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    Quote Originally Posted by blams View Post
    That supports our argument ; that's incredibly disproportionate

    The debate has never been "whites don't suffer from police brutality"
    That's not really true. It's not uncommon to hear "This is a black problem only, not a white problem".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    That's not really true. It's not uncommon to hear "This is a black problem only, not a white problem".
    Is there anything you wonít both sides?

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Is there anything you wonít both sides?
    Probably.

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    It's not just black and white. Race and racism is a tool used to sell a story by the media and the government. The real targeted oppressed are the poor, particularly urban poor. It is true that the populations that fit that descriptor are more black than the average population, but poor white people, poor latin people, poor asian people, poor middle-eastern people are similarly screwed by the system.

    The system is helping keep black people down, but the psychology and the marketing programs are helping keep them down more than the other races the system is attacking equally.

    We need almost a clean sweep of the people in power in government to get some actual positive change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    It's not just black and white. Race and racism is a tool used to sell a story by the media and the government. The real targeted oppressed are the poor, particularly urban poor. It is true that the populations that fit that descriptor are more black than the average population, but poor white people, poor latin people, poor asian people, poor middle-eastern people are similarly screwed by the system.

    The system is helping keep black people down, but the psychology and the marketing programs are helping keep them down more than the other races the system is attacking equally.

    We need almost a clean sweep of the people in power in government to get some actual positive change.
    We will never solve a problem we donít believe exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    We will never solve a problem we donít believe exists.
    The problem clearly exists, but selling it as the government attacking the poor may be more productive, certainly with racists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    The problem clearly exists, but selling it as the government attacking the poor may be more productive, certainly with racists.
    The idea that we have to modify the scope of the problem to appeal to racists certainly wonít appeal to those being marginalized.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    The idea that we have to modify the scope of the problem to appeal to racists certainly wonít appeal to those being marginalized.
    We don't have to, but as long as it's sold as a race issue even white people who are not racist are not going to identify with it as much. As long as the government isn't called out for what they are doing but instead it's that the police are racist then we are letting them off the hook.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    no, they couldn't....not without the potential of creating a mistrial....there are procedures to follow in investigations involving an officer...it's the same reason the other 3 are thus far not charged


    So the prosecutor in the case just amended the charge from 3rd degree murder to 2nd degree murder for Chauvin. They absolutely could have arrested that piece of **** earlier. The protesting certainly expedited the manner in which it was handled.

    The other 3 officers will be charged as well but to lesser crimes from what is read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    but Antifa doesn't exist and didn't do nothing, right.



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    Can you guys just stop with this ****.

    You make bold inflammatory bs statements like ďantifa doesnít existĒ as if people are saying that.

    The point is that all of this, the protests, the anthem kneeling, the anger, etc is spawned by police brutality.

    You canít pretend the core issue doesnít exist and then wonder why antifa, gangs, etc are taking advantage of this moment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    some people are using a picture of Hitler with a bible, except it's fake.

    any comparison from Hitler to Trump is just ignorant.

    One instituted a police state and the other....hmmm


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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Can you guys just stop with this ****.

    You make bold inflammatory bs statements like ďantifa doesnít existĒ as if people are saying that.

    The point is that all of this, the protests, the anthem kneeling, the anger, etc is spawned by police brutality.

    You canít pretend the core issue doesnít exist and then wonder why antifa, gangs, etc are taking advantage of this moment.


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    You should know better by now...
    Let's get embedded tweets working again!

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    This is whatís crazy: https://twitter.com/nypdshea/status/...001455111?s=21

    Iíve seen a few of those set ups. Maybe itís the gangs that roll into cities every night or maybe itís antifa or maybe a dozen other things. But there are some groups sabotaging a movement.

    Iíd support it if it was driven by a revolution but thatís not what this is. Gangs rolling in to take merch is not an overthrow of power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GGGGG-Men View Post
    Can you guys just stop with this ****.

    You make bold inflammatory bs statements like ďantifa doesnít existĒ as if people are saying that.

    The point is that all of this, the protests, the anthem kneeling, the anger, etc is spawned by police brutality.

    You canít pretend the core issue doesnít exist and then wonder why antifa, gangs, etc are taking advantage of this moment.
    This is what we do. Blame it on Antifa, blame it on police personally inciting the riots, blame it on Trump supporters. It's never one thing. Trying to say it is only one reason is just as wrong as saying it's only one other reason. The main reason for me to protest is the system screwing the poor and drug laws. We are beyond there being only one complaint.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    We don't have to, but as long as it's sold as a race issue even white people who are not racist are not going to identify with it as much. As long as the government isn't called out for what they are doing but instead it's that the police are racist then we are letting them off the hook.
    But if we donít call out the government for their systemic bias against black people the systemic bias against black people will never stop.

    The black protestors arenít the ones saying itís only a few cops who are racist, thatís the other side (like Joey). The protestors are saying police and the system are racist/biased.

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