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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyRealist View Post
    Heard Ben's playing PF in the bubble? Glad they figured that out, but also glad we stole TJ McConnell before they did. :P
    Yup. Shake Milton at the 1.

    Underrated stat on Shake:
    Since his first year at SMU he’s shooting 46% on catch and shoot 3’s.

    What Shake was doing pre-shutdown is what we thought we were getting with Fultz. Combo guard ability who could start and “co-point guard” with Ben.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vee-Rex View Post
    I'd love to see Dame on the Heat. Would become the best team in the East, IMO.
    I’d be in heaven if they were to somehow get a big 3 of Dame Jimmy and Bam. Dame is my favorite player. I think they’re more focused on the Oladipo/Beal with Giannis scenario though and rightfully so
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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    I'll give one should be on a blow it up list team and one 'shocker' blow it up team:
    Spurs - I think they tried too much to be different with DDR and LMA being the kings of midrange. It's time to blow it up. Maybe time for Pops to move one along with that.

    Jazz - I think they need to do a mini-blowup. The Conley-Mitchell backcourt didn't work. Rumors of Mitchell-Gobert rifts. Struggles to be a FA destination. I think they should look to move Conley for whatever they can get out of it. Get a good return now for Gobert. Really be putting a team that would make the most of Mitchell if that's their choice.
    I’ve been seeing a lot of stuff about the Jazz that leads me to believe they very well could split Mitchell and gobert. I would assume they’d like to keep Mitchell because of age and contract.
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    At least we are not talking about NFL teams ... if the NFL cap drops $80M the entire league will have to blow up their teams to get under the hard cap. NBA teams it just costs a little more money to keep going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iggie View Post
    I’d be in heaven if they were to somehow get a big 3 of Dame Jimmy and Bam. Dame is my favorite player. I think they’re more focused on the Oladipo/Beal with Giannis scenario though and rightfully so
    Dame is super committed to the blazers and if any player is moved I doubt it’s him but I’d be interested to know what you think your best offer could be to sway the blazers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iggie View Post
    I’ve been seeing a lot of stuff about the Jazz that leads me to believe they very well could split Mitchell and gobert. I would assume they’d like to keep Mitchell because of age and contract.
    I was going to post the other day that the Jazz should blow it up but that they'll **** it up by keeping Mitchell. And that's what the couple people who have mentioned it think they'll do.


    Rippin' lips son!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vee-Rex View Post
    I'd love to see Dame on the Heat. Would become the best team in the East, IMO.
    would normally agree but they would need a 3rd star because the players they would give up would keep them behind a sixers/bucks/celtics/raptors tbh.... to get dame they would have to gut their team... dame and butler arent doing much as a 2 headed monster without a 3rd superstar in this east. If I am the heat id just try to get giannis is FA or AD and then go after a BB or a dame etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by IndyRealist View Post
    Heard Ben's playing PF in the bubble? Glad they figured that out, but also glad we stole TJ McConnell before they did. :P
    yea it only took forever to realize he isnt a pg... its a shame really because had we realized this like every person in the world did we could have not signed horford and went and traded for a cp3 while probably keeping a JJ.. I will forever hate brown and now brand... the stupidity from our coaches to the top of our organization might have destroyed a top team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    Yup. Shake Milton at the 1.

    Underrated stat on Shake:
    Since his first year at SMU he’s shooting 46% on catch and shoot 3’s.

