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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    Fox has higher ratings because of market segmentation, they've been basically the ONLY RW news source for decades. Until Newsmax and OANN came around could you even name a SECOND RW outlet?
    If CNN disappeared tomorrow, the few viewers they have would all move to MSNBC, and MSNBC would have the highest ratings.
    Nearly all MSM are LW.

    This is all market segmentation, you have a few conservative voices that get shared A LOT, vs a ton of LW voices that get shared a moderate amount.

    Plus, do you really think people's biases and leanings don't affect their coverage? It even happens in sports journalism, look at how ESPN tackles basically any story.
    First Bolded: Fox News still has higher ratings despite the segmentation...

    Second Bolded: Again, this is not true. I posted the list of a dozen conservative pundits off the top of my head. Can you even name a dozen relevant Liberal pundits?

    If you were to name the most influential political pundits in the country, how many Liberals possibly touch the stratosphere of Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Ben Shapiro, Dan Bongino, Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk, the Fox Five, Laura Ingraham, Glenn Beck, and less popular (but still far more popular than most liberal pudnits) like Diamond and Silk, Michael Savage, etc., not to mention previous conservative giants like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, or Megyn Kelly, or disgraced former pundits like Ann Coulter and Alex Jones, and that isn't even getting into whether Joe Rogan technically counts.

    I mean, who are the giants of Liberal punditry? Rachel Maddow, Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon, and Chris Cuomo, and none of them have even close to the following the top conservative ones do. After that, who is there? Piers Morgan and Bill Maher are just as likely to criticize the left as they are to support them. Does the View count?

    Compared to the amount of prominent and influential conservative political pundits, the left is bereft. Their ratings are certainly a pittance of conservative ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    Apparently, everyone who's come from Africa with the Omnicron variant to Europe or Canada etc, has been fully vaccinated.

    This new variant straight up doesn't give a **** about anything we've done before and I guess it carries a WAY higher viral load than even Delta.
    Right as were heading into winter.
    Good thing Dear Leader says COVID is a hoax then. Huh?

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    FL has the lowest rates of Covid in the US right now

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFVNkZWX...jpg&name=large

    Almost like it goes in seasons where the south in the summer get hit harder and then when itís cold the northern part of the country gets hit hardest next


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewersfan255 View Post
    FL has the lowest rates of Covid in the US right now

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    Almost like it goes in seasons where the south in the summer get hit harder and then when itís cold the northern part of the country gets hit hardest next


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    Itís almost like u hate the libs so much u donít care about whatís what


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewersfan255 View Post
    FL has the lowest rates of Covid in the US right now

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFVNkZWX...jpg&name=large

    Almost like it goes in seasons where the south in the summer get hit harder and then when itís cold the northern part of the country gets hit hardest next


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    Is this supposed to excuse actively being terrible at dealing with a wave when it's happening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    Sure thing, doc. Care to share what percentage of U.S. COVID-19 deaths you believe aren't really COVID-19 deaths?
    Spliffy, all I have to do is tell you that the CDC changed the way Covid related deaths were handled last fall. How many deaths early in the pandemic were With Covid as opposed to From Covid? I have given evidence that many were miscategorized early. Are you going to tell me that every Covid related death was From Covid in February-August?
    As I said, I believe the death total was inflated by about 25%. Another poster suggested that the "excess deaths" show that the number was undercounted, but I suggest that all of these deaths were tested posthumously. Had they been Covid deaths, they would have been included in the totals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brewersfan255 View Post
    FL has the lowest rates of Covid in the US right now

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFVNkZWX...jpg&name=large

    Almost like it goes in seasons where the south in the summer get hit harder and then when itís cold the northern part of the country gets hit hardest next
    No one is disputing this. The problem is Floridaís ďlet them dieĒ policies creates harder hits whenever they do get hit. Which is why theyíre 9th in deaths per Capita while California is 35th despite having the same weather and seasonsÖ

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    I don't get why the people who are saying there's no evidence for this strain being more deadly even bother.

    If there was you wouldn't believe it.

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    https://thehill.com/policy/internati...omicron-travel

    So the President of S Africa, has called the various bans against his country wrong and discriminatory, should we continue to pursue measures that harm a black country that was having serious economic and food security problems even BEFORE the world locked down?
    Are we just promoting systems of racism?

