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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi View Post
    If you watch German on the mound, you'd never believe he has any outside issues. Perhaps, it is on the mound that he finds his inner sanctum. Plus, as his floor, he could be a great long man. On the mound, his calmnest reminds me of Ramiro Mendoza, who was an integral part of Yankees Championships in the distant past. Ramiro was the long man and he could hold the opposition to no runs or one run for multiple innings, while the Yankees bats came back, often picking up the middle innings wins.
    I see a different person on the mound than you. I see a pitcher who is always on the edge. He teeters on trouble and collapse and squeaks out of it. As good as his record was and as good as his stuff was, I never felt safe with him pitching because I never thought he was in control

    Strangely, your inner sanctum and my ledge can be very similar places. The mound is where he can battle for control.



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    He was 18-4 and went about his business in a professional manner. Was it inner Sanctum or living on the edge? To me 10-12 more likely might prove living on the edge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi View Post
    He was 18-4 and went about his business in a professional manner. Was it inner Sanctum or living on the edge? To me 10-12 more likely might prove living on the edge.
    did he not get a ton of run support he was 18-4 but had a e.r.a over 4:00 and gave up 30 home runs in a 143 innings which is awful

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    i do not expect german to do much even if he gets a start or 2 he missed a whole year plus the cloud of his woman beating hands over him

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    Quote Originally Posted by YANKSGUY View Post
    Sometimes a headache can be hard to get rid of. Get my drift?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny ny View Post
    did he not get a ton of run support he was 18-4 but had a e.r.a over 4:00 and gave up 30 home runs in a 143 innings which is awful
    I think your massively underrating him

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    I think your massively underrating him
    And you are overrating him . This is the same guy who only has one season under his belt as a full time starter and even then he had to be moved to the bullpen in the last month . And yet you are talking about him like he is some kind of great pitcher who would be very hard to replace .
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny ny View Post
    did he not get a ton of run support he was 18-4 but had a e.r.a over 4:00 and gave up 30 home runs in a 143 innings which is awful
    He did get good run support . Half his wins came when the yanks scored atleast 5 runs and his era in those games was 5. And on top of that only 135 of those 143 innings pitched were as a starter . He was moved to the bullpen in the last month of the season because of his second half struggles. Domingo German is a classic example as to why win/loss records for starting pitchers have lost relevance over the years
    Last edited by Posada20; 02-20-2021 at 09:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    And you are overrating him . This is the same guy who only has one season under his belt as a full time starter and even then he had to be moved to the bullpen in the last month . And yet you are talking about him like he is some kind of great pitcher who would be very hard to replace .
    How so? all i am expecting him to be is a middle of the rotation starter or middle innings BP arm and 1 of our 14 best pitchers. I have a whole lot more faith in German than Cessa Or Lasagna as this point

    If there are better option after ST gets going then trade him. IMO he is going to provide value with his versatility and cheap cost.

    God forbid Cole gets hurt or Kluber, Taillon and Sexy cant stay healthy. What if Monty, Garcia, Schmidt struggle? were just not in a position with how the rest of the pitching staff is built to just throw away a guy like German who can be a very effective starter or reliver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    How so? all i am expecting him to be is a middle of the rotation starter or middle innings BP arm and 1 of our 14 best pitchers. I have a whole lot more faith in German than Cessa Or Lasagna as this point

    If there are better option after ST gets going then trade him. IMO he is going to provide value with his versatility and cheap cost.

    God forbid Cole gets hurt or Kluber, Taillon and Sexy cant stay healthy. What if Monty, Garcia, Schmidt struggle? were just not in a position with how the rest of the pitching staff is built to just throw away a guy like German who can be a very effective starter or reliver.
    When did German prove how versatile he is ? The one year he spent as both a starter and a reliever was in 2018 and he had a losing record with close to a 6 era . And if all three of those pitchers struggle then the Yankees are in trouble since German is likely not much better than them . You can have the deepest staff in baseball but if it is mostly mediocre to possibly average pitchers , how good is it really? Again with how little he is paid he isn’t as difficult to replace as you think he is . So yes you are overrating him .
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnnyi View Post
    He was 18-4 and went about his business in a professional manner. Was it inner Sanctum or living on the edge? To me 10-12 more likely might prove living on the edge.
    Ahh . This where I should have been clearer. When Living on the edge, your outcome is often influenced by your support system. I agree that he had a fantastic season. I think a there were a few games where he had 6-7 games where he pitched just 5, gave up 3 or more and either won or got seriously bailed out. Like 7 and 8 runs and the offense tied the game.
    Change those 7 and we have the ferocity to which you referred.

    Again, not a knock on his talent. I just saw a guy who got into trouble and either wiggled out, which is great or got some help, which is also great. But if the help isn't there, he has a different season



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    Keep eye on this Yankees dark horse bullpen candidate

    TAMPA — Yankees relief prospect Addison Russ just wants a shot.

    “I just want them to see that I can compete, that I’m willing to put the work in,” Russ told NJ Advance Media in a phone interview recently.

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    Russ pairs a mid-90s fastball with a mid-80s, late-breaking splitter. The Texas native throws them from essentially the same release point, baffling hitters who can’t tell what’s coming. In three minor-league seasons, he’s averaged 11.8 strikeouts per nine innings. In 2019, Russ had a 2.54 ERA with 81 strikeouts in 56 2/3 innings at Double-A Redding.

    While at the Yankees’ alternate site last year, the team also worked with him to develop a slider, which acts similarly to a cutter, Russ said.

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    “I’ll do anything I can to finish with the team and eat up innings or be in any role they need me in,” he said.

    https://www.silive.com/yankees/2021/...candidate.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by PJO34 View Post
    Keep eye on this Yankees dark horse bullpen candidate

    TAMPA — Yankees relief prospect Addison Russ just wants a shot.

    “I just want them to see that I can compete, that I’m willing to put the work in,” Russ told NJ Advance Media in a phone interview recently.

    ***

    Russ pairs a mid-90s fastball with a mid-80s, late-breaking splitter. The Texas native throws them from essentially the same release point, baffling hitters who can’t tell what’s coming. In three minor-league seasons, he’s averaged 11.8 strikeouts per nine innings. In 2019, Russ had a 2.54 ERA with 81 strikeouts in 56 2/3 innings at Double-A Redding.

    While at the Yankees’ alternate site last year, the team also worked with him to develop a slider, which acts similarly to a cutter, Russ said.

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    “I’ll do anything I can to finish with the team and eat up innings or be in any role they need me in,” he said.

    https://www.silive.com/yankees/2021/...candidate.html
    There is a guy who could be more deserving of a spot than German ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    There is a guy who could be more deserving of a spot than German ....
    Literally anyone at spring training COULD be more deserving. Guess we’ll see what the actual experts think. I think distractions are overrated. Sure it would be great to only work with people you like, but that’s just not how the world works. If German is the best man for the job, pitch away. He served his time in the eyes of the law/mlb and that’s good enough for me.

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    Domingo Germán’s return reveals disconnect between players, Yankees officials

    https://theathletic.com/2402719/2021....co/qbTBAccIix

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    Quote Originally Posted by cowboyskilla View Post
    His stern face can give that impression but I don't feel that's the case. New York isn't an easy place to play at, so honestly I can see his confidence at an all-time low for him.

    I don't think he's a bust. I think he just needs the right motivation to pick himself up & play harder.

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