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  1. #3811
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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Luke Voit on Domingo Germán: "We have his back but he's skating on thin ice and needs to get his life together."

    https://twitter.com/MaxTGoodman/stat...920715778?s=19
    I really like Voit's leadership. He is growing in that aspect. He's got that same blue collar quality Gardner has but he's more vocal. I give Cash credit for giving him a shot. I hope he continues to improve in all areas of the game.



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    I am not going to defend German's actions, because they are reprehensible. However, the time to cut him loose was when it happened and we don't have all the facts or the result of the investigation. We just know that the outcome was an angry man who slapped his wife.

    Suppose she was drunk and started to talk penis size, dissing his mother and his ancestry, calling him the n-word and he just found out that she slept with his brother or another teammate, would that change your mind, even a little bit. Sounds far-fetched, I know, but all things are possible.

    The point is that the Yankees made a decision a year and a half ago to counsel him and rehabilitate him and keep him gainfully employed. Now that he lost a year plus in earnings and did everything they asked of him, should we now say that he's not worth a second chance. There are people guilty of sexual assault or accused of murder playing professional sports, who IMO are far worse than someone who spent a year and a half rehabilitating and paying his debt. Yes, he's on thin ice and unfortunately that's the case for anyone who commits a crime and serves time, etc.

    Also, does the fact that he's a man who slapped a woman have anything to do with the lack of forgiveness. If Serena catches her husband flirting with another girl and slaps him, would she be immediately suspended from all tournaments for the rest of that season like German was suspended for post season play and would the Tennis Federation prevent her from any competition for the next year and when she was reinstated, would we prevent her from ever playing tennis again. Is it a different example because she slapped a man, especially given how strong a human she is. What if Megan Rapinoe slapped her girlfriend?

    At some point people are given second chances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Luke Voit on Domingo Germán: "We have his back but he's skating on thin ice and needs to get his life together."

    https://twitter.com/MaxTGoodman/stat...920715778?s=19
    More complete statement from Voit:

    “He messed up in life, he’s getting a second chance at this and we have his back, but he’s skating on thin ice and he needs to get his life together,” first baseman Luke Voit said. "I think he's doing the right steps to do so, but again, he's got to prove to us that he can do that."

    “(Domestic violence) is a problem that’s going on in our world and our country, and we’ve got to figure out ways to get better. Obviously, I want German to get better. He’s my teammate and obviously he’s a friend, so we’ll be there for him. But we don’t condone it. He messed up and a lot of guys look at him differently now. But I believe in second chances and the guy deserves a second chance. I hope he’s taking the right steps to do what he needs to do better with his family. I’m grateful that he came and apologized to us and the organization. So he’s making strides, but there’s a lot more left in his career and in his life and hopefully he makes the right decisions.”

    https://www.si.com/mlb/yankees/news/...ension-apology
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    Well I for one won’t be cheering for him this season . And no I am not rooting for him to fail either . They should have dumped him right after it happened . Because now unless he has a great season he will be a distraction all season . And the big question all season will be if German will succumb to the pressure he is under now . If the Yankees were smart they would keep him in the bullpen for atleast the first half of the season .
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi View Post
    I am not going to defend German's actions, because they are reprehensible. However, the time to cut him loose was when it happened and we don't have all the facts or the result of the investigation. We just know that the outcome was an angry man who slapped his wife.

    Suppose she was drunk and started to talk penis size, dissing his mother and his ancestry, calling him the n-word and he just found out that she slept with his brother or another teammate, would that change your mind, even a little bit. Sounds far-fetched, I know, but all things are possible.

    The point is that the Yankees made a decision a year and a half ago to counsel him and rehabilitate him and keep him gainfully employed. Now that he lost a year plus in earnings and did everything they asked of him, should we now say that he's not worth a second chance. There are people guilty of sexual assault or accused of murder playing professional sports, who IMO are far worse than someone who spent a year and a half rehabilitating and paying his debt. Yes, he's on thin ice and unfortunately that's the case for anyone who commits a crime and serves time, etc.

    Also, does the fact that he's a man who slapped a woman have anything to do with the lack of forgiveness. If Serena catches her husband flirting with another girl and slaps him, would she be immediately suspended from all tournaments for the rest of that season like German was suspended for post season play and would the Tennis Federation prevent her from any competition for the next year and when she was reinstated, would we prevent her from ever playing tennis again. Is it a different example because she slapped a man, especially given how strong a human she is. What if Megan Rapinoe slapped her girlfriend?

    At some point people are given second chances.
    To the bolded, honestly? No. It would make me question him even more. If that'a the first time that happens, there is zero reason to hit her. If it's the second, third... there's no reason to be with her.
    Words should never be the cause of violence unless those words are posed in an immediate threat and the individual presents as someone who will carry out the acts.
    If that is your GF? You walk away and if she becomes physical, I think restraining her to protect yourself is fine.
    I think there are extreme cases when all bets are off but in now way did German's situation present that way. I also believe that action in the form of defense is fine, including defense of others.

    I fully agree about second chances. I think part of being able to walk a way or break up with someone has to do with having the mental tools to understand a situation and see options. I don't think he had the tools to deal with it in an acceptable way. Hopefully he is truly dealing with the issue and hopefully if he does it again, someone in the clubhouse kicks the crap out of him

    Personally, I thought his apology was rehearsed and somewhat insincere. Hopefully that was just a result of already dealing with this teammates and getting through the emotions that would certainly rise up from such an embarrassing conversation



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    To the bolded, honestly? No. It would make me question him even more. If that'a the first time that happens, there is zero reason to hit her. If it's the second, third... there's no reason to be with her.
    Words should never be the cause of violence unless those words are posed in an immediate threat and the individual presents as someone who will carry out the acts.
    If that is your GF? You walk away and if she becomes physical, I think restraining her to protect yourself is fine.
    I think there are extreme cases when all bets are off but in now way did German's situation present that way. I also believe that action in the form of defense is fine, including defense of others.

