COVID-19 Response: An issue that shouldn't be at all political....yet here we are

[metswon69]

This all sounds like drivel and nonsense. What are we to do with your "facts" and "common sense"?

Don't tell Ciaban any of these facts. He's still hung up on only old people who were knocking on death's door dying of COVID.

[Brewersfan255]

It is always refreshing to log on here and find out these mind blowing facts. For example: I just found out today that white people don't live in rural areas in the south and that there are no poor white people. Who would've thunk?

That’s the funny part. They claim that it’s racist because black people cant afford the extra cost etc but then totally forget that there’s white people who are also poor and it affects them. They only care about one race tho


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[Brewersfan255]

They were being nice and letting others go first?

If you need to go back a year and take a statement out of context to blame Harris for something no one has even proven any relationship to current issues that’s definitely just a gotcha.

Do you have any proof that statement caused many minorities not to get vaccinated? If not are you just implying they are too stupid to understand the statement in full? Why would it cause hesitancy in minorities in full if they understood what was actually said?


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Do you have any proof that a lot of conservatives are against the vaccine because of Trump or is this something you just assume?


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[valade16]

That’s the funny part. They claim that it’s racist because black people cant afford the extra cost etc but then totally forget that there’s white people who are also poor and it affects them. They only care about one race tho

Assuming your theory is true, this means you don’t care about any of them because you’re fine with everyone who has to pay to vote.

[Brewersfan255]

Here’s a poll from CNBC

Among the 29% of U.S. voters who are unvaccinated, 83% say they do not plan to get the lifesaving shots, the survey shows. A frustrated Biden on Thursday outlined a host of new vaccine and testing mandates for federal workers and contractors as well as health-care and private company employees.

Of the unvaccinated respondents, 84% said their decision against immunization wouldn't change if the vaccines had no side effects and 87% said they still wouldn't get the shots if their employer mandated them. Just 5% and 4% of respondents, respectively, said those things would make them "much more likely" to change their minds, the survey shows. Pressure from family members made little difference, with just 2% saying that would make them much more likely to get the shots.

Some 34% of unvaccinated respondents said they were hesitant to get the shots because they didn't trust the federal government, while another 34% were worried about the vaccine's side effects. Less than 10% of unvaccinated respondents said they would be more likely to get vaccinated if the delta variant were more problematic in their community, and 7% said they would get vaccinated if asked by Trump.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...vid-shots.html

Seems like Trump has very little to do with these people not getting vaccinated but it’s easy to blame him


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[metswon69]

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/m/d5fd...-fire-232.html

I thought there wouldn't be enough people to serve peanuts?

[valade16]

Here’s a poll from CNBC

Among the 29% of U.S. voters who are unvaccinated, 83% say they do not plan to get the lifesaving shots, the survey shows. A frustrated Biden on Thursday outlined a host of new vaccine and testing mandates for federal workers and contractors as well as health-care and private company employees.

Of the unvaccinated respondents, 84% said their decision against immunization wouldn't change if the vaccines had no side effects and 87% said they still wouldn't get the shots if their employer mandated them. Just 5% and 4% of respondents, respectively, said those things would make them "much more likely" to change their minds, the survey shows. Pressure from family members made little difference, with just 2% saying that would make them much more likely to get the shots.

Some 34% of unvaccinated respondents said they were hesitant to get the shots because they didn't trust the federal government, while another 34% were worried about the vaccine's side effects. Less than 10% of unvaccinated respondents said they would be more likely to get vaccinated if the delta variant were more problematic in their community, and 7% said they would get vaccinated if asked by Trump.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...vid-shots.html

Seems like Trump has very little to do with these people not getting vaccinated but it’s easy to blame him

Seems like a large portion of those still unvaccinated just don’t want to get it no matter what, which is what I’ve been saying all along.

[metswon69]

Seems like a large portion of those still unvaccinated just don’t want to get it no matter what, which is what I’ve been saying all along.

And I certainly think you can attribute that to being political, irrespective of Trump. Yeah Donald has never been anti vaccine but I don't see people saying that when they say he handled COVID poorly.

[Brewersfan255]

And I certainly think you can attribute that to being political, irrespective of Trump. Yeah Donald has never been anti vaccine but I don't see people saying that when they say he handled COVID poorly.

