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    NY Yankees vs Tampa Bay Rays ALDS Oct 5-9

    The first pitch of the New York Yankees and Tampa Bay Rays will be at 8:07 p.m. on Monday in Game 1 of their American League Division Series.

    The game will be televised on TBS nationally from Petco Park in San Diego, where the entire five-game series will be played.

    Gerrit Cole (7-3, 2.84) is scheduled to start for New York. He pitched seven innings in Tuesday's win over Cleveland, striking out 13 while allowing two runs on six hits.

    The times for the rest of the series have yet to be announced.

    Yankees and Rays will play games 1 and 2 of the ALDS at 8pm on TBS, games 3-5 at 7pm on TBS.

    Here is the rest of the ALDS schedule:

    Game 2: Tuesday, Oct. 6

    Game 3: Wednesday, Oct. 7

    Game 4: Thursday, Oct. 8

    Game 5: Friday, Oct. 9

    The Rays won the season series, 8-2, from the Yankees on their way to winning the AL East by seven games.

    Heading into the AL Division Series against the top-seeded Tampa Bay Rays, Yankees manager Aaron Boone is still figuring out how to best utilize his starting rotation without benefit of an off day.

    “You’re going to have to lean on more guys on the roster,’’ Boone said of the challenge to manage this series, “mostly from the pitching standpoint.’’

    Rays manager Kevin Cash has a similar dilemma, though Tampa Bay has a deep and reliable bullpen to help navigate through a best-of-five series.

    The Yankees came into the 2020 season as the prohibitive favorites to win both the AL East Division title and the American League Pennant. They were co-favorites, with the Los Angeles Dodgers, to win the World Series. To say this team was expected to be good would be quite the understatement, they were expected to be the class of the league.

    Early in the season, New York looked every bit the favorites. The Yankees jumped out to an 8-1 record, and at nearly the halfway point of the season, they stood at an American League-best 16-6 record. It looked like the Yankees were going to live up to their ample hype and run away with the AL East Division title. But then disaster struck, as New York started losing key players, seemingly daily, and after losing seven straight games, the Yankees fell from a first-place lock, to being at risk of missing the postseason.

    While the Tampa Bay Rays certainly weren’t the favorites in the AL East coming into the year, they were absolutely expected to be a good team, and many people, myself included, felt that they were a very sexy dark horse World Series favorite. We all knew that Tampa Bay could pitch, with their trio of Cy Young Award candidate starters and elite bullpen, the question was, could they score enough runs to hang with higher scoring AL teams like the Yankees, Athletics, Astros, and White Sox.

    Those questions were answered early in the season, as the Rays have been surprisingly strong at the plate since Opening Day. Tampa Bay started out the year by winning four out of their first five games and were nearly unbeatable in August. The Rays won 19 of their final 22 games in August, to take full control of the American League East Division. After that MLB best run, coupled with struggles from the Blue Jays and the Yankees, the Rays all but locked up the division title with a full month of the season left to play.

    Here’s an individual look at how the Yankees stack up heading into the next round:

    Infielders

    DJ LeMahieu

    The team’s MVP had the game-winning hit in the AL Wild Card clincher. Batted .333 (10-for-30) with .908 OPS vs. Rays in seven games this year.

    Luke Voit

    Still hobbling on a bad foot, but it hasn’t impacted his hitting. Batted .333 (11-for-33) with four of his 22 homers vs. the Rays in 2020.

    Gleyber Torres

    Came alive in the ALWS (5-for-7, HR, 3 walks) vs. Cleveland after a disappointing regular season. Batted .182 (4-for-22, 1 RBI) in seven games vs. Rays this year.

    Gio Urshela

    The hero of ALWC Game 2 with a grand slam, key ninth inning hit and stunning, essential defensive play. Hit .294 (10-for-34, 9 RBI) with .904 OPS in 10 games vs. Rays in 2020.

    Tyler Wade

    Versatile backup infielder saw his first career postseason action as a sub during ALWC vs. Cleveland. Pinch-hit for by Clint Frazier in Game 2.

