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  1. #121
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    Thank goodness for hockey

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    The major problem with this current collection of Yankees that started since about late 2016 is that they are basically ceramic dolls.

    ALL Teams have injuries but not this organization.

    And then idiots think a new training staff was needed to compound it.

    The real problem these players for the most part are not made to play 162. Their bodies break down easily and Cashman while he has a good collection of talent has too many that can’t take the pounding day in and day out.

    You would of thought by now it would have rung a bell in his head. I realize contract get in the way with some but most have not had their first big pact yet and can be traded easily.

    His problem is he likes to hold on to them too long as he doesn’t want to see them get even better but in reality they might have a good season or two but they will eventually break down again, they ALWAYS Do!
    He likes to hold on to them for too long because he is too full of himself to admit he made Mistakes .
    Cashman is just not a very good gm at all . He knows how to put a power offense together but unless he hits the free agent market he has been a total failure on the pitching side of this team . I mean after cole , the yanks starting rotation is no better than the ones George put together back in the late 80s

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    I have been wanting cashman gone for over 10 years now , he and the stupid analytics approach are why this team is in its longest World Series drought Since the 80s
    Yeah, Boone's only in his 3rd year but he's responsible for the Yankees being in their longest drought since the 80's
    Just brilliant..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    He likes to hold on to them for too long because he is too full of himself to admit he made Mistakes .
    Cashman is just not a very good gm at all . He knows how to put a power offense together but unless he hits the free agent market he has been a total failure on the pitching side of this team . I mean after cole , the yanks starting rotation is no better than the ones George put together back in the late 80s
    It was not the late 80s. And a combination of things made George do things that should have not had happened.

    He had a Big 3 of Guidry, John and Righetti in 1981

    After 1983 he put Rags in the bullpen to replace Gossage. Huge mistake, you never take a prized young lefty like he as at the time
    And put him to be the closer. Guidry and John were aging. He tried to trade for younger starters but they were broken down barnacles. The WhiteSox GM traded a broken down stiff to George and he accepted and his GM told George, no, he has a bad hip.

    George actually for good pitchers on paper in the 80s but most couldn’t either handle NY, were injured riddled or were past the age of 40.After 1985 he tried to buy great starters like a Jack Morris but he said no so George had to spend his money elsewhere.

    His free agent picks for starters were always bad to begin with regards to injury prone types.

    Gullet, Catfish, Messersmith were all slated to be with Guidry would all break down. It never worked either in the 80s....

    The Yankees best free agent starters from the 70s to now are

    Catfish- injuries ruined his end, 1975 and 76 were good.
    Gullet- never got through year 2
    Messersmith- never got through year 1
    Tommy John- always did his best and stayed healthy

    Jimmy Key- he was the 3rd choice when Greg Maddux said no to 5/35 in 1992 to Gene Michael and took less with Atlanta...and in 1996 it all came back to him when the no her choice beat him in Game 6 of the WS, Ives thst night.!


    Eli Duque
    David Wells
    CC
    Cole

    Thst is it folks!

    And when we tried to develop our own they get hurt like Sevy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    It was not the late 80s. And a combination of things made George do things that should have not had happened.

    He had a Big 3 of Guidry, John and Righetti in 1981

    After 1983 he put Rags in the bullpen to replace Gossage. Huge mistake, you never take a prized young lefty like he as at the time
    And put him to be the closer. Guidry and John were aging. He tried to trade for younger starters but they were broken down barnacles. The WhiteSox GM traded a broken down stiff to George and he accepted and his GM told George, no, he has a bad hip.

    George actually for good pitchers on paper in the 80s but most couldn’t either handle NY, were injured riddled or were past the age of 40.After 1985 he tried to buy great starters like a Jack Morris but he said no so George had to spend his money elsewhere.

    His free agent picks for starters were always bad to begin with regards to injury prone types.

    Gullet, Catfish, Messersmith were all slated to be with Guidry would all break down. It never worked either in the 80s....

    The Yankees best free agent starters from the 70s to now are

    Catfish- injuries ruined his end, 1975 and 76 were good.
    Gullet- never got through year 2
    Messersmith- never got through year 1
    Tommy John- always did his best and stayed healthy

    Jimmy Key- he was the 3rd choice when Greg Maddux said no to 5/35 in 1992 to Gene Michael and took less with Atlanta...and in 1996 it all came back to him when the no her choice beat him in Game 6 of the WS, Ives thst night.!


    Eli Duque
    David Wells
    CC
    Cole

    Thst is it folks!

