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  1. #1
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    Paul Pierce DOES NOT have LeBron in his all-time top-5


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    So?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYKalltheway View Post
    So?
    So?

    Are you kidding me? You should be outraged. I had a hard time sleeping last night when I heard this.
    The Baker has come. Believe the hype.


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    He’s called “The Truth”


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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    He’s called “The Truth”


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    The irony, right? I knew you'd come to your senses.
    The Baker has come. Believe the hype.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vee-Rex View Post
    So?

    Are you kidding me? You should be outraged. I had a hard time sleeping last night when I heard this.
    I don't get outraged by facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vee-Rex View Post
    So?

    Are you kidding me? You should be outraged. I had a hard time sleeping last night when I heard this.
    I had a hard time sleeping last night, too. I didn't know WHY....but now that I've read this for the first time, this is obviously the reason. I mean it couldn't be anything to do with a pandemic...gotta be one ex-player's view of a current player's status in the history of a league I no longer give two ***** about.
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    To me:

    MJ / Kareem / LeBron are the only locks as GOAT top 5. The other spots are debatable based on personal preferences.


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    Oversimplifying things...

    League MVPS + Finals MVPS:
    MJ = 11
    Kareem = 8
    LeBron = 7

    Magic = 6
    Duncan = 5
    Bird = 5
    Russell = 5
    Wilt = 4
    Shaq = 4
    Kobe = 3
    Hakeem= 3

    The biggest of the several flaws in creating a list this simple is how to value Wilt and Russell who couldn't win FMVP and played so much earlier than the rest of the list.


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    Given PP is still being petty over a situation he created by actually spitting at the Cavs bench makes this the pettiest of petty rankings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnicksorBust View Post
    Oversimplifying things...

    League MVPS + Finals MVPS:
    MJ = 11
    Kareem = 8
    LeBron = 7

    Magic = 6
    Duncan = 5
    Bird = 5
    Russell = 5
    Wilt = 4
    Shaq = 4
    Kobe = 3
    Hakeem= 3

    The biggest of the several flaws in creating a list this simple is how to value Wilt and Russell who couldn't win FMVP and played so much earlier than the rest of the list.
    The biggest flaw of them all is that these people weren't competing against each other for MVP awards. Which brings us to the notion that just having this number thrown around makes no sense as it merely reflects the dynamic between Jordan and Drexler or Lebron with Melo, not Lebron with guys from your list like Magic, Bird, Erving, Hakeem or even Kobe with whom they fought over a few but they were at a different stage in their career.

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    i agree with Pierce. he's probably well on his way to top 5, but with only 3 championships, and losing 3 finals he had the horses to win with(2011, 2014, 2017. he should have won these 3, had the players to do it and failed, period), he can't be number 2, or certainly not number 1. he should have 6 titles right now. 6-3. he's been outplayed too many times in the finals as well (2007 tony parker, tim duncan, 2011 Dirk, Wade, jason terry lolz, 2017 Durant). he passes Shaq with another title

    1. His Airness
    2. Kareem
    3. Mystic Johnson
    4. Timmy!
    5. Shaquille
    6. Lebron
    7. Wilt
    8. Bird
    9. the Dream
    10. K Bryant
    Last edited by hidalgo; 05-21-2020 at 03:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hidalgo View Post
    i agree with Pierce. he's probably well on his way to top 5, but with only 3 championships, and losing 3 finals he had the horses to win with(2011, 2014, 2017. he should have won these 3, had the players to do it and failed, period), he can't be number 2, or certainly not number 1. he should have 6 titles right now. 6-3. he's been outplayed too many times in the finals as well (2007 tony parker, tim duncan, 2011 Dirk, Wade, jason terry lolz, 2017 Durant). he passes Shaq with another title

    1. His Airness
    2. Kareem
    3. Mystic Johnson
    4. Timmy!
    5. Shaquille
    6. Lebron
    7. Wilt
    8. Bird
    9. the Dream
    10. K Bryant
    Well said and probably the best explanation. In my mind he has 6 titles as well and if he's not #1 it's only because he hasn't retired yet.
    The Baker has come. Believe the hype.


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    I admire that Paul Pierce is keeping that old school mentality when it comes to rivalries.

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    I don't know how anyone can argue that Lebron is not a top 3 player of all time. I personally have him easily locked in at #2

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