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    Quote Originally Posted by Crovash View Post
    So you do not believe that Trum
    believe that Trum?

    I don't know whether Trump said this or not, I find it unlikely that he would seriously says this.

    I think this is more likely..

    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...g-trumps-virus

    Pence told reporters shortly after the ad was released that he had not seen Troye's comments in detail, but that "it reads to me like one more disgruntled employee that has decided to play politics during an election year."


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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    After all the times you doubted something negative about Trump that turned out to be true, I'm surprised you still doubt these things.
    all the times? list them. I can't comment unless i know what you're talking about.


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    that Joe Biden could say this about covid19 deaths is ridiculous.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ional-whopper/

    If the president had done his job, had done his job from the beginning, all the people would still be alive. All the people Im not making this up. Just look at the data. Look at the data.
    Actually, Biden is making this up. There is no data to support this, even if the president had moved rapidly in January to deal with the coronavirus and been able to persuade the Chinese leadership to be more forthcoming about the situation. Even nations that have been praised for their handling of the pandemic, such as South Korea, New Zealand and Iceland, have suffered some deaths (377 in South Korea, 25 in New Zealand and 10 in Iceland).

    In the United States, with 50 states run by governors, policies have varied greatly. Trump has been faulted for not articulating a national plan, but he would have had trouble persuading every governor to follow the exact same path.
    there is no chance that all the people that have died from coronavirus would still be alive if Trump acted differently.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    the same aide that said they will vote for Joe Biden. why would they make up anything against Trump.
    Because anyone that's voting Biden is a giant liar (and probably a terrible person)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    the same aide that said they will vote for Joe Biden. why would they make up anything against Trump.
    you're asking the wrong question.......why is she no longer voting for Trump?
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    She's obviously insane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    that Joe Biden could say this about covid19 deaths is ridiculous.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ional-whopper/





    there is no chance that all the people that have died from coronavirus would still be alive if Trump acted differently.
    Yet if Trump said something like this, you'd be rushing to his defense and telling us he was "just exaggerating".

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    of course, because Trump is literally worse than Hitler. this is what some are dumb enough to believe.

    isn't this page 1 out of divide and conquer. Trump must hate his own supporters.
    I'm just focused on trumps stupidity, if you're talking about Hitler you're having another conversation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialFNK View Post
    that Joe Biden could say this about covid19 deaths is ridiculous.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...ional-whopper/





    there is no chance that all the people that have died from coronavirus would still be alive if Trump acted differently.
    Yea, but maybe 80% would be alive. Maybe more.

    Either way it's a HUGE number, well over 200k due to his incompetence by the time election comes around.

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    No other president could ever have such a bad 4 year run and consider running again. The manner in which the trump supporters are brainwashed is just stunning.

    No doubt many propganda tactitioners are paying very close attention to trump and how such an extreme and widespread brainwashing is happening so effectively.

    Zero doubt about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    Yea, but maybe 80% would be alive. Maybe more.
    That seems INCREDIBLY optimistic, particularly considering the plain old flu without a vaccine would kill somewhere around 100k people yearly. And considering 60k+ of the corona deaths are from CA, NY, and NJ ... and those state's leadership have been publicly ignoring trump from the start, I don't know that those can be put on Trump.

    I don't think anybody will argue Trump has done a great job, but certainly we also don't know he made an 80% difference. That's just lunacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    That seems INCREDIBLY optimistic, particularly considering the plain old flu without a vaccine would kill somewhere around 100k people yearly. And considering 60k+ of the corona deaths are from CA, NY, and NJ ... and those state's leadership have been publicly ignoring trump from the start, I don't know that those can be put on Trump.

    I don't think anybody will argue Trump has done a great job, but certainly we also don't know he made an 80% difference. That's just lunacy.
    For over 3 months this virus was spreading completely unchecked. Right now, 8 months later we still dont have any scientific based plan of action from our federal govt. All they're doing is trying to time a vaccine out before elections.

    I think you are SEVERELY under estimating the power of human behavior and its consequences.

    You say its lunacy cuz you dont know the science or the math behind it, so you just see a huge number like 80% without realizing how easily realistic that number actually is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scoots View Post
    That seems INCREDIBLY optimistic, particularly considering the plain old flu without a vaccine would kill somewhere around 100k people yearly. And considering 60k+ of the corona deaths are from CA, NY, and NJ ... and those state's leadership have been publicly ignoring trump from the start, I don't know that those can be put on Trump.

    I don't think anybody will argue Trump has done a great job, but certainly we also don't know he made an 80% difference. That's just lunacy.
    Umm....publicly ignoring Trump on the coronavirus would be beneficial.

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    nasty, you know we will never know the true death toll from corona and from the CCPs response to it, but we know it is far FAR higher than reported.

    Don't bother responding because your response will just be based on your owners wishes anyhow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Umm....publicly ignoring Trump on the coronavirus would be beneficial.
    Yes, I understand that ... and the point is that even ignoring him there are 60k deaths, so how would him not being in office have saved 80%? The math doesn't work.

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