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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    spanish flu was worse than this and we got through it, we didnt shut anything down either. This will not extinct the human race. I doubt it even would kill 1% of our population in the US.

    Truth is.... an indefinite shut down is going to do more damage to our society than even if we lost a couple million people. Kids missing years of school. Businesses not being able to survive. If we go like this for 2 or 3 years... we will be in a full out depression. Government can not continue supporting everyone to sit and do nothing.
    did we have 8 billion people at that point in time?

    did we ever cure or get rid of the spanish flu?

    We now have 6x times the amount of people in the world for a disease that is 5 times more infectious.... we also dont scare easy anymore and have become dumber as a population.

    we also wouldnt need a shut down if and wait for it this is key... americans werent so ****ing stupid.... lets protest with 25k people and wear no masks....

    lets refuse to wear masks in general..

    lets actually believe this is a hoax

    lets not use all of this technology we have created and home school all kids via a computer and instead lets put millions of children at risk
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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    spanish flu was worse than this and we got through it, we didnt shut anything down either. This will not extinct the human race. I doubt it even would kill 1% of our population in the US.

    Truth is.... an indefinite shut down is going to do more damage to our society than even if we lost a couple million people. Kids missing years of school. Businesses not being able to survive. If we go like this for 2 or 3 years... we will be in a full out depression. Government can not continue supporting everyone to sit and do nothing.
    Between the inaccuracies, hyperbole, fear mongering, and outright lunacy of most of your posts, Iím not sure which is more pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddletramp View Post
    Between the inaccuracies, hyperbole, fear mongering, and outright lunacy of most of your posts, Iím not sure which is more pathetic.
    its trying to make excuses for opening up and killing people that is so very amazing... welcome to america land of the free and home of the stupid and selfish.... the one thing that could be considered good that has come from this disease is that people now know where we all stand when **** hits the fan. the majority will only care about themselves and their loved ones and will believe that because they dont have it it doesnt matter... because they are healthy it doesnt matter

    its just the flu bruh.

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    sure, there wont be a full season and itll be in a bubble. Baseball is playing roughly 1/3 of a season. I think the players could agree to chilling with each other for the time period it would take to play 25/30 games... you know what this is really going to hurt? Lebrons chances at becoming the all-time scoring leader. He basically needs 2 full seasons after this year to get it. Now its going to be at least 3.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddletramp View Post
    Between the inaccuracies, hyperbole, fear mongering, and outright lunacy of most of your posts, Iím not sure which is more pathetic.
    not sure what I said thats fear mongering. Im telling people the virus isnt the biggest concern at the moment if this thing stretches out for 1 year plus.

    inaccuracies- they did not shut down during the spanish flu (and the human race survived).

    The fact that you think the only thing people should be worried about with the shut down is rich people losing stock value is whats pathetic. Thats what you were saying back in April.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    did we have 8 billion people at that point in time?

    did we ever cure or get rid of the spanish flu?

    We now have 6x times the amount of people in the world for a disease that is 5 times more infectious.... we also dont scare easy anymore and have become dumber as a population.

    we also wouldnt need a shut down if and wait for it this is key... americans werent so ****ing stupid.... lets protest with 25k people and wear no masks....

    lets refuse to wear masks in general..

    lets actually believe this is a hoax

    lets not use all of this technology we have created and home school all kids via a computer and instead lets put millions of children at risk
    A lot of places that have been wearing a mask are the ones shut down the longest (California). The hard evidence as to how effective it is for a population is pretty weak. Locking down seems to have an impact, but that cant be the long term solution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    A lot of places that have been wearing a mask are the ones shut down the longest (California). The hard evidence as to how effective it is for a population is pretty weak. Locking down seems to have an impact, but that cant be the long term solution.
    do you even read your own ****? Do you even understand the difference?

    Spanish Flu Pandemic Ends
    By the summer of 1919, the flu pandemic came to an end, as those that were infected either died or developed immunity.



    This isnt anywhere near as likely as today... this disease isnt going to kill and then vanish because of immunity.... 1 billion compared to 8 billion today make that impossible along with how many anti biotics we have now compared to 1918? do you understand how bad antibiotics are tbh..... this disease isnt going to just vanish or become immune... with how many people we have/the sprea/how many people get antibiotics for hell even the common cold its more likely that this becomes a super bug and becomes resistant over just vanishing.


    the spanish flu was more deadly per person but no where near as transmittable as covid... we had 7 billion less people to spread the disease/ and we didnt give antibiotics left right and center to help bugs become immune to said antibiotics... dont be a moron understand the time/amount of people/antibiotics given then and now and so on down the list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    do you even read your own ****? Do you even understand the difference?

    Spanish Flu Pandemic Ends
    By the summer of 1919, the flu pandemic came to an end, as those that were infected either died or developed immunity.



