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  1. #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna View Post
    I doubt Wood wants more than 2 years. He is eligible for the max in 2 years I believe and he’ll be a FA at 26 which is perfect.

    I like Gallo too, but he’s getting older and he’s been injured frequently in his career. That would give me some pause on a 4 year deal.
    If you put max and Wood in the same sentence again, you gotta take a time out.

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    Knicks Hire New Assistant GM

    Quote Originally Posted by HeartOfStarks View Post
    Yeah who knows. Seems like they prefer Bogs over Buddy as starter. Not to say they don’t want Hield but maybe they like the 1st rounder there and have a brighter outlook on Randle/DSJ meaning they think they can develop and utilize them. I’m just spitballing tho
    They kinda screwed themselves with signing Barnes, but I still think they can do better than that offer.

    Buddy is definitely someone to keep on the radar though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by east fb knicks View Post
    Not gonna lie i think that mitch gallo combo could be special especially if we end up with ball
    Ball would change everything for this team.
    We'd start seeing guys like Knox play much better.
    Having an elite playmaker you can build around makes adding pieces much simpler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba313 View Post
    If you put max and Wood in the same sentence again, you gotta take a time out.


    All it takes is 1-2 years. Ingram is gonna get a max in FA and people would have laughed at that suggestion last year.

    And yes I know he was a top pick, but he didn’t play like one until now. If Wood looks dominant and puts up big numbers as a stretch 4, he’s going to get paid very handsomely by someone in 2 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeartOfStarks View Post
    Meh I’m not sure it’s a horrible idea

    RJ was inconsistent last season, which is common for rookies. But I don’t think he should just automatically start because he was drafted high. He probably will start and I’m good with that and trying to run offense through him but he has a long way to go man.

    These 19/20 year olds aren’t typically coming into the league and helping teams win as starters right away. It takes time. Just look at Tre Young and how atrocious the Hawks have been with him running the ship. And he’s way better than RJ.
    I wouldn't say trae is way better than rj bkuz his defense is horrible

    But you have to look at coaching too fiz was horrible probably the worst ive ever seen

    Give us thibs and watch guys like rj and knox take that next step in development

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    Quote Originally Posted by east fb knicks View Post
    I wouldn't say trae is way better than rj bkuz his defense is horrible

    But you have to look at coaching too fiz was horrible probably the worst ive ever seen

    Give us thibs and watch guys like rj and knox take that next step in development
    He’s way better


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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    He’s way better


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    Hot take right there lol

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    Pretty interesting read where Mark Cuban talked about how the Knicks misused Tim Hardaway Jr. He goes on to say: New York gave him the ball to create when he's really a knockdown shooter. Sounds about right. The other part of the equation is the fact, the Knicks continued to undervalue the importance of the point guard position.

    I really think Leon Rose firing everyone and basically bringing in fresh blood from the outside is going to help the Knicks become a more consistent franchise. If the Knicks get a great point guard, they'll come a long way in a short period of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ewing View Post
    He’s way better


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    Don't get me wrong he's obviously better but not light years ahead of rj

    Ther are 2 sides to basketball trae is horrible in defense and his play does not equal wins

    To me morant is way bettet than both

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    In early February, shortly after news that the Knicks would make Leon Rose their next team president leaked out, the Cavaliers front office was together for a meeting ahead of that week’s trade deadline. It was a business-as-usual affair except for one moment — the chance to needle Brock Aller about his future.

    He had been a Cleveland executive for the last five years, but as soon as Rose’s hire appeared imminent, his colleagues couldn’t avoid ribbing him. They all knew that Aller already had a good relationship with Rose. The message was succinct, even if it was facetious: There goes Brock to the Knicks.

    Aller played it cool, but about two months later those jokes became real. The Knicks hired Aller last month to be their new VP of basketball and strategic planning, the first addition made by Rose since he took over in March. That choice was the first indication of how Rose plans to reorient the front office — he has also since added Frank Zanin and Walt Perrin — as he takes over a franchise that has piled up seven straight losing seasons.

    “He’s a big-picture guy,” David Griffin, the former Cavaliers GM and now Pelicans lead executive, said of Aller, “who is also a diabolical genius from a cap standpoint.”

    In Aller, Rose has hired an adviser renown for his mastery of the salary cap and exploitation of collective bargaining agreement penumbras. Although Aller is not well-known, he earned plaudits for his work helping the Cavaliers manipulate the cap and became a vital resource to Griffin and current general manager Koby Altman.

    He should have a significant voice in the Knicks front office as well. Aller and Rose have known each other for a long time, before he officially moved over to the Cavaliers, and have a relationship forged through a mutual acquaintance — World Wide Wes — who was close with Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert. Rose, with loads of cap space and seven first-round picks over the next four years left for him by his predecessors in front office, will have room to be resourceful with the Knicks.

