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    Round 1 (3): CB Jeffrey Okudah, Ohio State
    Round 2 (35): RB D’Andre Swift, Georgia
    Round 3 (67): EDGE Julian Okwara, Notre Dame
    Round 3 (75): G Jonah Jackson, Ohio State
    Round 4 (121): G Logan Stenberg, Kentucky
    Round 5 (166): WR Quintez Cephus, Wisconsin
    Round 5 (172): RB Jason Huntley, New Mexico State
    Round 6 (197): DI John Penisini, Utah
    Round 7 (235): DI Jashon Cornell, Ohio State

    Day 1: You can talk all you want about how the Lions should have traded out of this pick to get more value, but the truth is we don’t know what kind of offers (if any) were on the table. Jeffrey Okudah is a special cornerback prospect, a player who has allowed a completion percentage of 50% or better in each of the past three seasons. He has nearly as many forced incompletions over the last two years as he does first downs allowed. From athletic profile to production, it would be hard to draw up a better fit for Matt Patricia’s man-heavy coverage scheme than Okudah.

    “Okudah really does have it all. The “cons” on his scouting report were some of the most difficult to write of any prospect in the class. He not only has a high floor but everything you want for a high ceiling.” – PFF’s lead draft analyst Mike Renner

    Day 2: Swift is a complete running back, but I'm not sure there's much he does with the ball in his hands that I'd deem to be “special.” If you're valuing him highly, you better have a plan to take advantage of his receiving ability. He’s the top-ranked running back on PFF’s board but just the 71st-ranked player.

    “Is there something wrong with Kerryon Johnson that I don’t know of? I’m lost to explain why they would draft [Swift] here.” — PFF’s Mike Renner

    “Of all the players we were high on this year, Okwara is the one who I can’t understand why he didn’t get more love. Usually, edge defenders who check-in among the top 10 on Bruce Feldman’s Freaks list get over-drafted in the NFL and not under-drafted the way we see Okwara. Although he’s undersized, Okwara is already one of the best bull-rushers in the entire draft class and can convert speed to power exceptionally well. He played only nine games this past season before breaking his leg but earned a 90.4 pass-rushing grade in those outings.” — PFF’s Mike Renner

    “Jackson is quite easily my favorite pass-protecting guard prospect in the entire draft. On 460 pass-blocking snaps last season, Jackson allowed all of 10 pressures. Of those 10, only one came via a true one-on-one pass-rushing situation. This was nothing new, though, as he allowed even fewer pressures in 2018 (seven) on 398 pass-blocking snaps at right guard for Rutgers before transferring. He should be able to replace Graham Glasgow seamlessly for Detroit.” — PFF’s Mike Renner

    Day 3: One could argue that the Lions were looking to upgrade both starting options at guard heading into the draft, and after selecting Jonah Jackson in the third round, they doubled up with Logan Stenberg in the fourth. Stenberg has a mean streak that should play well into the physical play style that the Detroit Lions seem to be building towards. His solid work in pass protection is also promising. Stenberg has pass-blocking grades of 75.0 or higher in each of the past two seasons.

    Penisini isn’t going to get after the quarterback at a high level, but he is going to do one thing better than most — stuff the run. After notching a run-defense grade of 83.2 in 2018, he bumped that all the way up to 90.6 this past season.

    Draft Grade: A
    Here is what PFF had to say about our draft.



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    Quote Originally Posted by vader817 View Post
    Here is what PFF had to say about our draft.
    Well that's pretty positive. Nice to see.

    Unlike nfl.com's latest power rankings (Lions #30):
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...rom-2020-draft

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    Quote Originally Posted by whooligun View Post
    Well that's pretty positive. Nice to see.

    Unlike nfl.com's latest power rankings (Lions #30):
    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...rom-2020-draft
    Yeah I saw those power rankings and I'm like WTF.



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    Quote Originally Posted by vader817 View Post
    Yeah I saw those power rankings and I'm like WTF.
    Can't really argue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whooligun View Post
    Can't really argue.
    Oh I can't argue with them either. I believe we are slightly better than the Dolphins at this moment but not by much.



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    With the draft in the books time to go back and do a wrap up of how teams made out. I might be a bit of a harsh critic to the top 3 round picks, but that is where you need to hit in the draft to be successful. Sure most of the league is 4th rounders and later, but any that turn into Pro Bowlers or All-Pro players is mostly out of luck. So without further adieu, onto the Detroit Lions and that coach on the super hot seat Matt Patricia.

