Yankee off season thread, news, notes, rumors and ideas

[Kinkotheclown]

Don't forget they already lost Morton as well. That two huge blows to an already thin rotation.

Totally spaced on Morton. Yeah, the Rays are basically flipping off their fans if they are just having a fire sale.
Maybe they have another plan yet to be disclosed.

[PJO34]

You mention all these teams that did nothing. You do realize it's only DECEMBER. Still plenty of time for plenty of deals. Good and plenty. :}

True. Unfortunately I do not have high level sources like KJ and I cannot see the future like Eeyore so I am limited to what is knowable now.

[IceHawk-181]

In one day the Padres are going to secure 2 front end pitchers and a talented young infielder for prospects and a low AAV outlay....and we could not do this because????

Oh right, the NYY are poor.

[spliff(TONE)]

I am surprised the Padres are being so aggressive since even with snell they still can’t get past the dodgers . And as for cashman I said that 2 months ago . I don’t expect him to do anything substantial anymore . Not since the 2018 off season.

Snell ain't the only move they've made. Regardless, you don't just give up because there's another team in the division that looks to be superior on paper. So much can happen over the course of a season and it's not always the team that looks best preseason that hoists the championship trophy at the end of the year.

[Jones]

Kind of my line of thinking as well. If the Pads got him for a top 20 spec, a former top 20 spec that can’t seem to hit at the major league level (to the point the Pads went out and traded for another catcher at the deadline) and didn’t have a position with his former club and two lottery tickets, how much more would Castillo really cost? Garcia, Miggy, and 2-3 lotto tickets?

Miggy’s value is low and lots of teams don’t place much value on Garcia’s makeup. You want Castillo, it’s gonna take Dominguez, Medina, Gil and lottery ticket.

[Jones]

In one day the Padres are going to secure 2 front end pitchers and a talented young infielder for prospects and a low AAV outlay....and we could not do this because????

Oh right, the NYY are poor.

Padres wanna win. White Sox wanna win. Jays wanna win. They may fail but they are attempting to go all in. Yankees have not done that with this core. The staff surrounding Cole is a complete embarrassment. Besides Bauer and Castillo (neither of which I believe is possible), who else is available? I think it’s time to consider a GM change. Let’s get someone younger that isn’t satisfied with just making the playoffs.

[OhSoSlick]

Padres wanna win. White Sox wanna win. Jays wanna win. They may fail but they are attempting to go all in. Yankees have not done that with this core. The staff surrounding Cole is a complete embarrassment. Besides Bauer and Castillo (neither of which I believe is possible), who else is available? I think it’s time to consider a GM change. Let’s get someone younger that isn’t satisfied with just making the playoffs.

KJ!!

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[OhSoSlick]

Miggy’s value is low and lots of teams don’t place much value on Garcia’s makeup. You want Castillo, it’s gonna take Dominguez, Medina, Gil and lottery ticket.

Kj, did your sauce tell you this?

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[OhSoSlick]

I would like to go on the record tho and say I think snell is over rated as ****.

From 2016-2020 he pitched over 130 innings one time(180ish to be exact)

He just doesn't go deep, into games, either.

Think the Rays got a good haul for a 5 Inning pitcher.

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[Posada20]

Padres wanna win. White Sox wanna win. Jays wanna win. They may fail but they are attempting to go all in. Yankees have not done that with this core. The staff surrounding Cole is a complete embarrassment. Besides Bauer and Castillo (neither of which I believe is possible), who else is available? I think it’s time to consider a GM change. Let’s get someone younger that isn’t satisfied with just making the playoffs.

Cashman and Hal never cared about winning a World Series , atleast not since 09 . They only care about putting a “ competitive “ team out there . And now are not even doing that . It’s a sad day when the Yankees are now being run like the mets were and the mets are being run like the Yankees used to be . Cashman will always be the GM until he doesn’t want to anymore . Why? Because again hal doesn’t give a crap anymore . He just wants to put as money in his and his fellow owners pockets as he can .

[Posada20]

In one day the Padres are going to secure 2 front end pitchers and a talented young infielder for prospects and a low AAV outlay....and we could not do this because????

Oh right, the NYY are poor.

More like poorly run . How else do you explain their constant rewarding of failure ?

[drt1010]

Miggy’s value is low and lots of teams don’t place much value on Garcia’s makeup. You want Castillo, it’s gonna take Dominguez, Medina, Gil and lottery ticket.

Why? Why should Castillo cost substantially more than a Cy Young winner? What exactly did the Rays get?