    And when we tried to develop our own they get hurt like Sevy.
    Pettitte stayed healthy . But it doesn’t change the fact that other than free agency , cashman has been a failure with starting pitching

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Pettitte stayed healthy . But it doesn’t change the fact that other than free agency , cashman has been a failure with starting pitching
    I was strictly talking about free agent starting pitchers. Pettitte was homegrown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    I was strictly talking about free agent starting pitchers. Pettitte was homegrown.
    Ok I gotcha

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnny ny View Post
    voit had a great start but he not a real impact player on the yanks like judge is.. and voit not a man you want up late in game when you need a big hit...and defensively voit is terrible at first..
    This is factually incorrect. Voit is actually a career .300 hitter with RISP and with RISP with 2 outs. That's what you call clutch. Judge in contrast is more of a .250 hitter or below in those situations. The biggest performers with RISP and late in games are Voit, dj, talkman, urshela, and torres.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webslinger View Post
    This is factually incorrect. Voit is actually a career .300 hitter with RISP and with RISP with 2 outs. That's what you call clutch. Judge in contrast is more of a .250 hitter or below in those situations. The biggest performers with RISP and late in games are Voit, dj, talkman, urshela, and torres.
    The crazy thing is , urshela and voit were meant as insurance options for andujar and bird . And cashman didn’t want dj either, he had to be talked into signing him . That is how flawed a gm cashman is

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    We just got Addison Russ from the Phillies

    He as sent to the alternate site to stay warm.

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    Torres going to the 10 day DL with thst bad hammy!

    Way to go new training staff!

    Actually, it is players, it was never the training staff. They are ALL injury prone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    We just got Addison Russ from the Phillies

    He as sent to the alternate site to stay warm.
    They are gonna need him soon just watch . As for Torres , and the other injuries they really need to stop with the weight and muscle training and go calisthenics and focus on flexibility instead on strength .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    Only thing that is bullspit is your blindness to the fact that this team has deep flaws and Tampa exposed them
    Come on Jorg, i'm still waiting to here how u would improve this team between now and the start of the 21 season.

    Your very quick to criticize the job Cash is doing, so tell us how u would improve what you see as flaws with this team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Posada20 View Post
    The crazy thing is , urshela and voit were meant as insurance options for andujar and bird . And cashman didn’t want dj either, he had to be talked into signing him . That is how flawed a gm cashman is
    where in the world do you hear/ read that? that is completely not how that went down.

    As soon as Machado's camp said he wouldn't sign for the dollars and yrs the Yanks were willing to give him, Cash immediately went to DJ after that and stole him from the Rays

    DJ was never close to being this kind of elite player in Colorado and u have to factor in the Coors field effect. Plus our infield was already stacked so we really didn't even have a place for DJ to play full time. Cashman convinced him to come here for less than what Tampa was offering him to be a super-sub for us. Cashman did a hell of a job to have the foresight to sign him even though our infield was already full and to steal him away from Tampa.

    If people wanted to make a case that Cashman has done a horrible job at finding, developing, signing starting pitching i'd absolutely agree with them. That said u can't fault Cashmans ability to find overlooked position players that haven't been given the chance to breakout. The Voits, Hicks, Gio, Talkman going all the way back to Nick Swisher were amazing finds that cost us practically nothing.

    He's also done a hell of a job rebuilding the farm system and player development programs

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    Quote Originally Posted by dayners81 View Post
    where in the world do you hear/ read that? that is completely not how that went down.

    As soon as Machado's camp said he wouldn't sign for the dollars and yrs the Yanks were willing to give him, Cash immediately went to DJ after that and stole him from the Rays

    DJ was never close to being this kind of elite player in Colorado and u have to factor in the Coors field effect. Plus our infield was already stacked so we really didn't even have a place for DJ to play full time. Cashman convinced him to come here for less than what Tampa was offering him to be a super-sub for us. Cashman did a hell of a job to have the foresight to sign him even though our infield was already full and to steal him away from Tampa.

    If people wanted to make a case that Cashman has done a horrible job at finding, developing, signing starting pitching i'd absolutely agree with them. That said u can't fault Cashmans ability to find overlooked position players that haven't been given the chance to breakout. The Voits, Hicks, Gio, Talkman going all the way back to Nick Swisher were amazing finds that cost us practically nothing.

    He's also done a hell of a job rebuilding the farm system and player development programs

    He is your proof that cashman had to be talked into signing dj .

    https://www.nydailynews.com/sports/b...n6q-story.html

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