    Also, in fairness to S.Africa, they have some of the best testing and tracking policies in the world, so it's always likely that they discover new varients before everyone else. I think they discovered the Lambda variant or some other one before the rest of the world, and these varients aren't likely developing in South Africa, but are just being discovered there first.
    Effectivly were just punishing S.Africa for simply having good and effective public policy.

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    The genie is well out of the bottle now, but Biden was kind of screwed either way. Don't have one and Republicans will say he was doing nothing to keep people safe; have one and we have this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    First Bolded: Fox News still has higher ratings despite the segmentation...

    Second Bolded: Again, this is not true. I posted the list of a dozen conservative pundits off the top of my head. Can you even name a dozen relevant Liberal pundits?

    If you were to name the most influential political pundits in the country, how many Liberals possibly touch the stratosphere of Tucker Carlson, Sean Hannity, Ben Shapiro, Dan Bongino, Candace Owens, Charlie Kirk, the Fox Five, Laura Ingraham, Glenn Beck, and less popular (but still far more popular than most liberal pudnits) like Diamond and Silk, Michael Savage, etc., not to mention previous conservative giants like Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly, or Megyn Kelly, or disgraced former pundits like Ann Coulter and Alex Jones, and that isn't even getting into whether Joe Rogan technically counts.

    I mean, who are the giants of Liberal punditry? Rachel Maddow, Anderson Cooper, Don Lemon, and Chris Cuomo, and none of them have even close to the following the top conservative ones do. After that, who is there? Piers Morgan and Bill Maher are just as likely to criticize the left as they are to support them. Does the View count?

    Compared to the amount of prominent and influential conservative political pundits, the left is bereft. Their ratings are certainly a pittance of conservative ones.
    It's not just CNN and MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, virtually every non-Fox outlet is center-left or strongly left. Plus nearly every major newspaper in the country.

    Rachael Maddow doesn't have near the following of conservatives? She's the 2nd most-watched newscaster after only Tucker Carlson. She's ****ing massive.

    Owens and Kirk are NOWHERE near as big or as prominent as the voices on the left. And most of the voices on the right, are as big, or were as big due to the market segmentation I talked about before.

    And it's not just tv, that's not the only place where news happens, virtually every editorial board of every newspaper in the country is solidly center-left to progressive-left. All of their opinions sections and news sections are almost universally occupied by democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by natepro View Post
    The genie is well out of the bottle now, but Biden was kind of screwed either way. Don't have one and Republicans will say he was doing nothing to keep people safe; have one and we have this.
    So the plan is to go with the racist and xenophobic policy of preventing Africans from entering the country? His words, not mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    So the plan is to go with the racist and xenophobic policy of preventing Africans from entering the country? His words, not mine.
    It's fun that we keep circling back to this same argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by natepro View Post
    The genie is well out of the bottle now, but Biden was kind of screwed either way. Don't have one and Republicans will say he was doing nothing to keep people safe; have one and we have this.
    I donít suppose itís worth pointing out that South Africa has the whitest population of any African country. That wonít have any impact on their thinking. Will it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ciaban2.0 View Post
    It's not just CNN and MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NPR, virtually every non-Fox outlet is center-left or strongly left. Plus nearly every major newspaper in the country.

    Rachael Maddow doesn't have near the following of conservatives? She's the 2nd most-watched newscaster after only Tucker Carlson. She's ****ing massive.

    Owens and Kirk are NOWHERE near as big or as prominent as the voices on the left. And most of the voices on the right, are as big, or were as big due to the market segmentation I talked about before.

    And it's not just tv, that's not the only place where news happens, virtually every editorial board of every newspaper in the country is solidly center-left to progressive-left. All of their opinions sections and news sections are almost universally occupied by democrats.
    Then how come they consistently get their tweets and stories recirculated more than all these massively bigger voices on the left (which you still canít even name).

    Iím not just talking about TV, Iím talking social media, which has a far bigger impact than your local paper.

    You have to be living under a rock to think there is no conservative political media. You are talking about the Daily Herald and NPR in terms of their ability to influence and reach as many people as Twitter and Facebook. Itís honestly the biggest display of victim mentality Iíve ever seen.

    Youíre like Joe Rogan complaining about how heís being silenced when he has the largest podcast on the planet.

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