Yankee off season thread, news, notes, rumors and ideas

[dayners81]

We'll boys it the off season, again. Cashman has alot of work this winter with potentially losing Tanaka, Paxton and Happ. How much BP help do we need?

Priority one has to be resign DJ

Would you guys mess with the lineup? who goes, who stays and who do we try and acquire

[Posada20]

I know what cashman is gonna do . He will resign Tanaka , possibly bring back paxton because of his love of injury prone players , then bring back DJ and then trade for a reliever and call it an off season.

What I want them to do is rebuild the starting rotation around cole , get a good reliever , get rid of Sanchez and sign realmuto and then resign dj . But I know that won’t happen

[johnny ny]

resign dj get rid of gary either judge and stanton has to go along with voit this all or nothing lineup will never win you anything.. sign brantley.. get a star pitcher get some bullpen help make britton the closer.. chapman has lost the last 2 elimination games for the yanks..if the same lineup comes back i will not watch this team next year

[Posada20]

resign dj get rid of gary either judge and stanton has to go along with voit this all or nothing lineup will never win you anything.. sign brantley.. get a star pitcher get some bullpen help make britton the closer.. chapman has lost the last 2 elimination games for the yanks..if the same lineup comes back i will not watch this team next year

They are stuck with Chapman but they can get rid of the guy who caught him when he blew it these last two seasons

[OhSoSlick]

resign dj get rid of gary either judge and stanton has to go along with voit this all or nothing lineup will never win you anything.. sign brantley.. get a star pitcher get some bullpen help make britton the closer.. chapman has lost the last 2 elimination games for the yanks..if the same lineup comes back i will not watch this team next year

Will you actually keep your word this time?

Last time you said this was if the yanks didn't sign Machado or harper you wouldn't be here nor watch. Yet, they signed neither and you were still watching, still here making asinine statements and doing a wonderful job of contradicting yourself.

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[sauronthepower]

Failure to work counts deep (thereby forcing opposing pitchers to play on your terms as opposed to dictating them)--check.

Getting bushwhacked yet again by a compromised pitcher (I mean Glasnow just did 3 innings on 2 days rest one year after a season ending injury)--check

According any sort of relevance to a bunch of dorito swilling, neckbeard geeks that dictate your gameplan -- check

Failure to capitalize on offensive opportunities with inconsistent, aggressive overswinging (or in Stanton's case, non-swinging) -- check

Systemic organizational failure from the top down to engender anything that bears any sort of semblance to heart -- check.

We might as well be discussing Paul Byrd shutting us down 15 years ago because we've learned nothing as an organization in pressure games since then.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

[sauronthepower]

And please.........don't worry.........Boone and Cashman will get plenty more opportunities to further tarnish this once proud organization as no one here is ever truly held to account.

[OhSoSlick]

Failure to work counts deep (thereby forcing opposing pitchers to play on your terms as opposed to dictating them)--check.

Getting bushwhacked yet again by a compromised pitcher (I mean Glasnow just did 3 innings on 2 days rest one year after a season ending injury)--check

According any sort of relevance to a bunch of dorito swilling, neckbeard geeks that dictate your gameplan -- check

Failure to capitalize on offensive opportunities with inconsistent, aggressive overswinging (or in Stanton's case, non-swinging) -- check

Systemic organizational failure from the top down to engender anything that bears any sort of semblance to heart -- check.

We might as well be discussing Paul Byrd shutting us down 15 years ago because we've learned nothing as an organization in pressure games since then.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

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[Posada20]

And please.........don't worry.........Boone and Cashman will get plenty more opportunities to further tarnish this once proud organization as no one here is ever truly held to account.

That is precisely why I don’t expect the front office to do much this off season other than what I listed before .

One thing you left out in that previous post was the debacle that was game 2 . That was just inexcusable

[johnny ny]

Will you actually keep your word this time?

Last time you said this was if the yanks didn't sign Machado or harper you wouldn't be here nor watch. Yet, they signed neither and you were still watching, still here making asinine statements and doing a wonderful job of contradicting yourself.

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i said for a month i would be off this board and i kept my promise...

