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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    That is what tauchman is for . I can’t believe you even think andujar is a good enough defensive outfielder to start a game over tauchman . Andujar is best at dh snd the best thing to do is trade him
    He'll get released when he runs out of options.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    Read Jorge. The season as a whole, not simply postseason.

    He had a very rough postseason in 2009.
    Why don’t you read instead ? I was only talking about how he wasn’t exceptional in the 09 playoffs.

    But if you want to talk overall , Hughes wasn’t exceptional either since he has a lifetime era of 4.52,
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    Quote Originally Posted by sauronthepower View Post
    Doc, we all know your rampant dislike for ARod.

    It’s been well-documented.

    The point that I am making, backed by both history and fact, is that, regardless of ARod’s various other foibles (and I agree that they are many), you can’t seriously try to posit that Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez did not singlehandedly deliver the postseason heroics that got them Brian Cashman’s one true championship.

    Team sport minus ARod in 2009 equals no championship.

    It really is that simple.



    Good.

    Let him lose for another franchise for a change.
    As is your love affair with Cashman.

    I give A-rod credit for his contribution. Where I draw the line is giving him singlehanded credit. Forget foibles.

    Jete had great numbers on the season, Teixeira had 39HR's, Swisher 29, Matsui had 28.

    Sabathia had perhaps his best Yankee season 19-8. Pettitte went 14-8 and Mariano Rivera converted on 44 of 46 save opportunities. They finished regular season 103-59.

    Yankees battled back from deficits in all three of their ALDS games against the Twins, before ultimately sweeping them out of the postseason. Yankees starters allowed just three earned runs and three extra-base hits to Twins hitters in the entire series, posting a 1.42 ERA over 19.0 innings. A Rod paced the offense, two homers and drove in six runs while batting .455 (5-11) in the three games. ARod continued his blistering offensive production in the ALCS with nine hits in 21 at-bats (.429), six runs, three homers, six RBI and eight walks. Imo his best postseason performance. CC , allowed just two earned runs over 16 innings in his two starts that series, posting a 1.13 ERA and earning both decisions, was awarded the ALCS MVP.

    Matsui was unanimously named World Series MVP after going 8-for-13 (.615) with three homers and eight RBI, Matsui tied the MLB record for most RBI in a single World Series game with six in Game 6.
    "Dante once said that the hottest places in hell are reserved for those who in a period of moral crisis maintain their neutrality,” JFK 1963.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Why don’t you read instead ? I was only talking about how he wasn’t exceptional in the 09 playoffs.

    But if you want to talk overall , Hughes wasn’t exceptional either since he has a lifetime era of 4.52,
    I can no longer tolerate your density and circuitous dancing. I am taking your advice Jorge, hence forth you are ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    I can no longer tolerate your density and circuitous dancing. I am taking your advice Jorge, hence forth you are ignored.
    Welcome to the club. Soon enough no one will converse with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    As is your love affair with Cashman.

    I give A-rod credit for his contribution. Where I draw the line is giving him singlehanded credit. Forget foibles.

    Jete had great numbers on the season, Teixeira had 39HR's, Swisher 29, Matsui had 28.

    Sabathia had perhaps his best Yankee season 19-8. Pettitte went 14-8 and Mariano Rivera converted on 44 of 46 save opportunities. They finished regular season 103-59.

    Yankees battled back from deficits in all three of their ALDS games against the Twins, before ultimately sweeping them out of the postseason. Yankees starters allowed just three earned runs and three extra-base hits to Twins hitters in the entire series, posting a 1.42 ERA over 19.0 innings. A Rod paced the offense, two homers and drove in six runs while batting .455 (5-11) in the three games. ARod continued his blistering offensive production in the ALCS with nine hits in 21 at-bats (.429), six runs, three homers, six RBI and eight walks. Imo his best postseason performance. CC , allowed just two earned runs over 16 innings in his two starts that series, posting a 1.13 ERA and earning both decisions, was awarded the ALCS MVP.

    Matsui was unanimously named World Series MVP after going 8-for-13 (.615) with three homers and eight RBI, Matsui tied the MLB record for most RBI in a single World Series game with six in Game 6.
    Except that my association with the rather questionable tenure of Brian Cashman is borne out by both history and fact, something that your attempts to diminish and circuitously demphasize the October 2009 achievements of one Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez do not.