Again there’s a large percentage of people who won’t even get flu vaccines let alone Covid vaccine. There’s a large number of people who wouldn’t take it regardless of what Trump did


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[metswon69]

Again there’s a large percentage of people who won’t even get flu vaccines let alone Covid vaccine. There’s a large number of people who wouldn’t take it regardless of what Trump did


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When a more current strain of the flu kills 700,000 people in a year and a half we can start encouraging more people to get the flu vaccine as well. The flu is endemic but it wasn't always that way. There's a reason why the Spanish flu killed 50,000,000 people for example. COVID is not endemic yet. It might become that way after a certain amount of variants and people getting vaccinated but its not there as of now.

As I said, no one can really accuse Trump of being anti vaccine so irrespective of how anti vaxxers feel, he isnt a follow my lead example in that regard anyways. That said, yeah, most people who are anti vaccine probably won't change their stance unless they get deathly ill from COVID (and survive) or someone close to them who is also unvaccinated gets super ill or dies. Just because people are or aren't listening to what Trump says doesn't change the fact that political divides are absolutely being playing a part in who and who isn't vaccinated.

There's a whole political spectrum that exists outside of Trump.

[natepro]

When a more current strain of the flu kills 700,000 people in a year and a half we can start encouraging more people to get the flu vaccine as well. The flu is endemic but it wasn't always that way. There's a reason why the Spanish flu killed 50,000,000 people for example. COVID is not endemic yet. It might become that way after a certain amount of variants and people getting vaccinated but its not there as of now.

As I said, no one can really accuse Trump of being anti vaccine so irrespective of how anti vaxxers feel, he isnt a follow my lead example in that regard anyways. That said, yeah, most people who are anti vaccine probably won't change their stance unless they get deathly ill from COVID (and survives) or someone close to them who is also unvaccinated gets super ill or dies. Just because people are or aren't listening to what Trump says doesn't change the fact that political divides are absolutely being playing a part in who and who isn't vaccinated.

Make no mistake, until he was in the Oval Office and actually had to deal with things, Trump was more than happy to advance anti-vaxx tropes.

[dbroncos78087]

Here’s a poll from CNBC

Among the 29% of U.S. voters who are unvaccinated, 83% say they do not plan to get the lifesaving shots, the survey shows. A frustrated Biden on Thursday outlined a host of new vaccine and testing mandates for federal workers and contractors as well as health-care and private company employees.

Of the unvaccinated respondents, 84% said their decision against immunization wouldn't change if the vaccines had no side effects and 87% said they still wouldn't get the shots if their employer mandated them. Just 5% and 4% of respondents, respectively, said those things would make them "much more likely" to change their minds, the survey shows. Pressure from family members made little difference, with just 2% saying that would make them much more likely to get the shots.

Some 34% of unvaccinated respondents said they were hesitant to get the shots because they didn't trust the federal government, while another 34% were worried about the vaccine's side effects. Less than 10% of unvaccinated respondents said they would be more likely to get vaccinated if the delta variant were more problematic in their community, and 7% said they would get vaccinated if asked by Trump.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnb...vid-shots.html

Seems like Trump has very little to do with these people not getting vaccinated but it’s easy to blame him


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Did anyone tell them for every case of side effects from the vaccine that tens of thousands of people die of COVID?

[metswon69]

Make no mistake, until he was in the Oval Office and actually had to deal with things, Trump was more than happy to advance anti-vaxx tropes.

You mean when he talked about how vaccines cause autism? Yeah. The difference here is there no bigger fan of Donald than himself so we know how much he looks at Operation Warp Speed and the vaccine as something he is responsible for and deserves unrelenting praise in regard to. No one likes to take more credit for the vaccine than he does so of course he's going to push it. He can only push it so far though because he knows there's a significant portion of his base that are anti vaccine, anti mandate, and pro freedom. I mean heck he's even getting booed when he mentions it at some of his rallies.

[metswon69]

I'd bet that MJT thinks COVID is spread the same way HIV is.

[dbroncos78087]

I'd bet that MJT thinks COVID is spread the same way HIV is.

Is that why she insists the man she's been cheating on her husband with wear a condom?