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    2020-2021 Bucks Offseason

    What are we thinking the bucks should do this offseason. It's could be a pivotal offseason. Here's the checklist for sure and obviously other moves can happen, but here's the biggest questions.

    1. Will giannis accept the max extension?
    1a. If he doesn't, do you entertain trading him if the offer is right or do you go all in to try to win next year and retain him.

    2. Who's the coach next year?

    3. What do you do with Bledsoe and to a lesser extent the rest of the roster? Who's back and who's gone?

    4. How do you change the roster? Who are your targets? Who are you willing to move?

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    For me, bud can't be back if giannis doesn't sign an extension. Unless giannis loves him for some reason, we have to try something new. Bud's reputation before Milwaukee was he's a great regular season coach but doesn't adjust in the playoffs. The defense of him was those hawks teams just lacked a star. But hes done nothing to dispel that. The players are partially to blame too, but bud is an easy change since coachs dont impact the cap.

    We have to find a way to move Bledsoe. He's proven time and time again he can't be trusted in the playoffs. He's not going to be easy to move, but he onlt has 2 years under contract as his final year isn't fully guaranteed. So he might be movable. I actually really like brook lopez, but giannis at center might be the solution we need for this team. I'd definitely entertain offers for him too if a team wants a big who can shoot it a little. I'm not moving him no matter what, but I'm not hanging up the phone is someone asks.

    DD can be valuable, but if he's the peice that needs to be included to get us a lead guard, I'm not married to him.

    As for free agents. Ro-Lo almost certainly accepts him player option. I hope Wes does too as he's cheap. If Pat C comes back for close to the minimum, I'd have him, but other than that, he could leave. Same for korver. At the minimum, he's fine. Much more than that and he can leave. Sterling can leave. Ersan should either be traded prior to his contract being voided or have his contract voided. We still need a stretch 4 type of guy, but he's not worth $7 mill.

    No one really knows what the cap will be. But assuming it doesn't go beyond the original $116 mill projection, which there's about 0% chance it goes above that, there's virtually no way to get under the cap. So we'll have a mid level exception and vet minimum types do guys to improve the roster with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crewfan13 View Post
    For me, bud can't be back if giannis doesn't sign an extension. Unless giannis loves him for some reason, we have to try something new. Bud's reputation before Milwaukee was he's a great regular season coach but doesn't adjust in the playoffs. The defense of him was those hawks teams just lacked a star. But hes done nothing to dispel that. The players are partially to blame too, but bud is an easy change since coachs dont impact the cap.

    We have to find a way to move Bledsoe. He's proven time and time again he can't be trusted in the playoffs. He's not going to be easy to move, but he onlt has 2 years under contract as his final year isn't fully guaranteed. So he might be movable. I actually really like brook lopez, but giannis at center might be the solution we need for this team. I'd definitely entertain offers for him too if a team wants a big who can shoot it a little. I'm not moving him no matter what, but I'm not hanging up the phone is someone asks.

    DD can be valuable, but if he's the peice that needs to be included to get us a lead guard, I'm not married to him.

    As for free agents. Ro-Lo almost certainly accepts him player option. I hope Wes does too as he's cheap. If Pat C comes back for close to the minimum, I'd have him, but other than that, he could leave. Same for korver. At the minimum, he's fine. Much more than that and he can leave. Sterling can leave. Ersan should either be traded prior to his contract being voided or have his contract voided. We still need a stretch 4 type of guy, but he's not worth $7 mill.

    No one really knows what the cap will be. But assuming it doesn't go beyond the original $116 mill projection, which there's about 0% chance it goes above that, there's virtually no way to get under the cap. So we'll have a mid level exception and vet minimum types do guys to improve the roster with.
    Pretty much agree with all of this. And really agree on your Giannis being at center. Bud doesn't experiment with things enough in the regular season and doesn't adjust in the playoffs. Not a good combo.

