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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    BTW, I had a poster of Malcolm X on my bedroom wall when I was a kid because I just couldn't find a poster of Nancy Pelosi anywhere. Oh, how unaware blacks are to her greatness.

    Silly person
    Maybe if she was more involved in the Klan she would have made it up there?

    And stop with the ****in pity party. I've trashed 90% of people on this board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    No I'm saying Malcolm didn't do ****. Or at least anything useful. Point completely went over your head lol.

    I mean which views of his do you celebrate exactly?

    His pro separatists anti integration beliefs? Or how he tried to negotiate an ethnostate with the clan?

    Malcolm X almost lead civil rights into the ****ing ground. It was only later in his life did he drop his more radical views. And then he was murdered. Likely by the same Islamic group that he'd convinced thousands if black people to join.

    The fact that you have an MLK quote on your profile and a Malcolm X poster in you room says a lot. You are confused lol.
    Oh boy, the last statement is so buttf'ing crazy. You acting like only I feel this way about Malcolm and King.

    1. His childhood tragedy is something that blacks can relate to, unlike the privileged life that Pelosi had.

    2. After living a life of crime after his family was torn apart he reform himself in prison by joining the Black Muslim

    3. His integrity prevents him from covering up his leader sexual misconduct with their followers, and split from them. That piece crap Farrakhan did the cover-up, incite Muslims to kill Malcolm and gain his position now as their leader spewing racism.

    4. He renounce the racism of the Black Muslims and apologize for preaching their spew on other races, especially whites and jews.


    Most people can't change their ways even once, but he evolved from crime, racism and became more spiritual in his lectures.

    This is as much as I going to say to deaf ears. If you want to think that blacks are stupid for thinking highly of him, that is on you. I dare you to voice your opinions of Malcolm X to a stranger who is black. I bet you won't be lol, lol all over the place afterward. Call me so I can watch. I can
    use some entertainment
    Last edited by WES445; 04-23-2021 at 06:30 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    Maybe if she was more involved in the Klan she would have made it up there?

    And stop with the ****in pity party. I've trashed 90% of people on this board.
    I am doing the pity party? It is you who went off the hook when I criticize Pelosi, started the insult, snotty comment on how more rational you are than I, and dissing black leaders.

    AH, the hell with this.

    Is it hard climbing out of Pelosi's arse every morning? I just had to ask, since I never been there. I hope to see the rating on the accommodations. She eats a lot of ice cream so I sure it chilly up there.
    Last edited by WES445; 04-23-2021 at 06:40 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post

    His pro separatists anti integration beliefs? Or how he tried to negotiate an ethnostate with the clan?

    .
    Keep in mind you are saying this about a time when whites had separately labeled facilities. Yes his views were racist with the nation, but look at the environment. Black nationalism voices were uplifters of their communities, communities which were ACTIVELY suppressed by the government from numerous angles.

    And still are.



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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    Notice how more people are switching from these two-party to become independent?
    No.
    "The hottest places in hell are reserved for those who, in times of great moral crisis, maintain their neutrality.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Keep in mind you are saying this about a time when whites had separately labeled facilities. Yes his views were racist with the nation, but look at the environment. Black nationalism voices were uplifters of their communities, communities which were ACTIVELY suppressed by the government from numerous angles.

    And still are.



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    Agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Keep in mind you are saying this about a time when whites had separately labeled facilities. Yes his views were racist with the nation, but look at the environment. Black nationalism voices were uplifters of their communities, communities which were ACTIVELY suppressed by the government from numerous angles.

    And still are.



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    I have plenty of empathy for Malcolm's struggles. I just think it's a bit rich to call him a hero 60 years later and celebrate him as if he was a core civil rights member. He constantly spoke against mlks movement.

    Especially when you're pushing a left ideology. Dude was a far right extremist that mirrored the very people he condemned. Especially when Wes in the past has shown he has 0 empathy for people who don't share his skin tone.

    To me Wes has a consistent view. He sets a different standard based on skin color. You're allowed a different set of moral standards. Which I oppose.

    I'm not going to pretend racism against whites is anywhere near the level of an issue. But I'm sure as hell not going to find the lack of morals and ethics acceptable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Seek help.
    you troll here all day every day unrelated to a topic.

    so much for just scrolling past what I post, eh.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Read your post. People.are against hate crimes, but you insinuated that they arent against hate crimes unless they are perpetuated by whites.

    That is manipulation within the context of your overall bigger racist perspective.

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    I question whether you pay attention to media/social media. the narrative is that white people are the problem, white people are the ones committing these anti Asian hate crimes, and of course because of what Trump said. ignore anything that contradicts that like the actual statistics, or media early on in Covid19 calling it the Wuhan virus.

    what I post is to counter and contradict that narrative that is wrong.