[Jones]

Tonight the better team won. To me, the window on this yankee team, as currently constituted, is over. They are tired, just like the Cubs and will be future prey to the MLB elite (dodgers) and young teams that are coming up fast (Rays, A's, Braves, Padres, White Sox). The good news, however, is that we don't need to rebuild. We have tons of money coming off, young assets that can be moved to fill holes, and the best starter in the AL. We just need to have the courage to make some tough decisions. Here's what I would do:

INFIELD:
A. Dump Sanchez. Can't hit or field. Give the job to Higgy and just get a veteran back-up. Realmuto is clearly the best catcher in baseball, but he's gonna be expensive and our money can be better served elsewhere. Catchers just don't hold up well after 30.

B. Get DJ extended immediately. I'd move him back to a role where he is rotating around the infield.

C. Move Torres back to 2B. He doesn't have the arm or quickness for SS. Move assets and go all in on Lindor.

OUTFIELD:
A. Gardy's gone and Frazier finally gets his moment to shine.

B. Move Judge and let Stanton play RF. These two guys can't be on the same team. Injury prone. Strike out prone. Not expected to age well. I'd certainly try to move Stanton first, but I think that's going to be impossible. His contract, injury history and no trade clause are just too restrictive.

STARTING PITCHING:
A. Sign Bauer. He's the best on the market and a legit top of the rotation guy. I know Cole hates the guy, but he's just going to have to accept it to win.

B. I'd be okay with rounding the rotation out with some combination of Monty, German, Deivi, King, or Schmidt until Sevy comes back in the second half.

BULLPEN:
A. Ottovino needs to be moved and replaced with a new high leverage righty. He just walks too many guys and can't be trusted when it counts.

B. We need 2 hard throwing guys that can consistently pitch multiple inning to go along with Green. Kaynle won't be back next year.

C. I'd be fine with filling the remaining two low leverage spots with some combination of King, Cessa, Loggy, Holder, Heller, etc. Guys with options.

[Jones]

Brantley is definitely the type of hitter we need. But, at 34 next year and coming from the Astros, I'm hesitant. I'm okay with Frazier in LF. Maybe he'd be willing to DH with a part time OF role?

Even better, maybe we can get a hitting coach that teaches these guys situational hitting and how to slap the outside breaking ball to the opposite field?

[Posada20]

Tonight the better team won. To me, the window on this yankee team, as currently constituted, is over. They are tired, just like the Cubs and will be future prey to the MLB elite (dodgers) and young teams that are coming up fast (Rays, A's, Braves, Padres, White Sox). The good news, however, is that we don't need to rebuild. We have tons of money coming off, young assets that can be moved to fill holes, and the best starter in the AL. We just need to have the courage to make some tough decisions. Here's what I would do:

INFIELD:
A. Dump Sanchez. Can't hit or field. Give the job to Higgy and just get a veteran back-up. Realmuto is clearly the best catcher in baseball, but he's gonna be expensive and our money can be better served elsewhere. Catchers just don't hold up well after 30.

B. Get DJ extended immediately. I'd move him back to a role where he is rotating around the infield.

C. Move Torres back to 2B. He doesn't have the arm or quickness for SS. Move assets and go all in on Lindor.

OUTFIELD:
A. Gardy's gone and Frazier finally gets his moment to shine.

B. Move Judge and let Stanton play RF. These two guys can't be on the same team. Injury prone. Strike out prone. Not expected to age well. I'd certainly try to move Stanton first, but I think that's going to be impossible. His contract, injury history and no trade clause are just too restrictive.

STARTING PITCHING:
A. Sign Bauer. He's the best on the market and a legit top of the rotation guy. I know Cole hates the guy, but he's just going to have to accept it to win.

B. I'd be okay with rounding the rotation out with some combination of Monty, German, Deivi, King, or Schmidt until Sevy comes back in the second half.

BULLPEN:
A. Ottovino needs to be moved and replaced with a new high leverage righty. He just walks too many guys and can't be trusted when it counts.

B. We need 2 hard throwing guys that can consistently pitch multiple inning to go along with Green. Kaynle won't be back next year.

C. I'd be fine with filling the remaining two low leverage spots with some combination of King, Cessa, Loggy, Holder, Heller, etc. Guys with options.

