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  1. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    Based on him shooting 37/25 in the Australian league

    I could care less about any excuses. Against competition less than top notch, thatís bad. Itís not reasonable to have a question?

    And for the 100000th time, yes, I think he will be better. Yes I want him. Yes Iíd trade up within reason. Yes there is a chance he isnít a very good shooter. Need to keep going over it?

    Ive said for months i think heís top 2 in this fairly weak draft. I hope we get him
    He played 13 games lol small sample size. Those games mean nothing. I can see him shooting 40% his rookie year but heís always been able to shoot. I doubt he forgot how to. I donít get whatís the point of responding then lol if we both agree we want him. I donít think this class ends up as weak as advertised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna View Post
    Hard to say LaMelo is a threat from 3 when he was bricking them at a 25% clip on high volume. LaMelo has a long way to go IMO. He clearly has high potential, but heís still a very risky pick given how far away he is from his ceiling. The first few years could be very ugly (but then again weíre used to seeing Payton, DSJ, Frank, etc. run point).

    I donít even see the Rondo/Rubio floor comparisons tbh, because while heís a great passer, I donít see him as a ďpass-firstĒ selfless player like those guys are. At the end of the day, heís always been a scorer first and foremost and will probably take a lot of shots regardless of whether heís efficient or not. 17 PPG on 16.7 shots in the NBL is very poor. Itís a shame he couldnít play more games to prove that he could he more efficient than he showed.
    https://www.reddit.com/r/NYKnicks/co...ame_vs_cairns/

    Reddit thread with link to full game for LaMelo. You can tell 10 minutes in that he's most definitely a pass-first player, that he's the best passer on the floor, and that his shot is not nearly as broken as many suggest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    Morant was last years draft and it turned out fine for MEM due to the ping pong balls helping them get Morant, but you cant compare Jackson to DOncic & Trae.
    Exactly
    If the Ping Pong balls don't help Memphis get the #2 last year and they get the #5 for example, they would most definitely have regretted that decision.

    Now its the Knicks turn to get some of that Ping Pong help.
    Knicks get the #1 pick and take LaMelo. They still have the core and every other pick to work with.
    Sign Gallo and draft some 3nD guys. 3 of RJB, Mitch, Frank, DSJ or Knox take the next steps in their games and all of a sudden the Knicks don't look so bad and actually start to look surprisingly good.
    Knicks are not that far away. Getting LaMelo is the big step forward this team needs. His skill level and feel for the game are undeniable. That will 100% translate in the NBA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxplayerxx23 View Post
    He played 13 games lol small sample size. Those games mean nothing. I can see him shooting 40% his rookie year but heís always been able to shoot. I doubt he forgot how to. I donít get whatís the point of responding then lol if we both agree we want him. I donít think this class ends up as weak as advertised.
    There can be good players. Just doesnít have any ďcanít missĒ type guys. Or guys that are already being touted as true game-changers

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    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    you're in the ball thread and it bothers you that he's being discussed? i guess no international players should be talked about?
    It doesnít brother that he is being discussed I just have no idea how either of you are reaching these conclusions


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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    There can be good players. Just doesnít have any ďcanít missĒ type guys. Or guys that are already being touted as true game-changers
    LaMelo is as close to can't miss as you can get in this draft. At the very worst he's a solid NBA player.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SK6 View Post
    LaMelo is as close to can't miss as you can get in this draft. At the very worst he's a solid NBA player.
    In this draft, yes. I agree, Iíve been saying that for months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SK6 View Post
    LaMelo is as close to can't miss as you can get in this draft. At the very worst he's a solid NBA player.
    At the very worst heís a bust.

    His floor is lower than people realize.

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    LaMelo Ball definitely tops on the Knicks draft board

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    At the very worst heís a bust.

    His floor is lower than people realize.
    Based on the YouTube highlights Iíve see his floor is Oscar Robinson


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    Oscar Robertson was an NCAA phenom, which immediately translated to the Pros. Lonzo Ball was billed as the next Big O. Didn't even come close.

    LaMelo Ball plays in the Australian leagues which isn't even close to the level in competition to the NCAA. His numbers are fine but nowhere near Oscar Robertson's 30+ ppg.

    LaMelo Ball has the potential to be one cornerstone of the Knicks new foundation but he's not the transcendental player who will turn the Knicks into a Championship contender. For that, the Knicks will need to upgrade the shooting guard and power forward position.

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    Strengths
    - Has elite size for a point guard at 6-foot-7. Controls the game from his unique vantage point with impressive creativity, flair, poise and instincts operating off a live dribble. Gifted ball handler who plays at different speeds and can make every pass with either hand, especially operating out of pick-and-roll. Throws 90-foot outlets, makes magical touch passes.
    - Has a chance to be an adequate defender due to his combination of terrific size, quick feet and instincts, particularly when he's playing with energy. Already has some impressive moments rotating for steals and contesting shots around the basket. Excellent rebounder for a guard.
    - Won't turn 19 until well after the draft. Will be one of the youngest players picked in the first round. Might still be growing.

    Improvement areas
    - Has struggled to score efficiently throughout his career. Shot just 46% from 2-point range and 25% from 3. Shoots jumpers with unorthodox mechanics, including a two-handed release while kicking out his legs. The touch he shows on floaters and career 82% free throw percentage leaves room for optimism, but his inability to buy a basket at times this season in the half court was discouraging.
    - Lacks a degree of high-end explosiveness creating offense from a standstill and beating opponents off the dribble. Doesn't have the strength to finish what he does create around the basket. Relies on a lot of tough floaters and other difficult attempts inside the arc.
    - Indifferent defender for much of his career. Still reverts back to that frequently, especially off the ball. Struggles to get over screens due to his lack of strength. Has been maligned at times for his work ethic and level of focus.

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    We're not getting LaMelo fellas. Our draft pick is too low.

    Trade the pick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadyOne View Post
    There can be good players. Just doesnít have any ďcanít missĒ type guys. Or guys that are already being touted as true game-changers
    There are a lot of media outlets who feel that way too but I think a 6'8" point guard who can drive, pass, is a crafty finisher and with time will probably become a consistent shooter like his brother who was shooting 40% from 3 this season, I think LaMelo is a game changer.

    Knicks might not have to trade up to get him either. That conversation needs to die down and let's see what the ping pong balls have in store first.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-of-2020-draft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knicks Boogie View Post
    There are a lot of media outlets who feel that way too but I think a 6'8" point guard who can drive, pass, is a crafty finisher and with time will probably become a consistent shooter like his brother who was shooting 40% from 3 this season, I think LaMelo is a game changer.

    Knicks might not have to trade up to get him either. That conversation needs to die down and let's see what the ping pong balls have in store first.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-of-2020-draft
    Again. I like LaMelo a lot. I think heís going to be very good. Iíd love to have a shot to draft him. Iíve said over and over, I liked him over everyone in this draft.

    I just donít quite consider him ďcanít missĒ. Thereís questions. As a baseline for ďcant missĒ, I thought that fit Zion, Ja. Also, see guys like that for definitions of ďgame changerĒ

    If he pans out, absolutely he could be. Do I feel good enough about him being an all-star that Iíd bet money on it, no, I donít. Thereís issues with his game on both sides of the ball. Potentially fixable, but still work to do. That drops him a notch. If he came in without those questions, and played against better comp, he would have 10 times the hype around him
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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    Based on the YouTube highlights Iíve see his floor is Oscar Robinson


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