    Mike Ford

    Saw his first postseason action as ALWC Game 2 sub. Roster spot could be in jeopardy if they decide to add Miguel Andujar.

    Outfielders

    Aaron Judge

    His first inning Game 1 homer off Cleveland ace Shane Bieber announced Yankees’ entry into postseason. Played just four games (4-for-17, 1 HR) vs. Rays this year.

    Giancarlo Stanton

    Homered in both ALWC games vs. Cleveland, walked to start Game 2 ninth inning rally. Played only three games vs. Rays in 2020 (2-for-7, HR).

    Aaron Hicks

    Switch-hitting No. 3 batter went 1-for-8 (3 walks) vs. Cleveland, only hit being a misplayed triple. Batted .172 (5-for-29, 0 RBI) vs. Rays this year.

    Brett Gardner

    Started over Frazier in both ALWC games vs. Cleveland and might continue to do so, even vs. Rays’ lefty starters. In 8 AB's scored 3 R's on 3 H's with a HR, .500 OBP, .375 ave. Batted just .136 (3-for-22, 0 RBI) in seven games vs. Rays this year.

    Clint Frazier

    Went 1-for-21 with 11 strikeouts down the stretch, losing his hold on left field to the surging Gardner. Struck out as a pinch-hitter in his only ALWC appearance in Game 2.

    Mike Tauchman

    Strictly in a reserve role, had just nine plate appearances in Yanks’ final nine regular season games. Pinch ran and scored in only ALWC appearance in Game 2.

    Catchers

    Gary Sanchez

    His two-run homer and game-tying, ninth inning sac fly were key moments in ALWC Game 2 win. Batted .125 (3-for-24, 1 RBI) in eight games vs. Rays this year, reflecting rough 2020 season.

    Kyle Higashioka

    Should continue to exclusively catch Gerrit Cole, who is 4-1 with a 1.32 ERA over five straight starts with the backup receiver, including ALWC Game 1.

    Erik Kratz

    Did not appear in the ALWC vs. Cleveland. Yanks could continue to carry the 40-year-old third catcher, allowing more freedom to pinch hit with Sanchez.

    Pitchers

    Gerrit Cole

    His Yankees’ postseason debut (7 IP, 2 ER, 13 Ks) helped set the tone for October. Starts Game 1, but would he come back on short rest to start a Game 5? Went 0-1, 4.96 ERA in three starts vs. Rays in 2020.

    Masahiro Tanaka

    Rainy/windy conditions contributed to rough ALWC start at Cleveland. Uncertain if he’ll go in ALDS Game 2, or a clincher or elimination game. In three starts vs. Rays this year, went 1-1 with 4.20 ERA.

    J.A. Happ

    Would have started a deciding ALWC Game 3. Does he start Game 2, 3, 4 or 5 vs. Rays? Veteran lefty pitched to a 2.22 ERA over his final four regular season starts with 27 strikeouts, 4 walks in 24.1 innings.

    Deivi Garcia

    Confident rookie is expected to make his first postseason start at some point vs. Rays, a team that has never seen him in a big-league game.

    Jordan Montgomery

    The lefty is a candidate to start at some point in the ALDS. Had an inconsistent regular season but sharper in his final three starts (4.02 ERA), with 24 strikeouts vs. 3 walks in 15.2 innings.

    Aroldis Chapman

    Season delayed by COVID-19 positive. After early command issues, lefty flame-thrower added a splitter and is pitching at his best in 2020, with eight straight scoreless outings (9.2 IP, 21 Ks) including two-inning win in ALWC clincher.

    Zack Britton

    Finished regular season strong with eight consecutive scoreless appearances, but arguably pulled prematurely in ALWC Game 2 after pair of two-out walks in his second inning of work. Went 0-2 this year vs. Rays with 7.71 ERA in three games.

    Chad Green

    Yielded two inherited runs on Jose Ramirez double in ALWC Game 2, then stranded Ramirez at third with none out. A multi-inning weapon who could even be used as an opener in Game 5.

    Jonathan Loaisiga

    Entered ALWC Game 2 in a high-leveraged spot and hung a breaking ball that Jordan Luplow clobbered for game-tying, two-run double. Physically fine since undisclosed medical issue last month.