    1 (3) - Jeff Okudah CB Ohio St - C

    2 (3) - D'Andre Swift RB Georgia - B+

    3 (3) - Julian Okwara DE Notre Dame - C+

    3 (11) - Jonah Jackson OG Ohio St - D

    Let me get started by saying, anything the Lions say about no one wanting to trade up has to be ridiculous. They certainly had offers, but they were typical Detroit who wanted to play it safe and make sure they got their guy in Okudah. Honestly, drafting Tua made a ton of sense to have him sit on the bench and learn from Stafford for a year. However, if not Tua trading down was a simple concept in my opinion. Had they moved to 5 or 6 they still could have had Okudah or even drafted a better prospect in my opinion in Derrick Brown. I actually do like Okudah as a prospect, but to me corner is one of the most volatile positions to predict and very often takes them 2-3 years before they flourish. Previous top 10 selected corners in the recent past are Denzel Ward, Jalen Ramsey, Eli Apple, and Justin Gilbert. They have all had various success of highs and lows. Two are just okay in Ward and Apple. Meanwhile, many other first round corners later in the draft have been either okay, great, or for the most part complete busts. I think corner is one of the riskiest picks to make in the top 10 let alone top 5. I also do not understand trading Slay just to draft an unknown in Okudah. Granted you saved money, but you really got nothing in return giving up one of the best corners in the league. I really liked the Swift pick seeing how he easily could have gone in the first round and should elevate the running back position. If Kerryon Johnson stays healthy the two can give Detroit maybe the first solid running back tandem they have ever had. Okwara to me is a bit of a safe pick, but also all upside at the same time. He was injured in college and has a long ways to go before he is a viable defender. Jonah Jackson was not to me a Day 2 prospect and would have been there later in the draft. They did have a huge need at guard, but there were better options on the board. All in all this was an okay albeit predictable draft for the Lions as I had Okudah, Swift, and Okwara all mocked to them at one time or another.

    4 (15) - Logan Stenberg OG Kentucky - B+

    5 (21) - Quintez Cephus WR Wisconsin - C-

    5 (27) - Jason Huntley RB New Mexico St - D

    6 (18) - John Pensini DT Utah - B

    7 (21) - Jashon Cornell DE Ohio St - A

    Their Day 3 picks to me were a mixed bag where some players are good, but they had more pressing needs elsewhere. Regardless if Okudah is good or not they still need more corner depth and you cannot tell me Stafford is the future in Detroit. Drafting either Eason or Fromm to me would make a ton of sense for them. I really liked Stenberg the whole way. He has a Cody Whitehair and Braden Smith blue collar lunch pail type mentality to him. Had they picked him instead of Jonah Jackson earlier I would have loved it and I would not be shocked if he beats out Jackson for the starting right guard gig. Cephus is a Wisconsin receiver, come back to me when you find one that has actually stuck in this league. Huntley is an undersized back who will find a hard time on the starting line up with Kerryon Johnson and now D'Andre Swift in his way. He might contribute in the return game, but how big is that in today's NFL. Pensini and Cornell are nice upside picks to find in the later rounds of the draft. I just do not trust this coaching staff to develop them. Actually, all these defensive linemen could be fish out of water once Patricia is fired since they were drafted specifically to fit his multi defensive front where like in New England versatile players are more sought after. Unfortunately, Patricia is not as good a schemer or developer than his mentor Belichick has been. Overall, I think general manager Bob Quinn has done a poor job since his arrival in Detroit from coaching hires to draft picks. If not for Okudah probably panning out this would have been a terrible draft. Still what is the point of another corner after getting rid of Slay when they could not even win with him on their defense. It will not get better with Okudah. This whole culture needs a change up in Detroit and they will continue to be an underachieving team until the front office and ownership changes. Overall, the grade to me is a meager C- and it would be lower if not for Stenberg and Swift being a great value.
    I found this on Walterfootball by a reader on the website. I agree with some of his points especially the points in bold. There are other points but those two are really true.



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    From Sports Illustrated

    Not a bad article and there are only 2 comments but this one stood out the most

    Logan.... SMH at ya Logan.
    C+ for the best RB in the draft?
    That pick was a A+ for Stafford and Bevell and they added big mean Gs to open up holes for a three headed monster in the back field with KJ, Swift and Bo.
    Ten seasons Stafford went without a solid O-line and a solid RB now he has both and you grade the pick a C+... Your funny! Not that bright, but funny...



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    "Your funny! Not that bright..."


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    Quote Originally Posted by whooligun View Post
    "Your funny! Not that bright..."

    haha I caught that, too

    wait, are we friends?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GuySir View Post
    haha I caught that, too

    wait, are we friends?
    Definitely not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whooligun View Post
    Definitely not.
    we agree again? this is getting spooky
    Last edited by GuySir; 05-01-2020 at 01:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whooligun View Post
    Definitely not.
    we are all friends here

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    Quote Originally Posted by rocket View Post
    we are all friends here

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