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    Quote Originally Posted by IceHawk-181 View Post
    A one year flier on Kluber feels like a solid risk. But I have to feel like we need a more dependable arm to shore up the rotation. Still want Castillo...but that is unlikely to happen.

    Maybe we could still snag Tanaka for cheap?

    Still feel like the Yankees are treading water.
    i agree with you yanks are treading water might even take a step backwards due to shaky and not dependable starting pitching and the bullpen has gone backward..

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    Gleybey and Yanks settle at 4 mil.

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    He is talking about the one and only, pure trash: Ereck Flowers

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    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    Sounds like the only offer to Realmuto is from Philly and it's 5 years and over 100m.

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    He is talking about the one and only, pure trash: Ereck Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    Lindor and the Mets settle at $22.3M for 1 year. No mention of an extension.
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    Yanks came to terms with all arb players.

    Here is the rest

    Clint Frazier, Yanks agree: $2.1M

    Jordan Montgomery, Yanks agree: $2.13M

    Gio Urshela, Yanks agree: $4.65M

    Luke Voit agrees at $4.7M


    Chad Green and Yankees settle at $2.15M

    I'll condense it all into one post.


    Gleybey got 4 mil

    Judge got 10.175 mil
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    He is talking about the one and only, pure trash: Ereck Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    Will say I'm happy they were able to get these deals done. DJ included. So now it they truly do have a cap on what they're willing to spend, they officially know how much room they have left.

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    He is talking about the one and only, pure trash: Ereck Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    With the latest arbitration numbers, I just looked and the Yankees are sitting at $175million in payroll for their 40men roster (The rookies make a combined amount of $6.5million). So they have around $35million to work with.

    That's even more money than I thought they were gonna be under the luxury tax threshold.

    $35million that's like 2 SPs and 1 decent reliever. But I doubt the Yankees will go above $200million because of Covid and the lack of money coming from tickets and items sold in the stadium. And since it was a 60 games season I doubt they got the same money from TV revenues than a regular season provides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    I think he's attainable, but he won't be cheap. He can go home and rake in a ton.
    Brantley to the Yanks is really picking up some traction according to Stark. They supposedly have 20m left under the luxury tax I don't think they could get both Brantley and Kluber for that. If they are that serious about Brantley they must being looking to trade Clint for a starter. The only available starter that i've heard of anyways, worth giving up Frazier in a package for is Castillio. They could easily do Brantley & Castillio for less than 20m and maybe have a little left for a reliever....

    I love the idea of Brantley lhed bat in that lineup, his swing is tailor made for YS but it would suck to lose Frazier. Then again if Frazier plus can bring back a TORP it makes alot of sense

    there are still lots of reports going around that the Yanks are still the leaders for Kluber as well. Unless Hal loosens the purse strings i don't think its possible for them to sign Brantley, Kluber and trade Clint for a TORP. Maybe they got someone to take Otto plus?

    @ Slick i saw that about Realmuto, that about half of what he was looking for when FA started, after the Mets passed on him his market sure dried up fast.

    Speaking of the Mets sounds like they are getting Hand and are back in on Springer. Apparently after seeing the DJ deal Springer is considering taking a 7yr130m deal to lower his AAV. Just Lindor, Carrasco and Hand is one hell of an off season, plus Stroman, McCann and May, u add Springer to that team that would put them right up there with Padres, Braves and just a notch below the Dodgers. If they get Springer done that would be one of the best off seasons in recent memory

    Cohen and Alderson are killing it

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Lindor and the Mets settle at $22.3M for 1 year. No mention of an extension.
    I also looked at the Met's payroll numbers. They are now sitting at $181million and have around $29million to work with under the luxury tax threshold.

    A Springer or a Bauer I guess if they decide to go that way.