    Aller earned a reputation for creative thinking during his time in Cleveland, where his job encompassed strategy, planning trades and free agency, and looking for inventive transactions. He joined the Cavaliers front office in 2014, after Griffin was named GM, and immediately started pushing for the team to acquire Brendan Haywood. Aller recognized that Haywood’s contract had been grandfathered in from the old CBA, and would give the Cavaliers a useful trade resource because it ballooned from roughly $2 million in 2014 to a non-guaranteed $10.5 million for the 2015-16 season. The Cavaliers acquired Haywood that July and dealt him away the next offseason to create a large cap exception and ease their financial burden.

    “He’s not a scout, he never played, he’s not like a basketball guy in the basketball sense,” said one league source with knowledge of Aller’s role in the Cavaliers organization. “Just every day he would come up with ideas — trade ideas, G League stuff, everything in the CBA. He would always try to find loop holes. He would look into every possible thing with that kind of stuff.”

    The league source added: “He’s like a computer in a way because he studies that ****, he reads it, he knows everyone’s contract, everyone’s incentives. He’s really good. He’s really bright and smart.”

    Before hiring Aller, Griffin said he was first going to look outside the organization to fill that job. But Aller had made an impression on him, and Griffin became convinced by Aller’s work for Gilbert, where he was also involved in strategic planning and development for Quicken Loans. Aller had served as a liaison between the Cavaliers and Gilbert and the rest of his business holdings. Gilbert had tried to convince the Cavaliers front office to bring in Aller, Griffin said, and he was finally the GM that did.

    Griffin installed Aller as part of what he called “the nerd cave,” a three-person group charged with coming up with ideas to push the boundaries of the cap. Aller gained a reputation as detail-oriented executive regularly looking to wring out as much value as he could from a transaction. He also remained an important intermediary between the organization and Gilbert, league sources said.

    “He gets more excited about protections on a second-round pick than anyone else on the planet,” said an NBA executive who knows Aller. “He loves that stuff.”

    People reached for this story said Aller’s knowledge of contracts around the league is almost encyclopedic. He was one of the driving voices behind the Cavaliers’ two-year, $6 million non-guaranteed contract with Pat McCaw in 2019, league sources said. It was a controversial deal in which Cleveland signed the restricted free agent in late December and then released him after just three games and ahead of the league’s deadline to guarantee contracts for the season.

    “Brock can rank the order the value of every piece of paper in the NBA,” Griffin said. “Not in terms of how good a player they are, but in terms of how useful their contract is. He will make sure that if he has anything to say about it, every deal your organization signs has a level of optionality that some teams don’t think of. That’s the benefit of him. You’re not going to do better than him in terms of contract structure.”

    Aller played an integral role in the Cavaliers’ acquisition of Timofey Mozgov in January 2015, as the team made a number of trades to improve its roster after landing LeBron James the summer before. The Mozgov deal was the culmination of a series of trades (five in all) and signings in which the franchise was able to acquire three key rotation players for a team that went to the NBA Finals that season and won the title the next. The sequence involved Cleveland taking minimum deals to slowly add more cap space and acquire non-guaranteed contracts, all while using second-round picks to grease the wheels.

    The Cavaliers, Griffin said, became the only team in NBA history to go from having max salary cap room to becoming a tax-paying team in the same season. That was able to happen because of Aller’s contributions and the work of that trio. The NBA has since cleaned up the CBA loopholes that allowed those trades to occur.

    The NBA executive added: “(The Knicks are) going from not doing that at all to maybe the most creative guy in the league.”

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    Sounds like the Knicks made a good hire here. I am intrigued.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garrett2010 View Post
    In early February, shortly after news that the Knicks would make Leon Rose their next team president leaked out, the Cavaliers front office was together for a meeting ahead of that week’s trade deadline. It was a business-as-usual affair except for one moment — the chance to needle Brock Aller about his future.

    He had been a Cleveland executive for the last five years, but as soon as Rose’s hire appeared imminent, his colleagues couldn’t avoid ribbing him. They all knew that Aller already had a good relationship with Rose. The message was succinct, even if it was facetious: There goes Brock to the Knicks.

    Aller played it cool, but about two months later those jokes became real. The Knicks hired Aller last month to be their new VP of basketball and strategic planning, the first addition made by Rose since he took over in March. That choice was the first indication of how Rose plans to reorient the front office — he has also since added Frank Zanin and Walt Perrin — as he takes over a franchise that has piled up seven straight losing seasons.

    “He’s a big-picture guy,” David Griffin, the former Cavaliers GM and now Pelicans lead executive, said of Aller, “who is also a diabolical genius from a cap standpoint.”

    In Aller, Rose has hired an adviser renown for his mastery of the salary cap and exploitation of collective bargaining agreement penumbras. Although Aller is not well-known, he earned plaudits for his work helping the Cavaliers manipulate the cap and became a vital resource to Griffin and current general manager Koby Altman.

