This is why they kneel

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NY and Cali are the worst ****ing states to live in by far, especially for a low skilled worked. They tax like crazy.

[valade16]

Taxes, baby. That's what kills the cost of living.

This list of worst cities for minimum wage workers has no cities from NY or CA on it:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/09/the-...e-workers.html

Here's another list of worst states for workers, where they specifically state:

https://www.businessinsider.com/wors...er-protections

Southern states — like Alabama, Virginia, and Mississippi — ranked poorly, as the minimum wage cannot fully cover the cost of living and because state policies prohibit unionization, Oxfam reports.

Even accounting for taxes. 30% taxes on $15 an hour still nets the employee more than 5% taxes on $7.25 an hour.

[dbroncos78087]

This list of worst cities for minimum wage workers has no cities from NY or CA on it:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/09/the-...e-workers.html

Here's another list of worst states for workers, where they specifically state:

https://www.businessinsider.com/wors...er-protections

Southern states — like Alabama, Virginia, and Mississippi — ranked poorly, as the minimum wage cannot fully cover the cost of living and because state policies prohibit unionization, Oxfam reports.

Even accounting for taxes. 30% taxes on $15 an hour still nets the employee more than 5% taxes on $7.25 an hour.

Yea but a gut feeling telling him that NY and CA are terrible surely overrules the statistics. Right?

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This list of worst cities for minimum wage workers has no cities from NY or CA on it:

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/05/09/the-...e-workers.html

Here's another list of worst states for workers, where they specifically state:

https://www.businessinsider.com/wors...er-protections

Southern states — like Alabama, Virginia, and Mississippi — ranked poorly, as the minimum wage cannot fully cover the cost of living and because state policies prohibit unionization, Oxfam reports.

Even accounting for taxes. 30% taxes on $15 an hour still nets the employee more than 5% taxes on $7.25 an hour.

It's total bs. I come from a high taxed county (Nassau) and I believe rent to live in someone's basement is about 1,500 a month. You can buy a house/fancy condo in the majority of the country for those kind of prices.

[valade16]

It's total bs. I come from a high taxed county (Nassau) and I believe rent to live in someone's basement is about 1,500 a month. You can buy a house/fancy condo in the majority of the country for those kind of prices.

Sure, but if you were paid $7.25 instead of $15 an hour you're not affording that either way. Heck, $7.25 for 40 hours a week is only $1,160 a month. You know what you can afford on that? someone's basement lol

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Sure, but if you were paid $7.25 instead of $15 an hour you're not affording that either way. Heck, $7.25 for 40 hours a week is only $1,160 a month. You know what you can afford on that? someone's basement lol

Like I said, minimum wage hikes will never get people over the poverty line, pipe dream. On top of that, the minimum wage there isn't 15, it's about 10. And I guarantee you could make 7.25 work better than that 10 in about 95% of the rest of the country.

[valade16]

Like I said, minimum wage hikes will never get people over the poverty line, pipe dream. On top of that, the minimum wage there isn't 15, it's about 10. And I guarantee you could make 7.25 work better than that 10 in about 95% of the rest of the country.

But a minimum wage hike will help. I just don't buy the notion that giving minimum wage workers and extra $1-2 an hour actually makes them poorer, and that sounds like something people say to justify not having to give them $1-2 more.

And I've been to much of the country. I've yet to find the place where I would consider my life good on $7.25 an hour.

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But a minimum wage hike will help. I just don't buy the notion that giving minimum wage workers and extra $1-2 an hour actually makes them poorer, and that sounds like something people say to justify not having to give them $1-2 more.

And I've been to much of the country. I've yet to find the place where I would consider my life good on $7.25 an hour.

Why does it make any sense for it to be set at the federal level as opposed to a local level?

[valade16]

Why does it make any sense for it to be set at the federal level as opposed to a local level?

I think there should be a federal bare minimum that is commiserate with a living wage at the lowest state level (living wage being something along the lines of housing, food, transportation), and states and municipalities/cities should be able to determine their levels beyond that (or keep it at the federal level). I agree, $15 is too much for many parts of the country and it makes no sense to make that the federal level. My position is there is nowhere where $7.25 gets you housing, food, and transportation at a sanitary, safe, and clean manner. To live on $7.25 you are either sacrificing your health, your safety, or your sanity.

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I think there should be a federal bare minimum that is commiserate with a living wage at the lowest state level (living wage being something along the lines of housing, food, transportation), and states and municipalities/cities should be able to determine their levels beyond that (or keep it at the federal level). I agree, $15 is too much for many parts of the country and it makes no sense to make that the federal level. My position is there is nowhere where $7.25 gets you housing, food, and transportation at a sanitary, safe, and clean manner. To live on $7.25 you are either sacrificing your health, your safety, or your sanity.

That ain't happening at 15 either, lol. Unless we're talking about the regions with a low cost of living, the same regions that can't afford it. San Fran has a 15 dollar wage I think, right? You make 30k a year there and you're still on government assistance.

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NY and Cali are the worst ****ing states to live in by far, especially for a low skilled worked. They tax like crazy.

Sure, if by worst states you mean the most desirable states to live in.

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Sure, if by worst states you mean the most desirable states to live in.

If you have money...

[nastynice]

If people are willing to hide their views and work with minorities, I would argue they aren’t really racists .

Wow..

It's dead argument bro.

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If you have money...

That's kinda how life works.

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That's kinda how life works.

We're specifically talking about people that don't, you know, minimum wage employees, you silly goose.