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    I just realized I made a mistake on the Yankees payroll and it's sitting indeed at $189million not $175million. Here the numbers for those interested:

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    NEW YORK										26-man OD payroll		40-man CB Tax payroll			Tax Space							
    								2021		$177,965,714 (____)		$188,796,667 (____)			$21,203,333							
    YANKEES								2020		$108,115,350 (  1st)		$265,226,892 ( 1st )			($57,226,892)							
    								2019		$203,897,446 ( 3rd)		$234,570,109 ( 3rd)			($28,570,109)			Estimates in italics				
    																						
    Player	Pos.	Year	Country /		Age	MLS	Opts Left 1/21	Agent		Length / Total Value		26-man roster - Salaries & pro-rated signing bonuses						40-man roster - Competitive Balance Tax - AAV				
    		Signed	Rd	Pick	7/1/21	1/1/21						2021	2022	2023	2024	2025		2021	2022	2023	2024	2025
     																						
    Cole, Gerrit	rhp-s	2011	1	1	30.297	7.111	3 / 3	Boras Corp.		9 yr/$324M (20-28)		$36,000,000	$36.000	$36.000	$36.000	$36.000		$36,000,000	$36.000	$36.000	$36.000	$36.000
    Stanton, Giancarlo	dh-rf	2007	2	76	31.236	10.118	3 / 3	Wasserman		13 yr/$325M (15-27)+28 opt		$29,000,000	$29.000	$32.000	$32.000	$32.000		$25,000,000	$25.000	$25.000	$25.000	$25.000
    Chapman, Aroldis	lhp-c	2010		CUB	33.124	10.009	2 / 3	Magnus Spts		3 yr/$48M (20-22)		$16,000,000	$16.000	FA				$17,466,667	$17.467			
    LeMahieu, D.J.	2b	2009	2	79	32.354	8.128	0 / 3	Excel		6 yr/$90M (21-26)		$15,000,000	$15.000	$15.000	$15.000	$15.000		$15,000,000	$15.000	$15.000	$15.000	$15.000
    Britton, Zack	lhp	2006	3	85	33.192	8.158	0 / 3	Boras Corp.		3 yr/$39M (19-21)+22 cl opt		$13,000,000	$14.000					$13,000,000	$14.000			
    Hicks, Aaron	of	2008	1	14	31.273	7.041	0 / 3	CAA		7 yr/$70M (19-25)+26 cl opt		$10,785,714	$10.786	$10.786	$9.786	$9.786		$10,000,000	$10.000	$10.000	$10.000	$10.000
    Severino, Luis	rhp-s	2011		DOM	27.132	4.170	2 / 3	Rep 1		4 yr/$40M (19-22)+23 cl opt		$10,750,000	$11.500	$2.750				$10,000,000	$10.000	opt		
    Judge, Aaron	rf-dh	2013	1	32	29.067	4.051	3 / 3	PSI Spts		A2		$10,500,000	A3	FA				$10,500,000				
    Ottavino, Adam	rhp	2006	1	30	35.222	9.087	1 / 3	All Bases Cov		3 yr/$27M (19-21)		$8,850,000	FA					$9,000,000				
    Sanchez, Gary	c	2009		DOM	28.212	4.086	0 / 3	Magnus Spts		A2		$6,500,000	A3	FA				$6,500,000				
    Urshela, Giovanny	3b	2008		COL	29.264	3.127	0 / 3	GSE		A2		$4,750,000	A3	A4	FA			$4,750,000				
    Voit, Luke	1b	2013	22	665	30.139	2.169	2 / 3	Excel		A1		$2,750,000	A2	A3	A4			$2,750,000				
    Green, Chad	rhp	2013	11	336	30.039	4.050	1 / 3	Frontline		A2		$2,250,000	A3	FA				$2,250,000				
    Torres, Gleyber	2b	2013		VEN	24.201	2.162	2 / 3			A1		$2,250,000	A2	A3	A4			$2,250,000				
    Frazier, Clint	of	2013	1	5	26.299	2.133	1 / 3	ACES		A1		$1,500,000	A2	A3	A4			$1,500,000				
    Cessa, Luis	rhp	2008		MEX	29.068	3.131	0 / 3			1 yr/$1.05M (21)		$1,050,000	A3	A4	FA			$1,050,000				
    Montgomery, Jordan	lhp-s	2014	4	122	28.187	3.145	2 / 3			A2		$805,000	A3	A4	FA			$805,000				
    Heller, Ben	rhp	2013	22	651	29.331	3.021	0 / 3			1 yr/$625,000 (21)		$625,000	A2	A3	FA			$625,000				
    Andujar, Miguel	3b	2011		DOM	26.122	2.117	1 / 3	Octagon					A1	A2	A3	FA						
    German, Domingo	rhp-s	2010		DOM	28.332	2.017	0 / 3						A1	A2	A3	FA						
    Tauchman, Mike	cf	2013	10	289	30.211	2.055	0 / 3						A1	A2	A3	FA						
    Wade, Tyler	2b	2013	4	134	26.221	2.093	1 / 3						A1	A2	A3	FA						
    Loaisiga, Jonathan	rhp	2012		NIC	26.242	2.022	0 / 3						A1	A2	A3	FA						
    Ford, Mike	1b	2013		USA	28.363	1.061	2 / 3							A1	A2	A3						
    Higashioka, Kyle	c	2008	7	230	31.073	2.005	0 / 3						A1	A2	A3	FA						
    Allen, Greg	of	2014	6	188	28.109	2.010	1 / 3						A1	A2	A3	FA						
    Estrada, Thairo	2b-ss	2012		VEN	25.130	1.063	0 / 3							A1	A2	A3						
    King, Michael	rhp	2016	12	353	26.038	1.008	3 / 3							A1	A2	A3						
    Abreu, Albert	rhp	2013		DOM	25.279	0.025	0 / 3															
    Contreras, Roansy	rhp	2016		DOM	21.236	0.000	3 / 3															
    Florial, Estevan	of	2015		HTI	23.219	0.011	2 / 3															
    Garcia, Deivi	rhp	2015		DOM	22.043	0.058	2 / 3															
    Gil, Luis	rhp	2015		DOM	23.028	0.000	2 / 3															
    Gomez, Yoendrys	rhp	2016		VEN	21.259	0.000	3 / 3															
    Kriske, Brooks	rhp	2016	6	188	27.149	0.044	2 / 3															
    Medina, Luis	rhp	2015		DOM	22.059	0.000	2 / 3															
    Nelson, Nick	rhp	2016	4	128	25.209	0.144	3 / 3															
    Peraza, Oswald	ss	2016		VEN	21.016	0.000	3 / 3															
    Schmidt, Clarke	rhp	2017	1	16	25.132	0.031	3 / 3															
    Vizcaino, Alexander	rhp	2016		DOM	24.040	0.000	3 / 3															
    Yajure, Miguel	rhp	2015		VEN	23.061	0.044	2 / 3															
    0-3 year players (8)												$5,600,000						$5,600,000				
    Stanton, Giancarlo										Miami pays $30M 2026-28								($3,000,000)	($3.000)	($3.000)	($3.000)	($3.000)
    												2021	2022	2023	2024	2025		2021	2022	2023	2024	2025
    40-man players-minors																		$2,250,000	$2.250	$2.250	$2.250	$2.250
    Est. Player Benefits																		$15,500,000	$16.000	$16.500	$17.000	$17.500
    Projected 40-man CB Payroll																		$188,796,667	$142.717	$101.750	$102.250	$102.750
    CB Tax Threshold																		$210,000,000	tba	tba	tba	tba
    Amount under threshold																		$21,203,333				
    Running Payroll Total												$177,965,714	$132.286	$96.536	$92.786	$92.786						
    26-man Opening Day Payroll
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...gid=1520401900