Agreed with everything said here . The window is closing quickly on the Yankees to win a ws and if drastic moves aren’t made I fear the window will close for a long time . But unfortunately I don’t have the faith in the front office to do such moves and therefore wouldn’t be surprised if this team misses the playoffs in a couple years .

[sauronthepower]

Tonight the better team won. To me, the window on this yankee team, as currently constituted, is over. They are tired, just like the Cubs and will be future prey to the MLB elite (dodgers) and young teams that are coming up fast (Rays, A's, Braves, Padres, White Sox). The good news, however, is that we don't need to rebuild. We have tons of money coming off, young assets that can be moved to fill holes, and the best starter in the AL. We just need to have the courage to make some tough decisions. Here's what I would do:

INFIELD:
A. Dump Sanchez. Can't hit or field. Give the job to Higgy and just get a veteran back-up. Realmuto is clearly the best catcher in baseball, but he's gonna be expensive and our money can be better served elsewhere. Catchers just don't hold up well after 30.

B. Get DJ extended immediately. I'd move him back to a role where he is rotating around the infield.

C. Move Torres back to 2B. He doesn't have the arm or quickness for SS. Move assets and go all in on Lindor.

OUTFIELD:
A. Gardy's gone and Frazier finally gets his moment to shine.

B. Move Judge and let Stanton play RF. These two guys can't be on the same team. Injury prone. Strike out prone. Not expected to age well. I'd certainly try to move Stanton first, but I think that's going to be impossible. His contract, injury history and no trade clause are just too restrictive.

STARTING PITCHING:
A. Sign Bauer. He's the best on the market and a legit top of the rotation guy. I know Cole hates the guy, but he's just going to have to accept it to win.

B. I'd be okay with rounding the rotation out with some combination of Monty, German, Deivi, King, or Schmidt until Sevy comes back in the second half.

BULLPEN:
A. Ottovino needs to be moved and replaced with a new high leverage righty. He just walks too many guys and can't be trusted when it counts.

B. We need 2 hard throwing guys that can consistently pitch multiple inning to go along with Green. Kaynle won't be back next year.

C. I'd be fine with filling the remaining two low leverage spots with some combination of King, Cessa, Loggy, Holder, Heller, etc. Guys with options.

I like a lot of this.

My own take on it would be:

We have at least 88 mil coming off the books and a ‘deadpool’ of surplus talent/prospects with no path forward on this team.

Gary, Andujar, Florial, Abreu, Schmidt, Ford, King, Tauchman, and even Clint and Voit can all be used in aome capacity to engender MEANINGFUL (Brian Cashman doesn’t know the meaning of the word) negotiations.

1) Sign Bauer
2) Sign a lower cost, reliably consistent #3. Tanaka is done. He has now pitched three consecutive sub-5 inning starts in clutch October games going back to last year’s Minnesota stop where the old Tanaka was needed most and utterly failed to materialize. You mentioned Brantley above. Think of that type of talent in a starting pitching role.
3) Sign/acquire Hader immediately. Need a new version of Miller/Dellin to ease the quantitative burden on Chapstick and Britton. I’d even entertain using him in the 9th in these high leverage, must-have games where Chapman has failed two years in a row.
4) seriously explore Lindor. A high contact/high production talent akin to what we have in DJ and potentially have in Torres who can field his position and allows you to return Torres to his more comfortable position. Use the above mentioned ‘deadpool’ of surplus talent to put together a SERIOUS package and not some typical Cashman half-arsed attempt to appear cute and svelte.
5) resign/lockup DJ immediately
6) unload Ottovino. Experiment failed.
7) rotation: Cole, Bauer, #3, Deivi, Monty
8) bullpen: Greene, Kahnle, Severino as your mid-stopper crew. Britton, Hader, Chapman as your power late innings crew.
9) fire Boone before the plane leaves San Diego
10) fire Cashman before the end of the World Series before negotiations begin.

[rrzubnyy]

Just fire Boone and replace him with Buck! And let HIM manage, not goddamn analytics. It obviously doesn’t work. Look at Billy Beane and now Cashman. They have like over 30 postseason teams combined and only 1 WS win.

I’m telling that is all we need with this roster is a real manager.


Not a puppet who makes $1 million per.

Getting Boone was all about money. Well, how is that working out Cashman?

Give Buck a 3 yer deal. 3/15