    I fully agree about second chances. I think part of being able to walk a way or break up with someone has to do with having the mental tools to understand a situation and see options. I don't think he had the tools to deal with it in an acceptable way. Hopefully he is truly dealing with the issue and hopefully if he does it again, someone in the clubhouse kicks the crap out of him

    Personally, I thought his apology was rehearsed and somewhat insincere. Hopefully that was just a result of already dealing with this teammates and getting through the emotions that would certainly rise up from such an embarrassing conversation
    I understand what you are saying about the bolded and slapping her, as I said, is still reprehensible. I'm just saying, there could be some unknown reason that he snapped, not just that she ordered him the fish when he wanted the chicken. There was some kind of dynamics in play that we are not privy to. I agree if she exhibited egregious behavior, he should just walk away, but I suppose that too is difficult with the mother of his child. I agree that he didn't have the mental tools to deal with it. I also think that all public apologies are probably cleared by the organization's ghost writers, if the organization is the one who wants the individual to apologize and I don't know if there is any kind of language barrier that prevents him from showing the same emotion that he would in his native tongue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Well I for one won’t be cheering for him this season . And no I am not rooting for him to fail either . They should have dumped him right after it happened . Because now unless he has a great season he will be a distraction all season . And the big question all season will be if German will succumb to the pressure he is under now . If the Yankees were smart they would keep him in the bullpen for atleast the first half of the season .

    And the FACT that you won't cheer for a player on your SO CALLED favorite team says everything about you that we already know. So when he pitches you want to see him get smacked around. Is that about it? PATHETIC!!! How do even call yourself a fan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi View Post
    I understand what you are saying about the bolded and slapping her, as I said, is still reprehensible. I'm just saying, there could be some unknown reason that he snapped, not just that she ordered him the fish when he wanted the chicken. There was some kind of dynamics in play that we are not privy to. I agree if she exhibited egregious behavior, he should just walk away, but I suppose that too is difficult with the mother of his child. I agree that he didn't have the mental tools to deal with it. I also think that all public apologies are probably cleared by the organization's ghost writers, if the organization is the one who wants the individual to apologize and I don't know if there is any kind of language barrier that prevents him from showing the same emotion that he would in his native tongue.
    Agreed. We don't know what happened and her behavior could have been really bad.

    I just hope he's learning how to walk away from that stuff.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    Agreed. We don't know what happened and her behavior could have been really bad.

    I just hope he's learning how to walk away from that stuff.
    Impulse control.

    No excuse. It speaks to a developmental void.
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    Yankees’ Aaron Hicks feeling ‘100 percent’ with big home run goal
    By Dan Martin February 25, 2021 | 10:30pm | Updated

    TAMPA — Aaron Hicks said his right elbow feels “night and day” from how it felt in 2020, when he struggled following Tommy John surgery the previous offseason.

    “I definitely feel like it’s 100 percent right now, just with the way I’m able to throw to bases,’’ Hicks said.

    https://nypost.com/2021/02/25/yankee...-john-surgery/
    "Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality,” JFK 1963.
    "Fight for the things that you care about, but do it in a way that will lead others to join you." - Ruth Bader Ginsburg
    "Not everything that counts can be counted and not everything that can be counted counts."--- Einstein
    “Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced.”---- James Baldwin




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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Yankees’ Aaron Hicks feeling ‘100 percent’ with big home run goal
    By Dan Martin February 25, 2021 | 10:30pm | Updated

    TAMPA — Aaron Hicks said his right elbow feels “night and day” from how it felt in 2020, when he struggled following Tommy John surgery the previous offseason.

    “I definitely feel like it’s 100 percent right now, just with the way I’m able to throw to bases,’’ Hicks said.

    https://nypost.com/2021/02/25/yankee...-john-surgery/
    How about hit for average, doubles and RBI a d learn how to hit to the situation?

    This game is going down the toilet before our eyes. It's becoming a 3 outcome sport. There is no strategy left. No steals, bunts, scarifies... HR, Walk, K

    With that said, at some point a team is going to adjust to the game that plays to the 3 outcome result, by moving runners, stealing and doing all the other little things that made the game great. The pendulum always swings back
    Last edited by Kinkotheclown; 02-27-2021 at 08:27 AM.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Kinkotheclown View Post
    How about hit for average, doubles and RBI a d learn how to hit to the situation?

    This game is going down the toilet before our eyes. It's becoming a 3 outcome sport. There is no strategy left. No steals, bunts, scarifies... HR, Walk, K

    With that said, at some point a team is going to adjust to the game that plays to the 3 outcome result, by moving runners, stealing and doing all the other little things that made the game great. The pendulum always swings back
    I thought the important take was his elbow feeling 100%, or that was my read. Being able to throw and swing the bat without pain or fear.
    "Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality,” JFK 1963.
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    "Not everything that counts can be counted and not everything that can be counted counts."--- Einstein
    “Not everything that is faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it is faced.”---- James Baldwin




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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    I thought the important take was his elbow feeling 100%, or that was my read. Being able to throw and swing the bat without pain or fear.

    Fair point and certainly more optimistic than my take.
    It's great he's 100%. I presumed he already was feeling that way and has been for a while.
    I think Hicks is at his peak, so hopefully he stays that way but history does not favor him.
    I'm just tired of guys talking about hitting 30+ a d at least making it seem that, that is their primary goal.



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    I heard that hicks bulked up . Not sure that is a good thing .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    I heard that hicks bulked up . Not sure that is a good thing .
    Even if you thought it was a good thing you'd find a way to make a negative comment about it

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