuff that Medina and Gil do but he has remarkable command/control and a great feel for pitching at a pretty young age. He gave a Carrasco type pitcher as a comp and he said most scouts/evaluators feel he's one of the safer bets to reach his ceiling. He throws his FB's in the 92-95 range touching 98 with his 4 seam, with great life and excellent command. He has one of the better CB in the system, just behind Schmidt and a Circle CU that is consistently plus or better.

    He said in his opinion, especially ceiling wise he feels that those are our top 3 pitching specs. He said that Garcia and Schmidt are excellent pitching specs but they just don't have the ceiling ot the top 3

    I asked him if these were just going to be another group of really talented pitching specs that we weren't going to be able to develop like so many others. He said he believes the development culture around our pitching has changed a great deal and he feels that were going to see that reflected in this group of specs. With as excited as my buddy is about these guys am going to be extremely hopeful that some special arms are coming

    I'm not in anyway trying to say these guys will fix our rotation issues right out of the gate but this scout has been doing this for a very long time and is extremely high on these 3 guys and a couple other arms in the system. I would say that while were along way from having a great rotation we have the talent thats not to far away that we could end up with a great rotation and atleast its something to be excited about going forward

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones View Post
    I love him. But Frazier is worthless on the trade market unless you trade him for prospects to a team that is win now. He's ARB 1.
    thats truly a bafflingly statement. He has an incredible amount of value. He's a 26 yr old, GG caliber LFer that has a middle of the lineup bat and still has 4yrs? of control left. Just because a player become ARB eligible hardly means they are worthless when they are young and have shown huge potential. Outside of Torres and Dominguez, Frazier is probably our most valuable trade chip and could easily headline a deal for a marque player

    KJ your sources got that one really wrong.... you may need to upgrade from the cleaning lady or was it a waitress ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Day I completely agree on Puig. The "Huh?" was my comment not Feinsand. I agree, imo, Gardy is a better glove even at his age.

    I appreciate your Gil endorsement. I felt similarly, hearing f it from you confirms my initial reaction.

    Doc and Day, I love you guys but I fully disagree about Puig. I think you guys are totally off base on this one.
    He is exactly what this team needs. He's an injury prone, righty power bat with a massive K rate who plays suspect D and has character issues. He's perfect.
    This team needs a guy like that. We don't have anyone else who fits that bill



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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    thats truly a bafflingly statement. He has an incredible amount of value. He's a 26 yr old, GG caliber LFer that has a middle of the lineup bat and still has 4yrs? of control left. Just because a player become ARB eligible hardly means they are worthless when they are young and have shown huge potential. Outside of Torres and Dominguez, Frazier is probably our most valuable trade chip and could easily headline a deal for a marque player

    KJ your sources got that one really wrong.... you may need to upgrade from the cleaning lady or was it a waitress ??
    I've seen some weird comments but Frazier has no value? Wow.



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    Dayners, thanks for the update from Scout buddy on the pitching. It's encouraging. I'm not as high on Frazier as you are and I have no problem trading him in the right deal for pitching or a Lindor type deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jones View Post
    I love him. But Frazier is worthless on the trade market unless you trade him for prospects to a team that is win now. He's ARB 1.
    Seriously? I think it's best you sleep it off.


    Sell the Team, HAL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi View Post
    Dayners, thanks for the update from Scout buddy on the pitching. It's encouraging. I'm not as high on Frazier as you are and I have no problem trading him in the right deal for pitching or a Lindor type deal.
    I'm a 100% with you i'd gladly include Frazier for Lindor or the right player/pitcher. I would have actually made that offer for Lindor by now as long as Hal would green light re signing him. In this winter's market i don't think it would be that difficult or expensive to find a solid defensive OFer that would put up offensive numbers you could live with. If it meant getting Lindor or a legit TORP by trading Frazier I'd make that deal all day. U could go get a Brock Holt, Joc Pederson, Eddie Rosario Or Almora type on a 1yr deal and pair that with Andujar out there a couple times a week. Another thought is if they really wanted to go young and cheap they could go with a Florial/ Andujar platoon. It could be a better team and use of assets but its just a thought

    Canaan Smith is an incredibly talented corner OF hitting spec, who could surprise people next yr and the list of tool shed, uber talented OF specs we have in A Ball and lower is 7-10 specs deep. Point being we have some very special OF talent that isn't to far away. IMO, while i certainly wouldn't give Frazier away, if i got the right talent back i would also move him