    Bucks aren't going to be able to sign people cap wise so I don't know why all this chatter for CP3. I do think his attitude would be great for this team. But I do think this team really needs to be more dynamic on the perimeter. Too many spot-up specialists and not enough athletic wings who can go off the bounce and defend multiple positions. Look at Boston, Toronto, LAC etc. You need athletic guys. Korver, PC are basically catch and shoot guys. Not much off the bounce.

    Bledsoe has to go. You need a guy who can step up and take over and let Giannis not have to do everything or be relied on so much. Let him rest when he plays some. You can't have a PG that can't shoot alongside him cuz come playoff time they build a wall and youre gonna have to hit some shots.

    One guy who would be better offensively and still a good defender is Jrue Holiday. I would give Lopez/Bled could go as NO could use a big like Lopez. I just am not sure how this team is going to get too much better on paper but skillset wise this team needs to go after an athletic wing maybe Barton from Denver. I have no idea on his availability though. If there was a way to get Beal I would go hard after him.

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    Same. I'd absolutely make a call on Beal at least just to check on, but there's about a 0% chance that happens. Too many other teams with more valuable picks would likely at least call.

    Jrue holiday has been my pipe dream for a few weeks. He too seems unlikely, but I think there's at least a chance. Realistically, we'd have to hope they really like donte or really want to free up some space, because something like Bled, Ersan's non guaranteed and DD or DJ with at least this year's pick, maybe an additional pick could work. That would be a fantastic get for us. He's just as good defensively as Bledsoe and he's much better offensively.

    Chris Paul scares me as well. I think he'd help for sure but we're basically done if we bring him in. He makes some big plays, but let's not forget his 35 and also has never made the finals. It not like he's crazy experienced down the stretch in the playoffs. Depending the price, he definitely makes sense, but that's a tough contract to swallow for a guy that old. I'd love to have him as a player, but making that contract work is kind of tough.

    Another guy that could be had I think is buddy heild. I'm not even sure how I feel about him. He signed a big extension in Sac, but fell out of favor. Perhaps a chance of scenery to a winning team can ignite something inside of him. If he puts in better defensive effort and buys in, he'd be a really nice add. If he doesn't, he could be trouble. Our buddy mouseslept brought up bogdanovic from Sac, and he would be a good get for sure, but heild might be more realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crewfan13 View Post
    Same. I'd absolutely make a call on Beal at least just to check on, but there's about a 0% chance that happens. Too many other teams with more valuable picks would likely at least call.

    Jrue holiday has been my pipe dream for a few weeks. He too seems unlikely, but I think there's at least a chance. Realistically, we'd have to hope they really like donte or really want to free up some space, because something like Bled, Ersan's non guaranteed and DD or DJ with at least this year's pick, maybe an additional pick could work. That would be a fantastic get for us. He's just as good defensively as Bledsoe and he's much better offensively.

    Chris Paul scares me as well. I think he'd help for sure but we're basically done if we bring him in. He makes some big plays, but let's not forget his 35 and also has never made the finals. It not like he's crazy experienced down the stretch in the playoffs. Depending the price, he definitely makes sense, but that's a tough contract to swallow for a guy that old. I'd love to have him as a player, but making that contract work is kind of tough.

    Another guy that could be had I think is buddy heild. I'm not even sure how I feel about him. He signed a big extension in Sac, but fell out of favor. Perhaps a chance of scenery to a winning team can ignite something inside of him. If he puts in better defensive effort and buys in, he'd be a really nice add. If he doesn't, he could be trouble. Our buddy mouseslept brought up bogdanovic from Sac, and he would be a good get for sure, but heild might be more realistic.
    I think NO wants to sign Ingram to max deal not sure financial situation. But if they can pry Jrue away for Bled/Hill (ideally) or Bled/Ersan or something that would be great. Holiday at least has had some big playoff moments. Doesn't stink it up every time.

    I think Hield came to bubble out of shape too. Idk I would have to look into more realistic options. Beal I agree is extremely unlikely. The team could use more athleticism. Need some guys on the perimeter who can do more than catch-and-shoot. Need more guys who can get in lane and make a play for himself and others and defend the wings. Looking at Boston/Miami/Toronto they have long athletic wings who can guard Giannis or Middleton very switchable.

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