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  1. #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJBASEBALL22 View Post
    Remember though, they played a lot of the season while out Theilan


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    Yup. Thielen will easily lead the team in targets/catches/yards as long as hes healthy.


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    2020 Vikings Draft:
    1: Justin Jefferson WR LSU
    1: Jeff Gladney CB TCU
    2: Ezra Cleveland OT Boise State
    3: Cameron Dantzler CB Mississippi State
    4: D.J. Wonnum DE South Carolina
    4: James Lynch DT Baylor
    4: Troy Dye LB Oregon
    5: Harrison Hand CB Temple
    5: K.J. Osborn WR Miami
    6: Blake Brandel OT Oregon State
    6: Josh Metellus S Michigan
    7: Kenny Willekes DE Michigan State
    7: Nate Stanley QB Iowa
    7: Brian Cole S Mississippi State
    7: Kyle Hinton G Washburn

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    Draft 2020: Vikings Select LSU WR Justin Jefferson with the No. 22 overall pick

    Quote Originally Posted by vikingsfan0845 View Post
    Yup. Thielen will easily lead the team in targets/catches/yards as long as hes healthy.


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    If Jefferson gets over 50 catches and 500 yards I call that a success. Just the way the offense is ran and then I figure Irv to have a much bigger role this year. The only way he gets close to 700 yards imo is either a) Theilan gets hurt or b) dude balls out and is even better than we expected.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJBASEBALL22 View Post
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    good point, tho Stefon actually had more targets the year before...with Adam healthy all year

    Cousins threw 444 passes last year (606 the year before)...so, just for round numbers, say he throws 500...100 to RBs, 100 to TEs, 300 to WRs or thereabouts
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    A debate with some fellow Vikings fans....

    Did Joe Burrow make Jefferson (and Chase) really good or is Jefferson (and Chase) really that good that they made Burrow look really good?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Swayze View Post
    A debate with some fellow Vikings fans....

    Did Joe Burrow make Jefferson (and Chase) really good or is Jefferson (and Chase) really that good that they made Burrow look really good?
    All are very good and they brought in some offensive help for the scheme maximizing them all. Spreading it out helped burrow, moving inside helped Jefferson and chase benefited from a lot of space/more 1v1s on the outside with Jefferson/said system and a qb who can get it there

    My answer is that they all made each other look better in a greatly designed offense to maximize their talent. It was one of the best college offenses ever so I think there is room for each to be very talented.


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    Justin Jefferson
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    Speaking Wednesday, Vikings OC Gary Kubiak said first-round WR Justin Jefferson will "move inside [to the slot] quite a bit."

    Bisi Johnson was the Vikings' lightly-used slot wideout last season, kicking inside 38.2% of the time, but Adam Thielen was also inside quite a bit at a 32% clip. Jefferson was LSU's full-time slot man in 2019, running 78% of his routes inside, showing incredible route-running ability and reliable hands while winning on crossers, ins, and outs. With Jefferson in the fold, it likely means Thielen will be playing outside more with Stefon Diggs now out of town. The Vikings still figure to primarily use two-wide, two-TE, and two-RB sets as their base offense.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if Jefferson surprises with his ability to play outside as well. It seems like very few mention the fact he played 79% of his snaps in 2018 on the outside. Burrow threw the ball 148 fewer times in 2018 but Jefferson still had a nice season. 875 yards and 16.2 YPC. He dominated the target share and % of receiving yards on LSU that year. Slot is likely where he makes his money but I think he'll end up being more than just a slot guy.
    2020 Vikings Draft:
    1: Justin Jefferson WR LSU
    1: Jeff Gladney CB TCU
    2: Ezra Cleveland OT Boise State
    3: Cameron Dantzler CB Mississippi State
    4: D.J. Wonnum DE South Carolina
    4: James Lynch DT Baylor
    4: Troy Dye LB Oregon
    5: Harrison Hand CB Temple
    5: K.J. Osborn WR Miami
    6: Blake Brandel OT Oregon State
    6: Josh Metellus S Michigan
    7: Kenny Willekes DE Michigan State
    7: Nate Stanley QB Iowa
    7: Brian Cole S Mississippi State
    7: Kyle Hinton G Washburn

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    Quote Originally Posted by vikingsfan0845 View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if Jefferson surprises with his ability to play outside as well. It seems like very few mention the fact he played 79% of his snaps in 2018 on the outside. Burrow threw the ball 148 fewer times in 2018 but Jefferson still had a nice season. 875 yards and 16.2 YPC. He dominated the target share and % of receiving yards on LSU that year. Slot is likely where he makes his money but I think he'll end up being more than just a slot guy.
    Oh for sure he will be more than just a slot guy, but to be honest, it wouldn't be bad either if he was. Kirk loves those short crossing routes to give his guy some yac. I think he could be very dangerous in that role.

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    JJ has signed his rookie deal! 4 year 13m with a 7m signing bonus.

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    Justin Jefferson
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    Vikings offensive coordinator Gary Kubiak said Justin Jefferson is "exactly what we drafted."

    Andrew Krammer added that Jefferson was "running with the 2's for now" but Kubiak's comments indicate Jefferson should have no problem becoming a starter. The Vikings drafted Jefferson with the No. 22 overall pick they acquired by trading Stefon Diggs to the Bills. Jefferson is expected to see a lot of work from the slot in his rookie season. He played in the slot for 90 percent of his snaps at LSU last year and set the school record for receptions (111). Jefferson's biggest competition for the job could be Olabisi Johnson, who played a third of his snaps from the slot in Minnesota last year. He recorded 294 yards over 13 games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Swayze View Post
    A debate with some fellow Vikings fans....

    Did Joe Burrow make Jefferson (and Chase) really good or is Jefferson (and Chase) really that good that they made Burrow look really good?
    I think Burrow is good but I also just didn't see elite NFL talent either. Burrow needed all the right pieces to fall into place in order to be recognized as really good. So if I'm picking a side I'm saying the talent around Joe made him look really good.

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    Well, remember, Burrow was a backup at Ohio State for 2 years before transferring to LSU....a backup to JT Barrett who went undrafted and is currently not in the league. Joe had an OK 1st yr at LSU but went into last season projected as a 4th-5th rd draft prospect............so one way or another, he turned a MASSIVE corner to put up the stats he did last year.....but also turned 23 in December

    Jefferson did well at 19 and a sophobmore then the great year last year at 20..turning 21 in Jan

    So, just like the Brady/Belichek or many other combos, the likely answer is...they're both very good but together made each other great
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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