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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by flips333 View Post
    The "deadlier flu." Oh dear lord do you think the flu is more dangerous than COVID?

    Brewers!!!!! Brewers!!!! come get your kid. He's on PSD.
    It is to school age humans in the USA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Hey! Here's another one of those dishonest arguments.
    feel free to show it. I'll continue using air in the meantime.

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    Ehh....I don't think there is much to gain from attempting to talk sense to someone that is either willfully ignorant and/or simply really bad at critical thinking.

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    Teacher strikes in red states are usually broadly supported. People like teachers. The recent WV strike in my neck of the woods was well-supported in the state, and spawned well-supported strikes in other red states afterwards. If they strike, they'll find support. Especially considering how little we spend on them and education in general. Hard to imagine many school distracts have the means to do what's needed to insure things are safe.

    It also is in their favor that the majority of this country does not think the administration is handling the pandemic well.

    It sucks that we shouldn't reasonably feel safe with opening up schools. It's a vital step towards fully opening up the economy. Maybe we should've taken a serious approach at combating this a long time ago so maybe we'd be doing better now than we were 3 months ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRam View Post
    the majority of this country does not think the administration is handling the pandemic well.

    It sucks that we shouldn't reasonably feel safe with opening up schools.
    Good point.

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    I have no faith in our leaders to do right by us over pushing their agenda.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brett05 View Post
    It is to school age humans in the USA.
    And everyone knows if a school age child gets Covid its impossible to transmit that disease to teachers, faculty, parents, grandparents, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brett05 View Post
    It is to school age humans in the USA.
    No it's not. And it certainly isn't for the teachers...

    But \_(ツ)_/

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    Not okay to vote in person but def okay for in person school!

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    Quote Originally Posted by flips333 View Post
    No it's not. And it certainly isn't for the teachers...

    But \_(ツ)_/
    For non-elderly and non-elderly with no underlying conditions the mortality rate is basically the same as the mortality rate for driving your car. All the data says it's basically a severe flu season. Even the early indications of its transmissibility being extraordinary (the reason for the lockdowns) turned out not to be the case since virtually all field hospitals outside of China have remained empty.

    It's no where near as serious as we thought, and the unprecedented quarantine of healthy individuals has turned out to be a wrong decision. No reason not to open schools. Except politics of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flea View Post
    For non-elderly and non-elderly with no underlying conditions the mortality rate is basically the same as the mortality rate for driving your car. All the data says it's basically a severe flu season. Even the early indications of its transmissibility being extraordinary (the reason for the lockdowns) turned out not to be the case since virtually all field hospitals outside of China have remained empty.

    It's no where near as serious as we thought, and the unprecedented quarantine of healthy individuals has turned out to be a wrong decision. No reason not to open schools. Except politics of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Facts don't lie. A .1-.3% death rate is a severe flu season no matter how scary the TV people say it is. It's certainly a bad virus for people at risk, but the cumulative doomsday scenario does not comport with reality.

    Just look at the death rates for this country vs. 2 years ago - if we had hundreds of thousands dying (ALL OUR DEATHS FROM ALL OUR WARS COMBINE PANIC!) then why does it not show up in the raw data?


    And there was never a medical reason to close schools. From the study:
    Systematic reviews of influenza outbreaks suggest that school closures are likely to have the greatest effect if the virus has low transmissibility (R<2), particularly if attack rates and transmission are higher in children than in adults.8
    Although our information on SARS-CoV-2 remains incomplete, this appears not to be the case with COVID-19 outbreaks.
    But go ahead and be a science-denier and panic PANIC PANIC!

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    The better question is, are schools/teachers even relevant to learning anymore? Teachers have basically become babysitters to some extent. Schools use to be institutes of learning but now for most kids, schools are just institutes of social order. Kids are taught to follow orders and instructions to prepare them to be better worker bees.

    There are plenty of online learning applications. Kids can get social activity outside of school if parents put in an effort. Personally, I think its time we look beyond these old methods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flea View Post
    Facts don't lie. A .1-.3% death rate is a severe flu season no matter how scary the TV people say it is. It's certainly a bad virus for people at risk, but the cumulative doomsday scenario does not comport with reality.

    Just look at the death rates for this country vs. 2 years ago - if we had hundreds of thousands dying (ALL OUR DEATHS FROM ALL OUR WARS COMBINE PANIC!) then why does it not show up in the raw data?


    And there was never a medical reason to close schools. From the study:


    But go ahead and be a science-denier and panic PANIC PANIC!
    My bad. I should be more like you and pretend it's all a big nothing burger. I should have known that there's absolutely no middle ground between "doomsday" and "severe flu season".

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    Super cool and useful chart too. It's totally not like this virus has only been around for roughly six months as opposed to the two year chunks shown.

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