    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...cy/4769268001/
    In the wake of this week’s killings, many have rallied in support of the Asian American community, producing a palpable sense of unity in the fight against anti-Asian violence. And some say the heightened solidarity also presents a chance for communities of color to effectively address the common enemy of white supremacy.
    white supremacy is not what is driving anti Asian hate.


    same article..
    “Racism can be applied to any non-white group,” said political science professor Claire Jean Kim of the University of California, Irvine. “But anti-Blackness is a structural feature of society that keeps Black people at the bottom. It’s a force that pushes anyone up who is not Black and pushes down anyone who is not white. For Asians and Hispanics, it’s a force that lifts them above Blacks.”

    The dynamic privileges those in the middle but never allows them the full benefits of whiteness, creating conflict within the hierarchy.

    “It’s about the lack of humanity and dignity given to Black people, and it’s baked into our society,” said Anne Price, president of the Insight Center for Community Economic Development in Oakland, California.
    the bold is simply not true. anyone of any race can experience racism.


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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Seriously bro, you're just becoming flat out racist at this point. Stop it. Stop making a mockery of black people dying. Seriously, its getting beyond disgusting.

    You are really starting to expose yourself as a legitimate racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    When a black person dies, he starts asking why dont these black people or pro black groups speak out against it. He never asked why other human rights groups didnt bring it up.

    He is using the death of black people in order to support systemic racism against blacks. That is a racist tactic.

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    you're just being ignorant.

    it's not racist to want attention for other black lives.


    I want attention for black lives lost, but that's racist? GTFO.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    It's disengenuous. His history shows he doesn't care about any of the people till they are useful political leverage.

    He's not offering a solution either. Pushing for any sort of law. There's no real point. Ots just propaganda
    ********. I was the only one to bring up 9 year old Tyshawn Lee years ago.

    I do have a point, if people could pay attention. I've repeated my point, that these dead black children deserve attention and they're not really getting that. I want to highlight them, I want them to get attention. as expected PSD doesn't do that and wants to criticize me instead. that's pathetic, how about agreeing that these are tragic and deserve attention, lets do that for a change.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    BLMs cause is to fight against police brutality.

    They don't spend time talking about the dangers of high cholesterol in the black community either.

    It's weird that you'd have an expectation for them to attack every issue regarding what's endangering black people.

    They have a cause. And furthermore you guys are misunderstanding the issue with police brutality in the black community. It's not just how many die. It's about the effect it has beyond that.
    if BLM only cared about police or something related to racism then they would literally never protest or march for anything else, and that is simply not true. some of the time they have protested and marched for other black lives, and that was great. but it doesn't happen as often as it should.

    as I mentioned about 9 year old Tyhsawn Lee, this supports what I've said in two ways.

    https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/11...sparks-debate/
    On the left: a drawing of 9 year old Tyshawn Lee. On the right, a city street with the caption “Still waiting for the outrage.”

    “You don’t see Sharptons come down and march. You don’t see the streets full of rage and it should be,” Stantis said. “This was a beautiful kid.”


    Such as the response to police shootings, when thousands march and chant.

    “It’s wrong on so many levels I don’t know where to begin,” said veteran journalist Lee Bey.
    “People do care, people do protest, people do speak out, so much so the media doesn’t even covered it anymore,” Bey said.

    In fact, there are countless weekend anti-violence marches in the black community. And just yesterday Father Michael Pfleger and many others in the black community expressed anger over the murder of Tyshawn Lee.

    there is not the same attention and protesting for these black children, and a reason for that is lack of media coverage. the media drives the attention, and these black children don't "sell" for the media's interest. that is a big problem and many don't understand that.

    at least there is some protesting for these black children. I want more, more attention, more action.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    Oh boy, the last statement is so buttf'ing crazy. You acting like only I feel this way about Malcolm and King.

    1. His childhood tragedy is something that blacks can relate to, unlike the privileged life that Pelosi had.

    2. After living a life of crime after his family was torn apart he reform himself in prison by joining the Black Muslim

    3. His integrity prevents him from covering up his leader sexual misconduct with their followers, and split from them. That piece crap Farrakhan did the cover-up, incite Muslims to kill Malcolm and gain his position now as their leader spewing racism.

    4. He renounce the racism of the Black Muslims and apologize for preaching their spew on other races, especially whites and jews.


    Most people can't change their ways even once, but he evolved from crime, racism and became more spiritual in his lectures.

    This is as much as I going to say to deaf ears. If you want to think that blacks are stupid for thinking highly of him, that is on you. I dare you to voice your opinions of Malcolm X to a stranger who is black. I bet you won't be lol, lol all over the place afterward. Call me so I can watch. I can
    use some entertainment
    Keep hiding behind your race Wes. God forbid you speak for yourself.