    Since Brian Cashman has made a career cottage industry out of deflecting the light of truth and accountability, why don't we take a stroll down factual memory lane.

    ALDS

    Game 2 vs. Joe Nathan: 9th inning, losing 3-1: GAME TYING 2 run HR
    Game 3: vs. Carl Pavano: 7th inning, losing 1-0: GAME TYING Solo HR


    ALCS

    Game 2 vs. Brian Fuentes: 11th inning, losing 3-2: GAME TYING 2 run HR


    World Series

    Game 4 vs. Brad Lidge: 9th inning, tied 4-4: GO-AHEAD Solo HR


    Those were only the REALLY important ones.

    Let us not forget the home runs in Games 3 and 4 of the CS and Game 3 of the World Series off of Hamels as well as a couple of key RBI hits.

    My original point stands:

    Without the singlehanded October postseason offseason heroics of one Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez, the New York Yankees almost certainly lose these games and consequently the one true title that Brian Cashman can honestly lay claim to with the players, personnel, staff, and financial outlays that he, Brian Cashman, was actually responsible and accountable for.

    Except that he wasn't responsible in any way, shape, or form for the contractual re-signing of one Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez, now was he??????

    You can feel free to knock it off with the A.J. Burnett nonsense any time now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sauronthepower View Post
    Except that my association with the rather questionable tenure of Brian Cashman is borne out by both history and fact, something that your attempts to diminish and circuitously demphasize the October 2009 achievements of one Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez do not.

    Since Brian Cashman has made a career cottage industry out of deflecting the light of truth and accountability, why don't we take a stroll down factual memory lane.

    ALDS

    Game 2 vs. Joe Nathan: 9th inning, losing 3-1: GAME TYING 2 run HR
    Game 3: vs. Carl Pavano: 7th inning, losing 1-0: GAME TYING Solo HR


    ALCS

    Game 2 vs. Brian Fuentes: 11th inning, losing 3-2: GAME TYING 2 run HR


    World Series

    Game 4 vs. Brad Lidge: 9th inning, tied 4-4: GO-AHEAD Solo HR


    Those were only the REALLY important ones.

    Let us not forget the home runs in Games 3 and 4 of the CS and Game 3 of the World Series off of Hamels as well as a couple of key RBI hits.

    My original point stands:

    Without the singlehanded October postseason offseason heroics of one Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez, the New York Yankees almost certainly lose these games and consequently the one true title that Brian Cashman can honestly lay claim to with the players, personnel, staff, and financial outlays that he, Brian Cashman, was actually responsible and accountable for.

    Except that he wasn't responsible in any way, shape, or form for the contractual re-signing of one Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez, now was he??????

    You can feel free to knock it off with the A.J. Burnett nonsense any time now.
    You forgot the 2 run home run that arod hit in game three that cut philly’s lead to one run . And we know who went on to win that game . He , cc , matsuri are why they won the ws that year. And I find it comical that he says you have a love affair with cashman when he keeps defending the guy . Especially when the last 15 years or so there is just no defending cashman
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    Quote Originally Posted by sauronthepower View Post
    Except that my association with the rather questionable tenure of Brian Cashman is borne out by both history and fact, something that your attempts to diminish and circuitously demphasize the October 2009 achievements of one Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez do not.

    Since Brian Cashman has made a career cottage industry out of deflecting the light of truth and accountability, why don't we take a stroll down factual memory lane.

    ALDS

    Game 2 vs. Joe Nathan: 9th inning, losing 3-1: GAME TYING 2 run HR
    Game 3: vs. Carl Pavano: 7th inning, losing 1-0: GAME TYING Solo HR


    ALCS

    Game 2 vs. Brian Fuentes: 11th inning, losing 3-2: GAME TYING 2 run HR


    World Series

    Game 4 vs. Brad Lidge: 9th inning, tied 4-4: GO-AHEAD Solo HR


    Those were only the REALLY important ones.

    Let us not forget the home runs in Games 3 and 4 of the CS and Game 3 of the World Series off of Hamels as well as a couple of key RBI hits.