    Adam Ottavino

    Did not appear in ALWC as Loaisiga got the call ahead of him in Game 2, showing how far he’s fallen out of the late-game mix. But they’ll need him to find his sharp slider in a hurry in the ALDS.

    Luis Cessa

    Got the final six outs in ALWC Game 1, following Cole in a blowout win at Cleveland. Mostly, a multi-inning choice to save the high-leverage bullpen arms for another day.

    Jonathan Holder

    Did not appear in ALWC after a rough finish to the regular season yielding eight runs on 10 hits (2 homers) and three walks in 4.1 innings over three appearances.

    Nick Nelson

    Had a solid rookie season under the radar. Got the postseason roster nod over Michael King and Clarke Schmidt with a September ERA of 2.45 over six games, holding opponents to .189 average.

    While we don’t know the exact starting pitching matchups, the Rays are going to be getting the best of it for sure. Gerrit Cole is a stud, and he finished the regular season by going 3-0 in his final three starts, with a combined 21 innings pitched, allowing just two earned runs, while striking out 24. Cole carried that success into the postseason and was stellar in game one against the Cleveland Indians, working seven innings, giving up only two runs, and striking out 13.

    Cole is the man and will be tough to beat in game one and game five if needed. But outside of Cole, the Yankees has a lot of question marks on the mound. Masahiro Tanaka has a history of pitching well in the postseason, but he got blasted in game two against Cleveland, giving up six earned runs in four innings of work, the mighty Yankees lineup bailed Tanaka out in game two. New York will likely go with some combination of Deivi Garcia, Jordan Montgomery, and JA Happ in games three and four.

    Blake Snell is a former Cy Young Award winner, and while I do still see Gerrit Cole as the better game one starter, Snell is very good as well. Snell finished the regular season pitching well after some early-season struggles, and in the Rays game one game against the Toronto Blue Jays, Snell was light’s out, working 5.2 innings, giving up no runs on only one hit, while punching out nine Blue Jays.

    After Snell, the Rays have Tyler Glasnow, a Cy Young Award candidate last year before getting hurt, ready to go in game two. Glasnow had a rocky start to his season but was pitching well at the end of the year, and against Toronto, he coasted to the series-clinching win while working six innings, giving up two runs, and striking out eight.

    Charlie Morton will likely be the Rays game three starter, and while his season was cut short due to injury, and he hasn’t been great since returning, as the Rays have used him very sparingly, in his last three years before this year’s injury-riddled campaign, Morton had a combined record of 45-16 with an ERA below three and a half runs.
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    In my opinion this will be the most exciting series of the playoffs for the Yankees. There is bad blood, and quite honestly I think the Ray's are the best team in the playoffs other than maybe LA.

    Having Cole pitch twice in a five game series is huge.

    Game 3 and 4 are gonna be total shitshows for the Yankees though. Some combination of Deivi Garcia, Jordan Monygomery, and JA Happ will likely start and they will have a quick hook with lots of bullpen play.

    This is going to be a very tough series for the Yankees to win, but I would anticipate a lot of tight games and a fantastic series.

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    I agree. Games 3-4 will be critical. I am guessing Happ gets the nod. Which Happ shows up? Hopefully the one we have seen the last 7 games where he pitched to a 2.34 ERA over 42 innings with 39K's and a 0.87 WHIP.
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    I honestly don’t know for sure who will win this series . But one thing I do know is that whoever wins that series will make it to the World Series .

    If this series is decided by pitching I feel Tampa wins because the only thing the yanks have in regards to a sure thing starting pitching wise is Cole and he could start 2 games but it would have to go 5 .

    If it is decided by offense then I feel the Yankees win that series since they have more power .

    I do think it goes atleast 4 games possibly 5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    I honestly don’t know for sure who will win this series . But one thing I do know is that whoever wins that series will make it to the World Series .

    If this series is decided by pitching I feel Tampa wins because the only thing the yanks have in regards to a sure thing starting pitching wise is Cole and he could start 2 games but it would have to go 5 .

