This is why they kneel

[joeyc77]

By claiming you are not trying to cater to certain races to get their vote, you are absolutely catering to a specific race to get theirs (I’ll let you figure out which).

Like I said, if you don’t believe systemic racism against black people (and other minorities) is a problem, it will never get solved.

The reason black people don’t vote for you and your party is not because the other side caters to them to buy their votes, it’s because you’re side says “you’re lying, there is no problem” and the other side says “I believe you”.

Your second paragraph is the problem. It’s not that I/we don’t believe in racism. It’s that it’s on an individual level. I’m not saying individuals are not racist. I’m saying our laws allow them to be so long as though don’t infer on a minorities rights. America is one of the most multicultural countries in the world and other ethnicities/races have had success in the US. Why would white racists only hold down one of those races?

I’m not worried about black votes. Honestly, I’m not worried about their feelings. I’m concerned about creating an economic situation in which they can thrive if they choose to.

[valade16]

Your second paragraph is the problem. It’s not that I/we don’t believe in racism. It’s that it’s on an individual level. I’m not saying individuals are not racist. I’m saying our laws allow them to be so long as though don’t infer on a minorities rights. America is one of the most multicultural countries in the world and other ethnicities/races have had success in the US. Why would white racists only hold down one of those races?

I’m not worried about black votes. Honestly, I’m not worried about their feelings. I’m concerned about creating an economic situation in which they can thrive if they choose to.

Exactly, you don’t believe in the problem, so you will never provide a solution to a problem you don’t believe exists. My point is the majority of black people in this country are saying we have a systemic problem and you’re saying “I don’t believe you”.

So you can create an economic situation that they can thrive in, but the systemic injustice will never go away, because you don’t even believe it’s a problem.

[Scoots]

I don’t accuse you of not being partisan enough, I accuse you of being partisan while claiming you are not. This is yet another example.

If I had to sum you up it would be: I wish you argued as hard for things you claim to believe in on PSD as hard as you argue for things you don’t claim to believe in.

Okay ... so I have argued that the Tea Party had some hope to shaking things up until it was corrupted and I have argued that Obamacare was a good bill until it got corrupted. So I was for neither of them so you don't like that? Because those positions certainly don't seem to make me partisan one way or the other do they?

I have stated clearly several times things I'm for so I'm not sure why you think I only argue against things.

[valade16]

Okay ... so I have argued that the Tea Party had some hope to shaking things up until it was corrupted and I have argued that Obamacare was a good bill until it got corrupted. So I was for neither of them so you don't like that? Because those positions certainly don't seem to make me partisan one way or the other do they?

I have stated clearly several times things I'm for so I'm not sure why you think I only argue against things.

The only thing I didn’t like was how GGGG made a post calling out how both the liberal and conservative protest movements were corrupted and you responded singling out how the liberal media destroyed the tea party.

You quite literally turned his bi-partisan post, partisan.

[spliff(TONE)]

The way I see it you're probably freest from the ages one to four
Around the age of five you're shipped away for your body to be stored
They promise education, but really they give you tests and scores
And they predictin' prison population by who scoring the lowest
And usually the lowest scores the poorest and they look like me
And everyday on evening news they feed you fear for free
And you so numb you watch the cops choke out a man like me
And 'til my voice goes from a shriek to whisper, "I can't breathe"
And you sit there in the house on couch and watch it on TV
The most you give's a Twitter rant and call it a tragedy
But truly the travesty, you've been robbed of your empathy
Replaced it with apathy, I wish I could magically
Fast forward the future so then you can face it
And see how ****ed up it'll be
I promise I'm honest, they coming for you
The day after they comin' for me
I'm readin' Chomsky, I read Bukowski
I'm layin' low for a week
I said somethin' on behalf of my people
And I popped up in Wikileaks
Thank God that I'm covered, the devil is smothered
And you know the evil don't sleep
Dick Gregory told me a couple of secrets before he laid down in his grave
All of us serve the same masters, all of us nothin' but slaves
Never forget in the story of Jesus, the hero was killed by the state

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG8L...ture=emb_title

[spliff(TONE)]

you don't know what I give a damn about.

Untrue. You've painted quite the clear picture over the last half decade or so.

I've provided information here about how both George's Floyd's girlfriend and bother have not wanted this rioting.

Yeah, you've mentioned that about a dozen times already now. You don't give a **** about what Mr. Floyd or those close to him would want unless it lines up with some partisan point you are trying to make.

I was against what happened in my first post.

Congrats. Such a big statement.

[spliff(TONE)]

Excellently stated.

Thank goodness a post of mine met your expectations. I am so honored and relieved.

[spliff(TONE)]

I offered an idea to protest, and you said "No one gives a **** about your stupid ideas."

you might not care, but smart people that want change should care about a protest that could actually help.

I know what you said and I know what I said. I know you love repeating things ad infinitum but it really isn't necessary.

Smart people put zero value in anything you have to say; especially in a scenario like this. Keep popping that popcorn and enjoying this free entertainment the U.S. is providing you from the comfort of your couch though.

[joeyc77]

Exactly, you don’t believe in the problem, so you will never provide a solution to a problem you don’t believe exists. My point is the majority of black people in this country are saying we have a systemic problem and you’re saying “I don’t believe you”.

So you can create an economic situation that they can thrive in, but the systemic injustice will never go away, because you don’t even believe it’s a problem.

There’s a difference between saying “there’s not a problem” and “we need to focus on parts of the problem we can actually control.” If people are going to be racist, whether they are cops, judges or jury members, there’s not much we can do about that as a society that we haven’t already done. I’m willing to stand up against real racism. I’m not willing to make a mountain out of a molehill though.

[spliff(TONE)]

The juice is loose!

[valade16]

There’s a difference between saying “there’s not a problem” and “we need to focus on parts of the problem we can actually control.” If people are going to be racist, whether they are cops, judges or jury members, there’s not much we can do about that as a society that we haven’t already done. I’m willing to stand up against real racism. I’m not willing to make a mountain out of a molehill though.

Except you quite literally are saying there’s not a problem when it comes to systemic racism. You in this very thread said you don’t believe it exists.

Listen to your rhetoric. We’ve done all we can to stop racism? What black people think is a problem is “making a mountain out of a molehill”

Now imagine you claim you’re going to try to help someone, but also that you don’t believe their problem exists, that we’ve already done all we can do to fix that problem, and that the problem is really making a mountain out of a molehill.

That’s why black people don’t take you or your message seriously.

[Sick Of It All]

Can't quote the source because I have no idea what the source is, but NPR said this evening: In 2019 there were 9 unarmed black people killed by the police. In 2019 there were 19 unarmed white people killed by the police.

Considering the fact that the black population is what 15%, then you can see that they get killed at a higher rate.

[statquo]

The juice is loose!

The glove didn't fit!

[GGGGG-Men]

I think it's the same issue.

You’re right.


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[Lil Rhody]

Obama with all the answers...... About twelve years late buddy. Quit acting like you weren't part of the problem

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