    This isnt anywhere near as likely as today... this disease isnt going to kill and then vanish because of immunity.... 1 billion compared to 8 billion today make that impossible along with how many anti biotics we have now compared to 1918? do you understand how bad antibiotics are tbh..... this disease isnt going to just vanish or become immune... with how many people we have/the sprea/how many people get antibiotics for hell even the common cold its more likely that this becomes a super bug and becomes resistant over just vanishing.


    the spanish flu was more deadly per person but no where near as transmittable as covid... we had 7 billion less people to spread the disease/ and we didnt give antibiotics left right and center to help bugs become immune to said antibiotics... dont be a moron understand the time/amount of people/antibiotics given then and now and so on down the list.
    so what does a lock down do? what does wearing a mask do. It sounds like you think covid is going to be there when we go out anyways, or when we take off the masks? Or are the lock downs suppose to stay in place until we have a vaccine? are masks suppose to be mandatory for the rest of our lives? What if the vaccine is only 60-70% effective? then we keep wearing masks and all sports are prohibited a few decades? Are we just waiting for treatment to be better? (that could take decades)

    If everyone is always wearing a mask- how does anyone get identified in a police line up? LOL isnt there almost always reasonable doubt when a witness sees someone?

    Are you thinking about ALL of the Potential problems with locking down and wearing masks.... or are you only focused on covid and no other issues in society?

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    its trying to make excuses for opening up and killing people that is so very amazing... welcome to america land of the free and home of the stupid and selfish.... the one thing that could be considered good that has come from this disease is that people now know where we all stand when **** hits the fan. the majority will only care about themselves and their loved ones and will believe that because they dont have it it doesnt matter... because they are healthy it doesnt matter

    its just the flu bruh.
    Thats kind of a narrow minded way to look at it. Acknowledging that keeping 85-90% of businesses locked down or severely constrained could also be a big problem doesnt mean people want to kill people. Most people would want to open up and find some sort of balance in running their businesses adaquetly and making a reasonable effort to be careful. That seems like a rational way to consider dealing with a problem that doesnt seem to be going away any time soon.

    Granted opening up will likely cause more infections and deaths than staying locked down, but there are policies made that balance/ compromise the risk on human life all the time. And yes- if the only concern for everyone was keeping people from dieing from covid- that sounds like a horrible idea. 5 months into this, with no guaranteed end in sight.... considering some level of middle ground seems to make sense.

    Also- continuing to pass stimulus bills that are going to create massive inflation over the next 3 or 4 years doesnt cut it, and is not sustainable. Another great depression will create far more deaths than this virus ever could. If it mirrors the one in the 30s- we would lose 7-8 million people...... and have a horrible quality of life for about 95% of the other 330 million people in the country.

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    ****, youíre dense.

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    How much impact will this season have on next anyhow? This season wraps on Oct.13. That is already going to cut into next season. How much rest do these guys need before ramping up again? I highly doubt anyone is going to want to bubble for 82 games plus playoffs. If bubbling is going to be the solution again, do you give everyone a few weeks off mid season so they can go see their families, return to the bubble, quarantine for a couple of weeks and resume the season?

    The NFL has had more time to prepare for this and hasn't done well. The NBA is very smart. I think they will wait and see what happens with MLB and NFL in the next two months before deciding on next season.

    And of course, if this **** gets further out of control when cold/flu season comes they may not have a choice. Basketball may become a spring/summer/fall sport instead of fall/winter/spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by likemystylez View Post
    so what does a lock down do? what does wearing a mask do. It sounds like you think covid is going to be there when we go out anyways, or when we take off the masks? Or are the lock downs suppose to stay in place until we have a vaccine? are masks suppose to be mandatory for the rest of our lives? What if the vaccine is only 60-70% effective? then we keep wearing masks and all sports are prohibited a few decades? Are we just waiting for treatment to be better? (that could take decades)

    If everyone is always wearing a mask- how does anyone get identified in a police line up? LOL isnt there almost always reasonable doubt when a witness sees someone?

    Are you thinking about ALL of the Potential problems with locking down and wearing masks.... or are you only focused on covid and no other issues in society?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddletramp View Post
    ****, youíre dense.
    why? because I can acknowledge that there are potential downsides to everyone wearing a mask all the time for extended periods of time or constant lock downs with no end in sight? Just pointing out that there are clearly costs to all of these actions being taken to slow the spread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    did we have 8 billion people at that point in time?

    did we ever cure or get rid of the spanish flu?

    We now have 6x times the amount of people in the world for a disease that is 5 times more infectious.... we also dont scare easy anymore and have become dumber as a population.

    we also wouldnt need a shut down if and wait for it this is key... americans werent so ****ing stupid.... lets protest with 25k people and wear no masks....

    lets refuse to wear masks in general..

    lets actually believe this is a hoax

    lets not use all of this technology we have created and home school all kids via a computer and instead lets put millions of children at risk
    What? We successfully flattened the curve, the goal was never to hide forever. Put it this way, what's an acceptable amount of cases per day before we start up?

    Kids aren't in real danger and they're not super spreaders, what u mean?

    Also u don't know much about the so called Spanish flu I bet

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