    And OMFG Wes. I worked most of my life with all races all creeds. I've lived in traps. I've lived in projects.

    Lol at you trying to pretend that Malcolm X is some revered figure who can't be talked about in the black community. When you say **** like this it makes me really question your BS. When you try to act like all black people think the same ****. Or as one dimensional as you.

    You ever get stabbed Wes? Ever been shot at? Ever have a gang steal your ID so they could threaten your family and recite their address every time they see you?

    I'm not one of those "white boys" you can sell you ******** to Wes. I've seen this **** first hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MRSpock View Post
    Keep hiding behind your race Wes. God forbid you speak for yourself.

    And OMFG Wes. I worked most of my life with all races all creeds. I've lived in traps. I've lived in projects.

    Lol at you trying to pretend that Malcolm X is some revered figure who can't be talked about in the black community. When you say **** like this it makes me really question your BS. When you try to act like all black people think the same ****. Or as one dimensional as you.

    You ever get stabbed Wes? Ever been shot at? Ever have a gang steal your ID so they could threaten your family and recite their address every time they see you?

    I'm not one of those "white boys" you can sell you ******** to Wes. I've seen this **** first hand.
    I had gangs jump me and beat me down twice one summer because I wouldn't join their gangs. That was the year my parent had to move to another neighborhood. I was in fifth grade. Got sliced in a one-way knife fight but f him up worst with a fist, foot, and a brick. This was my first year in a new High School. I had five fights, three in school. But I never had another fight in the rest of my time in school. My reputation was made. Someone who beat your arse then spends time trash talking. Often I was the first to throw a punch when confronted. I figure at my young age that they were asking for it for confronting me especially if people were around. I also figure out a lot of time people overplay their hands. Or could be I was never a talker. I overplay my hand when I stood and try to fight off four guys instead of running. I was in the hospital for a few days after that one. Walking in the wrong neighborhood. Learn fast the black and white neighborhoods to avoid. Never had trouble with Mexicans, but I didn't mess with their girls, too much heat. But anyway, the experience also taught me that running isn't a bad idea.

    I never brag about my experience or mention this before now. It is one of the things you share with your own. It was something that just happens, nothing to trip out about. Many other kids when through similar incidents in my neighborhood especially being jumped into gangs in neighboring communities. I accept the fact that violence was a way of life. Like catching the flu, just a bad beat. Any other way to think leads to living in fear. Just get smarter about who you associate with, the area you are in. Even now, my wife said when we walking down the street, I rarely look at who I am talking to cause my eyes are constantly scanning our surroundings. It is automatic like looking both ways when crossing the street. Never catch me focusing on some devices while on the streets.

    Those are just some of the things that happen early in life. The guns and mugging came later by strangers. Oh, I seem people shot, knifed, and stomped into the ground as well in various areas of Chicago when young. Kids experience so much when they out partying. I had to fight off a mentally disturbed person a couple of years back. What is funny is that I complain and protest about mental health services cuts when one of my old friends called and talked about it a couple of decades before. I came back to Chicago a couple of times to help them out by being present and old times. They remember or shared my protesting background when I was young during the Vietnam war and civil rights marches in Chicago. I would talk more about those protest days, but I sure that would not interest someone with you.

    But look at me trying to compare my grief with the suffering you experience in a black neighborhood. Who would seek to do this? You go white boy. YOU'RE THE MAN.

    Do you want to suggest any more rich white politicians we should follow than our own? I am a racist, as you declare, who needs a white boy's guidance on this subject. Like old times when whites did that for us.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WES445 View Post
    Oh boy, the last statement is so buttf'ing crazy. You acting like only I feel this way about Malcolm and King.

    1. His childhood tragedy is something that blacks can relate to, unlike the privileged life that Pelosi had.

    2. After living a life of crime after his family was torn apart he reform himself in prison by joining the Black Muslim

    3. His integrity prevents him from covering up his leader sexual misconduct with their followers, and split from them. That piece crap Farrakhan did the cover-up, incite Muslims to kill Malcolm and gain his position now as their leader spewing racism.

    4. He renounce the racism of the Black Muslims and apologize for preaching their spew on other races, especially whites and jews.


    Most people can't change their ways even once, but he evolved from crime, racism and became more spiritual in his lectures.

    This is as much as I going to say to deaf ears. If you want to think that blacks are stupid for thinking highly of him, that is on you. I dare you to voice your opinions of Malcolm X to a stranger who is black. I bet you won't be lol, lol all over the place afterward. Call me so I can watch. I can
    use some entertainment
    You tell ‘em. Malcom X’s life story is every much as inspirational as King’s (and certainly a hell of a lot more than Pelosi’s).

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