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    Does Trump concede a loss on November 3?

    Get yourself on the record now.

    Democrats have been laughed at for the past 4 years suggesting he wouldn't.

    Who has a prediction for how it will play out?

    My prediction:

    1. Trump loses and challenges all of the election results for mail in balloting, especially as the votes come in past election night. Trump argument is they shouldn't be allowed as they are past the election night. Problematic because Democrats are more likely to do mail in balloting. This drags on to the Supreme Court where he believes a 6-3 court will deliver him a win. The Supreme Court doesn't deliver him a win, which he then appeals. Loses the appeal, still doesn't concede, but Republicans effectively ignore him and they carry on with a Biden presidency. Democrats are ridiculed because of their recent outrage over a 6-3 Con SC which ironically went on to defeat Trump's claims.

    Trump and his supporters go to their graves believing the election was rigged and that it was stolen, refusing to believe he lost.


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    Doubt he concedes on the night of election. It'll likely be close and he's not going to concede unless Biden has an overwhelming lead (and even then, I wouldn't assume Trump would concede so soon).

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    Yeah he won’t at all, he may say he lost due to a rigged election and whine that mail in ballots were fraudulent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    he may say he lost due to a rigged election and whine that mail in ballots were fraudulent.
    Probably this..

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    Speaking from a complete point of ignorance here.

    Is there any shot its a repeat of 2016?

    I didn't think he was going to win then, nor do I think he will now.

    But could the polls and what not be misleading and he somehow pulls off reelection?

    I really don't know but open to any insight you all may have on the matter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NBA all the way View Post
    Speaking from a complete point of ignorance here.

    Is there any shot its a repeat of 2016?

    I didn't think he was going to win then, nor do I think he will now.

    But could the polls and what not be misleading and he somehow pulls off reelection?

    I really don't know but open to any insight you all may have on the matter.
    This is way different than 2016. Very few people expected him to win then, whereas now I think most people agree that he has a very real shot at winning (despite his obvious shortcomings). Obviously, I'm no fan of Trump but I 100% expect the 2020 presidential election results to be very close.

    Are current polls projecting some sort of landslide Biden victory? If so, that is news to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    This is way different than 2016. Very few people expected him to win then, whereas now I think most people agree that he has a very real shot at winning (despite his obvious shortcomings). Obviously, I'm no fan of Trump but I 100% expect the 2020 presidential election results to be very close.

    Are current polls projecting some sort of landslide Biden victory? If so, that is news to me.
    Idk like who the even valid or reputable polling sites/entities are but just from logging in/out of e-mail, a little social media and surfing the web, from what I've gathered the polls say Biden is ahead in most battleground states. As it did in 2016, I think. So I just didn't know if the "silent majority" or w.e political term gets tossed around is real or if like you said it'll be a close race, I'm just unsure if it's leaning one way or the other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NBA all the way View Post
    Idk like who the even valid or reputable polling sites/entities are but just from logging in/out of e-mail, a little social media and surfing the web, from what I've gathered the polls say Biden is ahead in most battleground states. As it did in 2016, I think. So I just didn't know if the "silent majority" or w.e political term gets tossed around is real or if like you said it'll be a close race, I'm just unsure if it's leaning one way or the other.
    Seems to be leaning Biden by a small amount from what I've seen. Nothing like the landslide victory everyone was predicting for Clinton in '16.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NBA all the way View Post
    Idk like who the even valid or reputable polling sites/entities are but just from logging in/out of e-mail, a little social media and surfing the web, from what I've gathered the polls say Biden is ahead in most battleground states. As it did in 2016, I think. So I just didn't know if the "silent majority" or w.e political term gets tossed around is real or if like you said it'll be a close race, I'm just unsure if it's leaning one way or the other.
    In 2016 their were a lot of people that may have said they would vote for Hillary and needed up voting for him.

    I think now his supporters are up front about it, no more hiding their feelings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    This is way different than 2016. Very few people expected him to win then, whereas now I think most people agree that he has a very real shot at winning (despite his obvious shortcomings). Obviously, I'm no fan of Trump but I 100% expect the 2020 presidential election results to be very close.

    Are current polls projecting some sort of landslide Biden victory? If so, that is news to me.
    Look at most of the polls ins battleground states and their close or within the margin of error, once in a while we see a poll saying Biden has a 10 point lead.

    But the interesting thing is that places like Arizona, Texas and Georgia are close. Those have been red states for a long time. Ohio has been a red state in recent history and he is behind there. He can’t lose too many of these states to repeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NBA all the way View Post
    Speaking from a complete point of ignorance here.

    Is there any shot its a repeat of 2016?

    I didn't think he was going to win then, nor do I think he will now.

    But could the polls and what not be misleading and he somehow pulls off reelection?

    I really don't know but open to any insight you all may have on the matter.
    I've been following 538. They had Hilary winning but Trump was well within the margin of error, so they weren't necessarily wrong, Trump just covered the spread. For 2020, they have Biden winning nationally well outside the margin of error, but electorally it's pretty close. Most of the battleground states that Biden is leading, Trump is within the margin of error again, so he'll definitely lose the popular vote again, but still can win the electoral college.

    I think we're all pretty skeptical of polling because of the last election, and rightfully so. The media really cherrypicked certain polls. I find 538 is one of the better sites. They accumulate polling, grade them on methodology and sampling, and give a confidence grade as to how accurate they are. They'll be critical of them as well, and point to certain errors or possible missed demographs in their samples. It's interesting. Of course you'll need to understand polling and statistics, but they usually do a pretty good job explaining polling, certain polls, the vocabulary and what's important and not. Their podcasts are good listens IMO.

    That being said, polling shows what people should do come voting time. That's different then what people actually do.


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    Quote Originally Posted by statquo View Post
    I've been following 538. They had Hilary winning but Trump was well within the margin of error, so they weren't necessarily wrong, Trump just covered the spread. For 2020, they have Biden winning nationally well outside the margin of error, but electorally it's pretty close. Most of the battleground states that Biden is leading, Trump is within the margin of error again, so he'll definitely lose the popular vote again, but still can win the electoral college.

    I think we're all pretty skeptical of polling because of the last election, and rightfully so. The media really cherrypicked certain polls. I find 538 is one of the better sites. They accumulate polling, grade them on methodology and sampling, and give a confidence grade as to how accurate they are. They'll be critical of them as well, and point to certain errors or possible missed demographs in their samples. It's interesting. Of course you'll need to understand polling and statistics, but they usually do a pretty good job explaining polling, certain polls, the vocabulary and what's important and not. Their podcasts are good listens IMO.

    That being said, polling shows what people should do come voting time. That's different then what people actually do.
    Very informative post!

    I was reading a bit about it but don't some polls forget or just flat out don't account for education level as well and that can skew the numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NBA all the way View Post
    Speaking from a complete point of ignorance here.

    Is there any shot its a repeat of 2016?

    I didn't think he was going to win then, nor do I think he will now.

    But could the polls and what not be misleading and he somehow pulls off reelection?

    I really don't know but open to any insight you all may have on the matter.
    I had a feeling he would win in 2016, just though Hillary was just too hated fairly or unfairly.

    This year I don’t see it, but would I bet on it? **** no!!!!

    Also I think a lot of those people that were undecided gave him the benefit of the doubt, now it’s pretty clear who he is.

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    Oh I think he has a very good shot at winning. The rbg death alone is going to bump his votes. If he gets a judge in and appointed I'd think it'd be an upset if he lost.



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