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Seriously? I think it's best you sleep it off.
    Sleep won't help that

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    Agree Day. In the right deal Frazier is expendable. BUT....I don't believe he's worthless and should be traded for the sake of moving him, particularly for specs. As I mentioned previously, imo Frazier could be the headliner in many deals, e.g. Castillo, Lindor ect.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    Sleep won't help that


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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    Sleep won't help that
    Moooaaarrr. Sauces! That will help



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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Agree Day. In the right deal Frazier is expendable. BUT....I don't believe he's worthless and should be traded for the sake of moving him, particularly for specs. As I mentioned previously, imo Frazier could be the headliner in many deals, e.g. Castillo, Lindor ect.
    If they move Frazier it should only be for a TORP or a guy like Lindor.



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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    I agree with you about Sevy and German. My only concern is we may not see them at their best till 22. I do think they will have a big impact on the rotation in 21 though

    It's really not a stretch to think with guys like Garcia (if his body can handle a starter workload) Schmidt, Medina, Gil, Vizcaino, Contreras and others that are coming quickly that German and Monty will probably have to pitch pretty well in 21 to guarantee a spot in 22

    I talked to my scout buddy and he said that everyone is on fire about Gil, Medina and Contreras right now. They all apparently took huge steps forward last yr. Medina upped his spin rates across the board, grew 2 inches and put on about 20lbs. He said that Medina was regularly sitting 99+ touching 103 in the mid innings, he also ditched his circle change in favor of a straight change with a strong splitting action that he throws 90-92, the CB is the same plus-plus hammer its been since he was 16. He also said all the info he's seen and heard is that the release point/ control was very consistent all last yr at the ALT site. He said the feeling with the scouts he's talked to, they believe if Medina reaches his ceiling he could be one of the better pitchers in baseball. Scouts absolutely, love his athleticism, work ethic and his mound presence. He said the only thing that he's missing is getting live reps and he could easily be ready at some point in 21

    He said the only reason that we aren't hearing as much about Gil is because Medina has been that impressive. Even though Gil doesn't have quite the velo Medina does, he still sits 97-99 and has touched 101, scouts like his FB about a half grade above Medina because of the great riding action he gets on his 4 seam and he throws the heaviest 2 seam in the system. The CU is a plus Circle change that he gets really good depth and fade with. He said the SL has huge potential in the high 80's , low 90's, while he's controlling it well he's still trying to improve the shape. He is another one that he described as a baseball rat, first one at the gym in the morning, always trying to do and learn anything to get better, incredibly coachable. Apparently he has a chip on his shoulder because he was a pretty low dollar IFA signee and he's out to prove everyone wrong. He's another one that needs some more live reps but could impact the team in 21

    the one the he really was excited about was Contreras. He feel Contreras is one of the better kept secrets around . He doesn't have close to the power stuff that Medina and Gil do but he has remarkable command/control and a great feel for pitching at a pretty young age. He gave a Carrasco type pitcher as a comp and he said most scouts/evaluators feel he's one of the safer bets to reach his ceiling. He throws his FB's in the 92-95 range touching 98 with his 4 seam, with great life and excellent command. He has one of the better CB in the system, just behind Schmidt and a Circle CU that is consistently plus or better.

    He said in his opinion, especially ceiling wise he feels that those are our top 3 pitching specs. He said that Garcia and Schmidt are excellent pitching specs but they just don't have the ceiling ot the top 3

    I asked him if these were just going to be another group of really talented pitching specs that we weren't going to be able to develop like so many others. He said he believes the development culture around our pitching has changed a great deal and he feels that were going to see that reflected in this group of specs. With as excited as my buddy is about these guys am going to be extremely hopeful that some special arms are coming

    I'm not in anyway trying to say these guys will fix our rotation issues right out of the gate but this scout has been doing this for a very long time and is extremely high on these 3 guys and a couple other arms in the system. I would say that while were along way from having a great rotation we have the talent thats not to far away that we could end up with a great rotation and atleast its something to be excited about going forward
    Just one question if you donít feel German and sevy will be at their best this season then how could they have a big impact on the rotation this season ? Especially with sevy having restrictions on his starts ? Now I can believe they both could have big impacts next season though , especially sevy. I just am not convinced it happens this season. In fact I think there is a better chance of Medina having a big impact on the rotation this season than sevy and German do .
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