    What Shake was doing pre-shutdown is what we thought we were getting with Fultz. Combo guard ability who could start and “co-point guard” with Ben.
    this is why i have 0 issues of drafting fultz and the fultz on orlando right now would fit perfect with our team... we shouldnt have traded him... i understood why we had to at the time but i still dont like it. This off season our goal should be to bring in a true pg.... i would do whatever minus giving up thyb/ben/joel to bring in a dragic/holiday/cp3... id be willing to give up thyb for holiday though tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iggie View Post
    I read that this is the Rockets last dance, Wizards should break it up too. I wish the blazers would and Dame would become available but with all their injuries I’m guessing they ride it out at least another year.
    I seriously doubt the Blazers are anywhere near blowing it up. Our front court is back. Now let's see what it can do. They should have probably traded McCollum years ago when he first peaked for a bigger guard or wing — Butler would have been perfect. The Blazers have always been weak with those mid-size wings.
    I'd obviously blow up the Spurs. Sell off Aldridge's and DeRozan's expiring for whatever assets you can get. See what the young guys can do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TrueFan420 View Post
    Dame is super committed to the blazers and if any player is moved I doubt it’s him but I’d be interested to know what you think your best offer could be to sway the blazers
    I doubt they would too and literally anything other than Jimmy and Bam to build a big 3, that may not be enough though. I would play it smart though, you can’t lose Bam and if that’s the deal breaker so be it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    would normally agree but they would need a 3rd star because the players they would give up would keep them behind a sixers/bucks/celtics/raptors tbh.... to get dame they would have to gut their team... dame and butler arent doing much as a 2 headed monster without a 3rd superstar in this east. If I am the heat id just try to get giannis is FA or AD and then go after a BB or a dame etc
    Talks would likely stop when they ask for the farm including Bam. Miami just can’t do that, he’s too important now and for the future. If they were to put that big 3 together though they would have a shot, just isn’t likely.

    I agree to after Giannis and then trade or sign and trade for Beal/Oladipo as they’re rumored to be looking into doing. Hell if Mitchell is available go after him over Oladipo due to age and contract
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZNC View Post
    I was going to post the other day that the Jazz should blow it up but that they'll **** it up by keeping Mitchell. And that's what the couple people who have mentioned it think they'll do.
    So you would rather trade Mitchell? I can see the reasoning. I’ve been seeing Miami guys tease it quite a bit on twitter as Mitchell comments on all their stuff and him and Bam talk a lot the fans joke about it and eat it up. Any package you would like from Miami that doesn’t include Jimmy or Bam? What do you think the market for Mitchell would be?
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    Quote Originally Posted by warfelg View Post
    Jazz - I think they need to do a mini-blowup. The Conley-Mitchell backcourt didn't work. Rumors of Mitchell-Gobert rifts. Struggles to be a FA destination. I think they should look to move Conley for whatever they can get out of it. Get a good return now for Gobert. Really be putting a team that would make the most of Mitchell if that's their choice.
    An amnesty clause would solve a lot of Utah's issues. Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell are an excellent pairing, so I'd try to repair any rifts. Winning cures all. If only Gordon Hayward hadn't bolted, he'd be perfect with them.
    If they want to offload Gobert to keep Mitchell happy, Boston has the assets. Maybe they take back Hayward, Robert Williams and Romeo Langford for Gobert and Joe Ingles.
    Hayward can return to Utah a secondary scorer and playmaker instead of the fourth option in Boston. Ed Davis is definitely a downgrade from Gobert, but he's a steady hand when given the time. Williams and Tony Bradley have real potential at center. And if Langford develops, Utah has four rangy guards and wings, including two stars. Conley can be a backup, get better or get amnestied.
    Boston cashes in some of its chips for an awesome defensive anchor to go with Jayson Tatum, Kemba Walker and and Jaylen Brown.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrblisterdundee View Post
    An amnesty clause would solve a lot of Utah's issues. Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell are an excellent pairing, so I'd try to repair any rifts. Winning cures all. If only Gordon Hayward hadn't bolted, he'd be perfect with them.
    If they want to offload Gobert to keep Mitchell happy, Boston has the assets. Maybe they take back Hayward, Robert Williams and Romeo Langford for Gobert and Joe Ingles.
    Hayward can return to Utah a secondary scorer and playmaker instead of the fourth option in Boston. Ed Davis is definitely a downgrade from Gobert, but he's a steady hand when given the time. Williams and Tony Bradley have real potential at center. And if Langford develops, Utah has four rangy guards and wings, including two stars. Conley can be a backup, get better or get amnestied.
    Boston cashes in some of its chips for an awesome defensive anchor to go with Jayson Tatum, Kemba Walker and and Jaylen Brown.
    I actually saw an amnesty clause for teams was being discussed a few weeks ago, is this why you brought it up? Has this been discussed anymore or shot down? We could see guys like Wall, Love, Conley, LMA, etc. become free agents if that’s the case and it could make things more interesting
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