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhSoSlick View Post
    Yanks came to terms with all arb players.

    Here is the rest

    Clint Frazier, Yanks agree: $2.1M

    Jordan Montgomery, Yanks agree: $2.13M

    Gio Urshela, Yanks agree: $4.65M

    Luke Voit agrees at $4.7M


    I'll condense it all into one post.


    Gleybey got 4 mil

    Judge got 10.175 mil
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    thats less than what was expect for Torres, Judge, Urshela and Voit isn't it? i thought i saw estimates for Torres closer to 5m, Gio 6-7, Voit is saw as high as 9m and i thought Judge was looking at 12-13? Think they all took a page from DJ's book and took a little less so that the Yanks still had enough money to get what they are really going to need to compete?

    If Shinobi's # are right, or even close they still have quit a bit of left for pitching. This could turn out better than expected

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    i was wrong about Torres he was estimated to get 3.5m, Gary got 6.35

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    Yanks are finalizing a deal with Kluber
    The Yankees are finalizing a contract with free-agent right-hander Corey Kluber, according to Jeff Passan of ESPN.com.
    https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2021/...zing-deal.html

    More to come.
    Today is a good day

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    Sorry missed one.

    Chad Green and Yankees settle at $2.15M

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    He is talking about the one and only, pure trash: Ereck Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    Rotation looking like it has a **** ton of potential and some depth. Some what ifs but I like it so far.

    Cole
    Sevy
    Kluber
    Deivi
    Monty
    German
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    He is talking about the one and only, pure trash: Ereck Flowers

    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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