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    Former Jags LB Telvin Smith arrested for...well you need to read for yourself


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    Certain minors? What does that mean?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.B View Post
    Certain minors? What does that mean?


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    I was really confused by this term too so I looked it up and this is what I found on felonyflorida.com

    There are many countries from around the world that have different cultures. These cultures and countries differ from one another on what is an appropriate age of consent to sexual relations. Some countries say 14 while others 18. Some countries have different ages for males than females. Since America is a “melting pot” of cultures, this creates issues because sometimes individuals come here from other countries where the age of consent is lower than it is here in the United States. In the legal system, ignorance is not an excuse. Everyone who comes into West Palm Beach is expected to live by the laws of Florida, even if they have never read them.

    Florida has a large South American population. South American countries have lower ages of consent than the United States such as Brazil, Paraguay, Ecuador, and Colombia all being at 14. See Ages of Consent in South America.

    This statute makes it a West Palm Beach crime for an individual at least 24 years or older to have sex with a 16 or a 17 year old. This statute does not, however, apply to 16 or 17 year olds who have been emancipated under Florida State Chapter 743 .

    What the State Prosecutor has to Prove to Convict the Defendant
    The prosecutor must prove beyond a reasonable doubt:

    The defendant was 24 years of age or older;
    The victim was 16 or 17 years of age; and
    The defendant engaged in sexual activity with a minor in which the sexual organ of the defendant or the victim penetrated or had union with the anus, vagina, or mouth of the victim or the defendant.
    Even if the prosecutor cannot prove that you did do that act, the prosecutor can just prove that you attempted to have unlawful sex with a certain minor by committing an overt act. See Tulier v. State.

    The victim’s prior sexual conduct is not relevant. For example, a 24 year old male having sex with a promiscuous 17 year old girl would be committing this crime.

    Punishment for Unlawful Sexual Activity with Certain Minors
    This crime is a second-degree felony punishable up to 15 years in prison and a $10,000 fine. The crime is ranked as a level 6 under the Florida Criminal Punishment Code.

    Other Consequences
    Anyone who has committed this crime in West Palm Beach is going to be labeled a sex offender under Florida statute 943.0435. This means that the defendant will be required to register as a sexual offender and will be able to be found on the Florida Department of Law Enforcement’s website.

    Unfortunately, Florida’s Romeo and Juliet law, Florida Statute 943.04354, does not apply to defendants convicted of this crime. Florida’s Romeo and Juliet law allows defendants to petition the court to remove the sexual offender status.
    Basically the way I am understanding it, he had sex with a 16 or 17 year old

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    Quote Originally Posted by PackerBum9786 View Post
    I was really confused by this term too so I looked it up and this is what I found on felonyflorida.com



    Basically the way I am understanding it, he had sex with a 16 or 17 year old
    Yea that was pretty specific. Dude is an idiot.


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    Heard the Chiefs were looking to sign him

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    With the fame and money, and world these guys have access to... why? Just why? Guys like this need to be taken out back and shot in the head. Just put them in the ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfishguy85 View Post
    With the fame and money, and world these guys have access to... why? Just why? Guys like this need to be taken out back and shot in the head. Just put them in the ground.
    Makes no sense. These guys could have just about any chick they want, and this idiot chooses some underage girl. Just dumb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigfishguy85 View Post
    With the fame and money, and world these guys have access to... why? Just why? Guys like this need to be taken out back and shot in the head. Just put them in the ground.
    I mean, you could ask the same thing about the rich and powerful that had connections with Epstein. Do you think a billionaire is satisfied with what he has access to? No, they care much more about what they *don't* have access to. Bunch of sociopaths.

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