Patino is the closest thing the Rays' return has to a "centerpiece." He spent most of the season in the majors, working an ineffectual 11 appearances. Patino is a quality athlete who averaged 97 mph on his heater and who generated nearly 50 percent whiffs with his slider during his big-league outings. He's on the smaller side, however, and he needs to continue to develop his changeup and his command if he wants to remain in a starting role long-term. The Rays have a history of suppressing their best players' service time; in Patino's case, it seems reasonable to think he could stand for more seasoning: coming into 2020, he'd appeared in just two games above the A-ball level.

Mejia is the closest thing the Rays' return has to a "veteran." He's accrued more than two years of service to date, putting him a season away from reaching arbitration. There have long been concerns that Mejia is too small to handle a full workload behind the dish (he's listed at 5-foot-8, 188 pounds); it doesn't help his case that he graded as a below-average framer prior to an uptick in 2020 that could be a small-sample mirage. The Rays could have him try his hand at another position -- perhaps DH if they find a taker for Yoshi Tsutsugo -- as a means of freeing up his bat. The downside is that Mejia hasn't hit much as a big-league player: his career line is .225/.282/.386 (78 OPS+) through his first 362 plate appearances. He has been better against righties, at least.

Wilcox, San Diego's third-round pick this year, hasn't yet made his professional debut. The Padres pried him away from returning to the University of Georgia by handing him a signing bonus exceeding $3 million. Wilcox has a starter's frame and a good slider, but some evaluators feel he's likely to end up in the bullpen -- where, to be fair, he could sink and slide his way into a high-leverage role.

Then there's Hunt, the Padres' second-round pick in 2017, who is the inverse of Mejia in the sense that he's larger than the standard backstop (6-foot-3, 215 pounds). Hunt had been a better-than-average hitter in each of the past two seasons, and that was before he altered his swing this year. Depending on if that change will allow him to tap into more raw power once the minors resume, he could be one worth watching.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/b...t-not-be-done/

[Posada20]

I agree the rays really got robbed there imo . A guy like snell should net one player that’s in the majors. And if the Padres can get snell for that , then the Yankees should be able to get Castillo at a reasonable price .

[johnny ny]

I agree the rays really got robbed there imo . A guy like snell should net one player that’s in the majors. And if the Padres can get snell for that , then the Yankees should be able to get Castillo at a reasonable price .

when covid is contained by this fall.. 2021 off season the yanks will make big moves since fans will be allowed full attendance in the 2022 season.. you just have to wait a year ..

[RJYANKS12]

Why? Why should Castillo cost substantially more than a Cy Young winner? What exactly did the Rays get?

Patino is the closest thing the Rays' return has to a "centerpiece." He spent most of the season in the majors, working an ineffectual 11 appearances. Patino is a quality athlete who averaged 97 mph on his heater and who generated nearly 50 percent whiffs with his slider during his big-league outings. He's on the smaller side, however, and he needs to continue to develop his changeup and his command if he wants to remain in a starting role long-term. The Rays have a history of suppressing their best players' service time; in Patino's case, it seems reasonable to think he could stand for more seasoning: coming into 2020, he'd appeared in just two games above the A-ball level.

Mejia is the closest thing the Rays' return has to a "veteran." He's accrued more than two years of service to date, putting him a season away from reaching arbitration. There have long been concerns that Mejia is too small to handle a full workload behind the dish (he's listed at 5-foot-8, 188 pounds); it doesn't help his case that he graded as a below-average framer prior to an uptick in 2020 that could be a small-sample mirage. The Rays could have him try his hand at another position -- perhaps DH if they find a taker for Yoshi Tsutsugo -- as a means of freeing up his bat. The downside is that Mejia hasn't hit much as a big-league player: his career line is .225/.282/.386 (78 OPS+) through his first 362 plate appearances. He has been better against righties, at least.

Wilcox, San Diego's third-round pick this year, hasn't yet made his professional debut. The Padres pried him away from returning to the University of Georgia by handing him a signing bonus exceeding $3 million. Wilcox has a starter's frame and a good slider, but some evaluators feel he's likely to end up in the bullpen -- where, to be fair, he could sink and slide his way into a high-leverage role.

Then there's Hunt, the Padres' second-round pick in 2017, who is the inverse of Mejia in the sense that he's larger than the standard backstop (6-foot-3, 215 pounds). Hunt had been a better-than-average hitter in each of the past two seasons, and that was before he altered his swing this year. Depending on if that change will allow him to tap into more raw power once the minors resume, he could be one worth watching.

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/b...t-not-be-done/

Exactly my point. Digging a little deeper into the trade, how can someone say it would take something significantly more than Garcia (or Schmidt), Miggy and 2 to 3 lotto tix?