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    Most untradeable contracts

    Seeing the news on John Wall; and the concerns it brings up; rank these “untradeable contracts” out there:

    Al Horford
    Russell Westbrook
    Andrew Wiggins
    John Wall

    Which one would you most like on your team? Which one wouldn’t you like? What team would have to give up the most to move the player?

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    Horford is easily the best of the bunch for me. If he wasn’t on a team where the GM just has a fetish for tall guys like a college girl he can still contribute to winning at a solid level.


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    Quote Originally Posted by hugepatsfan View Post
    Horford is easily the best of the bunch for me. If he wasn’t on a team where the GM just has a fetish for tall guys like a college girl he can still contribute to winning at a solid level.
    The Celtics should trade Hayward for Horford and Milton. Take a chance that Horford will be a quality contributor through the end of his contract. Milton can provide a nice punch of the bench. The 76ers have to sacrifice Milton to get out of Horford's contract, but they also get a yearlong shot at Hayward, who fits anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrblisterdundee View Post
    The Celtics should trade Hayward for Horford and Milton. Take a chance that Horford will be a quality contributor through the end of his contract. Milton can provide a nice punch of the bench. The 76ers have to sacrifice Milton to get out of Horford's contract, but they also get a yearlong shot at Hayward, who fits anywhere.
    There is no way Philly engages in trade talks with Boston after the last few years. 1. The boat on Horford has passed. He left because he didn’t want to play the 5 and that’s what he would play in Boston. 2. Hayward would be a good fit on Philly. Can handle the ball, shoot, score.


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    Quote Originally Posted by PAOboston View Post
    There is no way Philly engages in trade talks with Boston after the last few years. 1. The boat on Horford has passed. He left because he didn’t want to play the 5 and that’s what he would play in Boston. 2. Hayward would be a good fit on Philly. Can handle the ball, shoot, score.
    Zero interest in bringing back Horford. Outside of shooting he's not an upgrade over Theis, and just would serve to take minutes away from Rob Williams.

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    If I had to take on a bad contract I would want Russ on my team but as far as who I wouldn't like it would be Wiggins but as far as what teams would have to give up to get any of these players it would have to be future draft picks and pick swaps but also multiple players going via trade to land specifically Westbrook or even John Wall for that matter

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    I'd say Wall, Westbrook, Wiggins and Horford would be the order of most untradeable. They all have basically the same amount of time left.

    Horford is the cheapest and the most playable on a good team. He has value, he's just an awful fit on that team. That being said, given his age, it's still not an easy move.

    I'd put Wiggins next mostly due to salary amount. He's pretty noticeably cheaper than the other 2. It's also pretty biased, but GS has the assets to unload him, so it's not hard seeing him on the move. He's also the youngest of the group and if he were to ever truly buy in to playing defense, he could be an okay rotational peice for a good team. He'd be too expensive, but at least playable.

    Wall and Westbrook are really similar deals and ages. The next time we see Wall will basically be the first time in 2 years, so Westbrook almost wins by default cuz of that. Westbrook has also won an mvp recently too. I could see a team like New York willing to take him on to sell tickets. Not sure wall really seeks tickets anymore.

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    Westbrook on the Knicks I would just love it just so I can see the Knicks misery get even worse

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    I always loved Westbrook and Wall and the Knicks have a glaring need at PG so probably one of them. Maybe Wall because he is 28 and Westy is 31. That's a big difference for PGs that rely on athleticism. Wall might just be cooked though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KnicksorBust View Post
    I always loved Westbrook and Wall and the Knicks have a glaring need at PG so probably one of them. Maybe Wall because he is 28 and Westy is 31. That's a big difference for PGs that rely on athleticism. Wall might just be cooked though.
    Wall was also on video in NYC throwing up gang signs. So there’s that. Also Wall is 30 not 28.

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    I don’t see concerns for Wall and I don’t think he needed to apologize. He’s been in a gang his whole career and he’s been throwing up gang signs during games his whole career lol. Unless there was more to it I missed.

    Out of that group probably Horford for my team though if Kevin Love was listed it would be him.

    I’ve been seeing rumors of the amnesty coming back this offseason so I’m curious to see if that happens and where some of these guys land.

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    Wall is by far the worst contract of the bunch. Dude hasn't played since Christmas of 2018. He relied on athleticism and is now out of his prime and owed $129 million over the next 3 seasons, with a cap drop. Plus doing stupid stuff off the court, I'm good on that.

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    John Wall or Westbrook on the Knicks...I would laugh at either move because that is the Knicks trying to be relevant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tg11 View Post
    John Wall or Westbrook on the Knicks...I would laugh at either move because that is the Knicks trying to be relevant
    The Knicks can't attract free agents and don't draft well.

    John at PG and Blake at Center is the only way they can get star power, by trading for it. But they don't even really have the assets to do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NBA all the way View Post
    The Knicks can't attract free agents and don't draft well.

    John at PG and Blake at Center is the only way they can get star power, by trading for it. But they don't even really have the assets to do that.
    I actually think they do if the teams that have those guys want to get rid of them.

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