This is why they kneel

[valade16]

there is no way anyone should continue to think the officer here wasn't mostly at fault, there was never a reason to do what he did. it might be 70/30 or 80/20 or even 90/10 the officer's fault. but if people can drop the partisan **** maybe they could see their was also an action by the other person. everyone is accountable for their actions.

See? You're already talking yourself into it being partially the victim's fault. Give it two weeks, you'll find a way to show it was mostly the victim's fault.

[spliff(TONE)]

now you're just trolling. you said it, but can't or wont back it up. that's on you.

4 examples contradict you. unless you can offer something to support what you said, you're done.

No, I'm not trolling....and as a master troll you should know this. None of those examples contradict me, they just add to the number of times you've used that lame phrase. The search function on this site is dog **** (and no, I'm not going to resort to a search of the entire web to prove my point).

Why don't you just be a good boy and stop using that phrase if you actually understand the undertones at this point and we can move on?

[SiteWolf]

Here you go, you deserve it:

I'm devastated. How WILL I go on...

[spliff(TONE)]

I'm confident that you'll recover swimmingly.

[benny01]

go ahead and show me where I said this to anyone black.

I just found 4 to contradict you, not one of them black, that support exactly what I said.

back up what you're saying, but I'm not expecting much.

I think you've been sufficiently made aware of the problems with that phrase. Would seem that if the goal is civil conversation, you could maybe stop using it now.

[SpecialFNK]

See? You're already talking yourself into it being partially the victim's fault. Give it two weeks, you'll find a way to show it was mostly the victim's fault.

what action did the person have? explain to me what this person did.

[valade16]

what action did the person have? explain to me what this person did.

See you're halfway there? It'll be the victim's fault in no time!

[SpecialFNK]

See you're halfway there? It'll be the victim's fault in no time!

I'm already on record saying it was the officer's fault.
there is nothing new that will contradict what is already available on video.

why don't you want to comment on what the person did. did they stand there do nothing? no.

[SiteWolf]

I'm already on record saying it was the officer's fault.
there is nothing new that will contradict what is already available on video.

why don't you want to comment on what the person did. did they stand there do nothing? no.

Wait, what? What did you see the person do? Stand there cuffed behind the back but flinch as the officer started messing with her headband or whatever it was? That was already inappropriate behavior by the officer.

[valade16]

I'm already on record saying it was the officer's fault.
there is nothing new that will contradict what is already available on video.

why don't you want to comment on what the person did. did they stand there do nothing? no.

What did they person do that was wrong?

[SpecialFNK]

Wait, what? What did you see the person do? Stand there cuffed behind the back but flinch as the officer started messing with her headband or whatever it was? That was already inappropriate behavior by the officer.

What did they person do that was wrong?

what was the officer trying to do? remove the persons scarf for the mugshot? why did the person react to that, just let the officer take that out.

again that doesn't justify what the officer then did, but it was still an action that person had.

[valade16]

what was the officer trying to do? remove the persons scarf for the mugshot? why did the person react to that, just let the officer take that out.

again that doesn't justify what the officer then did, but it was still an action that person had.

But it’s definitely the person’s fault right? Had they not flinched at the officer trying to remove the scarf nothing would have happened.

So it’s their fault.

[SpecialFNK]

But it’s definitely the person’s fault right? Had they not flinched at the officer trying to remove the scarf nothing would have happened.

So it’s their fault.

stop. I've already said differently.

if you don't want to accept this person did something then don't.

[valade16]

stop. I've already said differently.

if you don't want to accept this person did something then don't.

What does it matter if it’s not their fault?

[SiteWolf]

what was the officer trying to do? remove the persons scarf for the mugshot? why did the person react to that, just let the officer take that out.

again that doesn't justify what the officer then did, but it was still an action that person had.

If someone starts reaching towards you unexpectedly, you react to it.
If that someone is an officer who'd already cuffed you, you definitely react if he reaches towards you
That can't be the problem you're having, that can't be the 'something' you think she did. All this time I thought you were meaning the 'something' was whatever the officer cuffed her for in the first place.