    If it is decided by offense then I feel the Yankees win that series since they have more power .

    I do think it goes atleast 4 games possibly 5
    This is what its all about. Its gonna be fun to watch.

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    on paper yanks are a better team for talent and the best starter.. dj missed 3 games judge 6 games and stanton 7 games vs tampa this year.. now the yanks are totally healthy...also tampa outhomered the yanks in the season series that won't happen now that the yanks are healthy....

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    Quote Originally Posted by drt1010 View Post
    The first pitch of the New York Yankees and Tampa Bay Rays will be at 8:07 p.m. on Monday in Game 1 of their American League Division Series.

    The game will be televised on TBS nationally from Petco Park in San Diego, where the entire five-game series will be played.

    Gerrit Cole (7-3, 2.84) is scheduled to start for New York. He pitched seven innings in Tuesday's win over Cleveland, striking out 13 while allowing two runs on six hits.

    The times for the rest of the series have yet to be announced.

    Yankees and Rays will play games 1 and 2 of the ALDS at 8pm on TBS, games 3-5 at 7pm on TBS.

    Here is the rest of the ALDS schedule:

    Game 2: Tuesday, Oct. 6

    Game 3: Wednesday, Oct. 7

    Game 4: Thursday, Oct. 8

    Game 5: Friday, Oct. 9

    The Rays won the season series, 8-2, from the Yankees on their way to winning the AL East by seven games.

    Heading into the AL Division Series against the top-seeded Tampa Bay Rays, Yankees manager Aaron Boone is still figuring out how to best utilize his starting rotation without benefit of an off day.

    “You’re going to have to lean on more guys on the roster,’’ Boone said of the challenge to manage this series, “mostly from the pitching standpoint.’’

    Rays manager Kevin Cash has a similar dilemma, though Tampa Bay has a deep and reliable bullpen to help navigate through a best-of-five series.

    The Yankees came into the 2020 season as the prohibitive favorites to win both the AL East Division title and the American League Pennant. They were co-favorites, with the Los Angeles Dodgers, to win the World Series. To say this team was expected to be good would be quite the understatement, they were expected to be the class of the league.

    Early in the season, New York looked every bit the favorites. The Yankees jumped out to an 8-1 record, and at nearly the halfway point of the season, they stood at an American League-best 16-6 record. It looked like the Yankees were going to live up to their ample hype and run away with the AL East Division title. But then disaster struck, as New York started losing key players, seemingly daily, and after losing seven straight games, the Yankees fell from a first-place lock, to being at risk of missing the postseason.

    While the Tampa Bay Rays certainly weren’t the favorites in the AL East coming into the year, they were absolutely expected to be a good team, and many people, myself included, felt that they were a very sexy dark horse World Series favorite. We all knew that Tampa Bay could pitch, with their trio of Cy Young Award candidate starters and elite bullpen, the question was, could they score enough runs to hang with higher scoring AL teams like the Yankees, Athletics, Astros, and White Sox.

    Those questions were answered early in the season, as the Rays have been surprisingly strong at the plate since Opening Day. Tampa Bay started out the year by winning four out of their first five games and were nearly unbeatable in August. The Rays won 19 of their final 22 games in August, to take full control of the American League East Division. After that MLB best run, coupled with struggles from the Blue Jays and the Yankees, the Rays all but locked up the division title with a full month of the season left to play.

    Here’s an individual look at how the Yankees stack up heading into the next round:

    Infielders

    DJ LeMahieu

    The team’s MVP had the game-winning hit in the AL Wild Card clincher. Batted .333 (10-for-30) with .908 OPS vs. Rays in seven games this year.

    Luke Voit

    Still hobbling on a bad foot, but it hasn’t impacted his hitting. Batted .333 (11-for-33) with four of his 22 homers vs. the Rays in 2020.

    Gleyber Torres

    Came alive in the ALWS (5-for-7, HR, 3 walks) vs. Cleveland after a disappointing regular season. Batted .182 (4-for-22, 1 RBI) in seven games vs. Rays this year.