    He should have a significant voice in the Knicks front office as well. Aller and Rose have known each other for a long time, before he officially moved over to the Cavaliers, and have a relationship forged through a mutual acquaintance — World Wide Wes — who was close with Cavaliers owner Dan Gilbert. Rose, with loads of cap space and seven first-round picks over the next four years left for him by his predecessors in front office, will have room to be resourceful with the Knicks.

    Aller earned a reputation for creative thinking during his time in Cleveland, where his job encompassed strategy, planning trades and free agency, and looking for inventive transactions. He joined the Cavaliers front office in 2014, after Griffin was named GM, and immediately started pushing for the team to acquire Brendan Haywood. Aller recognized that Haywood’s contract had been grandfathered in from the old CBA, and would give the Cavaliers a useful trade resource because it ballooned from roughly $2 million in 2014 to a non-guaranteed $10.5 million for the 2015-16 season. The Cavaliers acquired Haywood that July and dealt him away the next offseason to create a large cap exception and ease their financial burden.

    “He’s not a scout, he never played, he’s not like a basketball guy in the basketball sense,” said one league source with knowledge of Aller’s role in the Cavaliers organization. “Just every day he would come up with ideas — trade ideas, G League stuff, everything in the CBA. He would always try to find loop holes. He would look into every possible thing with that kind of stuff.”

    The league source added: “He’s like a computer in a way because he studies that ****, he reads it, he knows everyone’s contract, everyone’s incentives. He’s really good. He’s really bright and smart.”

    Before hiring Aller, Griffin said he was first going to look outside the organization to fill that job. But Aller had made an impression on him, and Griffin became convinced by Aller’s work for Gilbert, where he was also involved in strategic planning and development for Quicken Loans. Aller had served as a liaison between the Cavaliers and Gilbert and the rest of his business holdings. Gilbert had tried to convince the Cavaliers front office to bring in Aller, Griffin said, and he was finally the GM that did.

    Griffin installed Aller as part of what he called “the nerd cave,” a three-person group charged with coming up with ideas to push the boundaries of the cap. Aller gained a reputation as detail-oriented executive regularly looking to wring out as much value as he could from a transaction. He also remained an important intermediary between the organization and Gilbert, league sources said.

    “He gets more excited about protections on a second-round pick than anyone else on the planet,” said an NBA executive who knows Aller. “He loves that stuff.”

    People reached for this story said Aller’s knowledge of contracts around the league is almost encyclopedic. He was one of the driving voices behind the Cavaliers’ two-year, $6 million non-guaranteed contract with Pat McCaw in 2019, league sources said. It was a controversial deal in which Cleveland signed the restricted free agent in late December and then released him after just three games and ahead of the league’s deadline to guarantee contracts for the season.

    “Brock can rank the order the value of every piece of paper in the NBA,” Griffin said. “Not in terms of how good a player they are, but in terms of how useful their contract is. He will make sure that if he has anything to say about it, every deal your organization signs has a level of optionality that some teams don’t think of. That’s the benefit of him. You’re not going to do better than him in terms of contract structure.”

    Aller played an integral role in the Cavaliers’ acquisition of Timofey Mozgov in January 2015, as the team made a number of trades to improve its roster after landing LeBron James the summer before. The Mozgov deal was the culmination of a series of trades (five in all) and signings in which the franchise was able to acquire three key rotation players for a team that went to the NBA Finals that season and won the title the next. The sequence involved Cleveland taking minimum deals to slowly add more cap space and acquire non-guaranteed contracts, all while using second-round picks to grease the wheels.

    The Cavaliers, Griffin said, became the only team in NBA history to go from having max salary cap room to becoming a tax-paying team in the same season. That was able to happen because of Aller’s contributions and the work of that trio. The NBA has since cleaned up the CBA loopholes that allowed those trades to occur.

    The NBA executive added: “(The Knicks are) going from not doing that at all to maybe the most creative guy in the league.”

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    Sounds like the Knicks made a good hire here. I am intrigued.
    Griffin kissing up to Knicks so next time they decide to dump KP like talent for minimum they would call him also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by east fb knicks View Post
    Don't get me wrong he's obviously better but not light years ahead of rj

    Ther are 2 sides to basketball trae is horrible in defense and his play does not equal wins

    To me morant is way bettet than both
    I think its obvious the Hawks are Tanking a couple of years to try to build themselves a foundation.
    I wouldn't use Trae's rookie contract years to judge whether he is a winning player or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SK6 View Post
    I think its obvious the Hawks are Tanking a couple of years to try to build themselves a foundation.
    I wouldn't use Trae's rookie contract years to judge whether he is a winning player or not.
    Year 3 is a huge year. Don’t give me that tanking crap Trae has bad shot selection plays 0 defense and turns it over a ton. He’s still a stud but he’s got to show us something next year. Lead his team to some wins
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