    My original point stands:

    Without the singlehanded October postseason offseason heroics of one Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez, the New York Yankees almost certainly lose these games and consequently the one true title that Brian Cashman can honestly lay claim to with the players, personnel, staff, and financial outlays that he, Brian Cashman, was actually responsible and accountable for.

    Except that he wasn't responsible in any way, shape, or form for the contractual re-signing of one Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez, now was he??????

    You can feel free to knock it off with the A.J. Burnett nonsense any time now.
    I believe I actually acknowledge and enumerated much of the same. His contribution is not the point of contention or in dispute. What I am not willing to concede is that it was a singlehanded mission sent from the gods. One can not overlook the pitching, particularly CC effort in the ALCS. Nor can you ignore Matsui's historic performance. Both awarded the MVP for the effort. History. Fact. That does not minimize ARods contribution, just adds needed context and perspective. Do they usually give the MVP to players with negligible contributions ?

    What I am willing to concede, they don't get to WS without ARods postseason. They also don't get to WS without CC performance AND they certainly don't win the WS without Matsui historic performance. Fact.
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    World series:

    Game 1: 0-for-4 with three strikeouts.

    Game 2: 0-for-4 with three more K's.

    Game3: a two-run shot off Cole Hamels. Yankees won the game 8-5, ARod finished 1-for-2 with the home run and two RBI.

    Game 4: Memorable moment. Broke a 4-4 tie in 9th with a line shot. Yankees ended up winning 7-4, and ARod finished 1-for-4 with the double and RBI. Maybe the biggest hit of series.

    Game5: ARod finished 2-for-4 with 3 RBI in a losing effort.

    Game 6: ARod finished 1-for-2 with two walks, but this game was Matsui show and the Yankees won 7-3.

    ARod finished 5-for-20, hitting .250 with one home run and six RBI.

    For the entire 2009 postseason, ARod finished 19-for-52, hitting .365 with six home runs and 18 RBI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    I believe I actually acknowledge and enumerated much of the same. His contribution is not the point of contention or in dispute. What I am not willing to concede is that it was a singlehanded mission sent from the gods. One can not overlook the pitching, particularly CC effort in the ALCS. Nor can you ignore Matsui's historic performance. Both awarded the MVP for the effort. History. Fact. That does not minimize ARods contribution, just adds needed context and perspective. Do they usually give the MVP to players with negligible contributions ?

    What I am willing to concede, they don't get to WS without ARods postseason. They also don't get to WS without CC performance AND they certainly don't win the WS without Matsui historic performance. Fact.
    Fact: 3 of those 4 game altering home runs came in the 9th inning or later. Guys have made a career out of having ONE of those types of things happen in a lifetime.

    ARod did it four times in two weeks.

    Fact: 2 of those 4 game altering heroics came in the Yankees’ final AB’s, snatching victory from the jaws of defeat.

    Fact: ARod hit .437 in the ALDS

    Fact: If Alexander Emmanuel Rodriguez is not a member of the 2009 Yankees, per Brian Cashman’s ‘vision,’ the New York Yankees go a minimum of two decades bereft of championship gold and Brian Cashman enters Year 24 as the 3rd longest tenured general manager currently in the game and still looking for his first.

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    *Grabs Popcorn*

    *Pulls up chair*

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    I think we all know Docs feelings on A-rod.

    There is zero doubt, that without Arod, Yanks don't make it to the world series in 09. This is just an undisputed fact. Without making it there, they can't win it all.

    Cashman has a bad record on world series championships as a GM, and what i mean is as the team that he had legit control in building from the ground up. On teams that he had full control over and built as a GM, only 1 has reached the world series and won. This is a fact.


    No, I'm not talking about world series on a roster he mostly was gifted from the previous rank.

    We can argue this is a different era and yanks money doesn't take them as far as it did, but Cashman has clearly not done a good job with roster construction. The anal dept is not that good, others are better. The strength and conditioning team has also not been good. Cashman is the gm, that's on him. On things where money should in theory help him, he has failed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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    Welcome to the club. Soon enough no one will converse with him.

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    The board experience leaped exponentially when I put him on ignore. Yet, people keep complaining about him while continuing to converse with him. They continue to engage and quote him only indicating they wish to enable his conduct while they complain about him. Some folks are just addicted to the back and forth with him and cant admit it to themselves
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    Quote Originally Posted by goingfor28 View Post
    Tmml

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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