    Gio Urshela

    The hero of ALWC Game 2 with a grand slam, key ninth inning hit and stunning, essential defensive play. Hit .294 (10-for-34, 9 RBI) with .904 OPS in 10 games vs. Rays in 2020.

    Tyler Wade

    Versatile backup infielder saw his first career postseason action as a sub during ALWC vs. Cleveland. Pinch-hit for by Clint Frazier in Game 2.

    Mike Ford

    Saw his first postseason action as ALWC Game 2 sub. Roster spot could be in jeopardy if they decide to add Miguel Andujar.

    Outfielders

    Aaron Judge

    His first inning Game 1 homer off Cleveland ace Shane Bieber announced Yankees’ entry into postseason. Played just four games (4-for-17, 1 HR) vs. Rays this year.

    Giancarlo Stanton

    Homered in both ALWC games vs. Cleveland, walked to start Game 2 ninth inning rally. Played only three games vs. Rays in 2020 (2-for-7, HR).

    Aaron Hicks

    Switch-hitting No. 3 batter went 1-for-8 (3 walks) vs. Cleveland, only hit being a misplayed triple. Batted .172 (5-for-29, 0 RBI) vs. Rays this year.

    Brett Gardner

    Started over Frazier in both ALWC games vs. Cleveland and might continue to do so, even vs. Rays’ lefty starters. In 8 AB's scored 3 R's on 3 H's with a HR, .500 OBP, .375 ave. Batted just .136 (3-for-22, 0 RBI) in seven games vs. Rays this year.

    Clint Frazier

    Went 1-for-21 with 11 strikeouts down the stretch, losing his hold on left field to the surging Gardner. Struck out as a pinch-hitter in his only ALWC appearance in Game 2.

    Mike Tauchman

    Strictly in a reserve role, had just nine plate appearances in Yanks’ final nine regular season games. Pinch ran and scored in only ALWC appearance in Game 2.

    Catchers

    Gary Sanchez

    His two-run homer and game-tying, ninth inning sac fly were key moments in ALWC Game 2 win. Batted .125 (3-for-24, 1 RBI) in eight games vs. Rays this year, reflecting rough 2020 season.

    Kyle Higashioka

    Should continue to exclusively catch Gerrit Cole, who is 4-1 with a 1.32 ERA over five straight starts with the backup receiver, including ALWC Game 1.

    Erik Kratz

    Did not appear in the ALWC vs. Cleveland. Yanks could continue to carry the 40-year-old third catcher, allowing more freedom to pinch hit with Sanchez.

    Pitchers

    Gerrit Cole

    His Yankees’ postseason debut (7 IP, 2 ER, 13 Ks) helped set the tone for October. Starts Game 1, but would he come back on short rest to start a Game 5? Went 0-1, 4.96 ERA in three starts vs. Rays in 2020.

    Masahiro Tanaka

    Rainy/windy conditions contributed to rough ALWC start at Cleveland. Uncertain if he’ll go in ALDS Game 2, or a clincher or elimination game. In three starts vs. Rays this year, went 1-1 with 4.20 ERA.

    J.A. Happ

    Would have started a deciding ALWC Game 3. Does he start Game 2, 3, 4 or 5 vs. Rays? Veteran lefty pitched to a 2.22 ERA over his final four regular season starts with 27 strikeouts, 4 walks in 24.1 innings.

    Deivi Garcia

    Confident rookie is expected to make his first postseason start at some point vs. Rays, a team that has never seen him in a big-league game.

    Jordan Montgomery

    The lefty is a candidate to start at some point in the ALDS. Had an inconsistent regular season but sharper in his final three starts (4.02 ERA), with 24 strikeouts vs. 3 walks in 15.2 innings.

    Aroldis Chapman

    Season delayed by COVID-19 positive. After early command issues, lefty flame-thrower added a splitter and is pitching at his best in 2020, with eight straight scoreless outings (9.2 IP, 21 Ks) including two-inning win in ALWC clincher.

    Zack Britton

    Finished regular season strong with eight consecutive scoreless appearances, but arguably pulled prematurely in ALWC Game 2 after pair of two-out walks in his second inning of work. Went 0-2 this year vs. Rays with 7.71 ERA in three games.

    Chad Green

    Yielded two inherited runs on Jose Ramirez double in ALWC Game 2, then stranded Ramirez at third with none out. A multi-inning weapon who could even be used as an opener in Game 5.

    Jonathan Loaisiga

    Entered ALWC Game 2 in a high-leveraged spot and hung a breaking ball that Jordan Luplow clobbered for game-tying, two-run double. Physically fine since undisclosed medical issue last month.

    Adam Ottavino

    Did not appear in ALWC as Loaisiga got the call ahead of him in Game 2, showing how far he’s fallen out of the late-game mix. But they’ll need him to find his sharp slider in a hurry in the ALDS.

    Luis Cessa

    Got the final six outs in ALWC Game 1, following Cole in a blowout win at Cleveland. Mostly, a multi-inning choice to save the high-leverage bullpen arms for another day.

    Jonathan Holder

    Did not appear in ALWC after a rough finish to the regular season yielding eight runs on 10 hits (2 homers) and three walks in 4.1 innings over three appearances.

    Nick Nelson

    Had a solid rookie season under the radar. Got the postseason roster nod over Michael King and Clarke Schmidt with a September ERA of 2.45 over six games, holding opponents to .189 average.

    While we don’t know the exact starting pitching matchups, the Rays are going to be getting the best of it for sure. Gerrit Cole is a stud, and he finished the regular season by going 3-0 in his final three starts, with a combined 21 innings pitched, allowing just two earned runs, while striking out 24. Cole carried that success into the postseason and was stellar in game one against the Cleveland Indians, working seven innings, giving up only two runs, and striking out 13.

    Cole is the man and will be tough to beat in game one and game five if needed. But outside of Cole, the Yankees has a lot of question marks on the mound. Masahiro Tanaka has a history of pitching well in the postseason, but he got blasted in game two against Cleveland, giving up six earned runs in four innings of work, the mighty Yankees lineup bailed Tanaka out in game two. New York will likely go with some combination of Deivi Garcia, Jordan Montgomery, and JA Happ in games three and four.

    Blake Snell is a former Cy Young Award winner, and while I do still see Gerrit Cole as the better game one starter, Snell is very good as well. Snell finished the regular season pitching well after some early-season struggles, and in the Rays game one game against the Toronto Blue Jays, Snell was light’s out, working 5.2 innings, giving up no runs on only one hit, while punching out nine Blue Jays.

    After Snell, the Rays have Tyler Glasnow, a Cy Young Award candidate last year before getting hurt, ready to go in game two. Glasnow had a rocky start to his season but was pitching well at the end of the year, and against Toronto, he coasted to the series-clinching win while working six innings, giving up two runs, and striking out eight.

    Charlie Morton will likely be the Rays game three starter, and while his season was cut short due to injury, and he hasn’t been great since returning, as the Rays have used him very sparingly, in his last three years before this year’s injury-riddled campaign, Morton had a combined record of 45-16 with an ERA below three and a half runs.
    yanks usually beat up snell but that game no dj judge or stanton if i am correct..

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    Yanks must win in the Gerit Cole starts.

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    Voit snd mysterious foot injury is still an issue.

    I’d start wade at SS and DJ at 1st with Torres back at 2nd

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    Rays are a tough cookie folks.

    They have an endless supply of bullpen parts.

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    I really wonder how much not having either team have any kind of homef field advantage. With a series thats this close i would usually favor the team with the HFA but no one has that either.

    Imo whichever team wins the 1st game wins the series.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    Voit snd mysterious foot injury is still an issue.

    I’d start wade at SS and DJ at 1st with Torres back at 2nd


    That's insane. You don't replace the RH home run leader with a LH punch and Judy hitter against a LH pitcher. Why you would do that is mind boggling.
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    ^ Its coming from Mush, he gets a little extra excited during the playoffs . Thats why we love him

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    ^ Its coming from Mush, he gets a little extra excited during the playoffs . Thats why we love him
    Add to that, he was surprisingly calm in the first round



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    Feel like they have to win both Cole's starts.

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