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  1. #5986
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    Can you rightfully give Cuomo a break for his decisions in March and April because of less information than became available later without giving Trump the same? I'm not looking to give Trump a break...but not looking to give Cuomo one either. The difference is that Cuomo has done better since while Trump has not.
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    Can you rightfully give Cuomo a break for his decisions in March and April because of less information than became available later without giving Trump the same? I'm not looking to give Trump a break...but not looking to give Cuomo one either. The difference is that Cuomo has done better since while Trump has not.
    Sure, to an extent I do give Trump a break for his decisions in March and April. My main problem has not been with his decisions in March and April, but his decisions in May, June, July, August, September, October, and now November. In short, literally half the year's worth of "should know better" coupled with "did not do better".

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    One in five COVID-19 patients develop mental illness within 90 days - study

    Many COVID-19 survivors are likely to be at greater risk of developing mental illness, psychiatrists said on Monday, after a large study found 20% of those infected with the coronavirus are diagnosed with a psychiatric disorder within 90 days.

    Anxiety, depression and insomnia were most common among recovered COVID-19 patients in the study who developed mental health problems. The researchers from Britain’s Oxford University also found significantly higher risks of dementia, a brain impairment condition.

    “People have been worried that COVID-19 survivors will be at greater risk of mental health problems, and our findings ... show this to be likely,” said Paul Harrison, a professor of psychiatry at Oxford.

    Doctors and scientists around the world urgently need to investigate the causes and identify new treatments for mental illness after COVID-19, Harrison said.

    “(Health) services need to be ready to provide care, especially since our results are likely to be underestimates (of the number of psychiatric patients),” he added.

    The study, published in The Lancet Psychiatry journal, analysed electronic health records of 69 million people in the United States, including more than 62,000 cases of COVID-19. The findings are likely to be the same for those afflicted by COVID-19 worldwide, the researchers said

    In the three months following testing positive for COVID-19, 1 in 5 survivors were recorded as having a first time diagnosis of anxiety, depression or insomnia. This was about twice as likely as for other groups of patients in the same period, the researchers said.

    The study also found that people with a pre-existing mental illness were 65% more likely to be diagnosed with COVID-19 than those without.

    Mental health specialists not directly involved with the study said its findings add to growing evidence that COVID-19 can affect the brain and mind, increasing the risk of a range of psychiatric illnesses.
    https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSKBN27P35N

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    Quote Originally Posted by SiteWolf View Post
    I'm not looking to give Trump a break...but not looking to give Cuomo one either. The difference is that Cuomo has done better since while Trump has not.
    Well said

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Sure, to an extent I do give Trump a break for his decisions in March and April.
    I don't. I don't think anyone deserves a break for those decisions.

    If you told me in january that california would do literally nothing until mid March, my assumption would have been that somehow California messed up and somehow had the worst response of any state in the country.

    As time went by, turns out we were ahead of the pack! The amount of fail was just unreal. Un ****in real.

    Even right now there are communities where masks aren't really enforced. Except for some rural areas, I can't wrap my head around that. How are the numbers still rising throughout the midwest? I lightweight can't even comprehend it, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    Does Trump indirectly causing deaths make it better?
    Trump failed to have a coherent national policy on Covid this is true. Had he had one, you would be looking at him in the white house for another 4 years.
    Andrew Cuomo is only upset that the vaccine is going to be available before Trump leaves office after saying that Trump did nothing to fix Covid.
    Last edited by catman; 11-11-2020 at 03:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    Trump failed to have a coherent national policy on Covid this is true. Had he had one, you would be looking at him in the white house for another 4 years.
    Andrew Cuomo is only upset that the vaccine is going to be available before Trump leaves office after saying that Trump did nothing to fix Covid.
    If pfizer of their own accord recommends it and shows what regulation it passed, then I'm sure cuomo will go ahead and start using it.

    If trump is going to sit here and set a timetable (as he did with his november vaccine target date) everybody should steer clear.

    Yes, and along with those 4 years maybe about 200k less dead Americans and $4 trillion less stimulus money/debt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by catman View Post
    Trump failed to have a coherent national policy on Covid this is true. Had he had one, you would be looking at him in the white house for another 4 years.
    Andrew Cuomo is only upset that the vaccine is going to be available before Trump leaves office after saying that Trump did nothing to fix Covid.
    I wasnt aware that either of them developed the vaccine. Do either of them deserve any credit for the vaccine? Who owns the vaccine when its developed? Who makes that sweet sweet scratch? God bless america and its altruistic pharmaceutical companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    I wasnt aware that either of them developed the vaccine. Do either of them deserve any credit for the vaccine? Who owns the vaccine when its developed? Who makes that sweet sweet scratch? God bless america and its altruistic pharmaceutical companies.
    Vaccines are going to overwhelming the suburbs under Biden


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    Quote Originally Posted by nastynice View Post
    If pfizer of their own accord recommends it and shows what regulation it passed, then I'm sure cuomo will go ahead and start using it.

    If trump is going to sit here and set a timetable (as he did with his november vaccine target date) everybody should steer clear.

    Yes, and along with those 4 years maybe about 200k less dead Americans and $4 trillion less stimulus money/debt.

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    We lose more than 200k every year from other things before Covid-19 and that is the government's solution to everything; throw money at it. If people would just re-open and go back to normal like we should have been long ago, there is no need for any stimulus. Covid-19 is not going away; it is going to be a usual thing like the flu or the common cold. The problem with Covid-19 is you have too many people who think each case equals certain death.

    What month are we in to this 14 day flatten the curve thing?

    And trust me, Joe Biden isn't going to do anything different!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccugrad1 View Post
    We lose more than 200k every year from other things before Covid-19 and that is the government's solution to everything; throw money at it. If people would just re-open and go back to normal like we should have been long ago, there is no need for any stimulus. Covid-19 is not going away; it is going to be a usual thing like the flu or the common cold. The problem with Covid-19 is you have too many people who think each case equals certain death.

    What month are we in to this 14 day flatten the curve thing?

    And trust me, Joe Biden isn't going to do anything different!
    I dont think WE are in anything, which seems to be the issue.

    I'd also not recommend getting any injury or illness for the next 3-4 months, the hospitals wont have any time to treat you as is generally the norm during the flu season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spliff(TONE) View Post
    One in five COVID-19 patients develop mental illness within 90 days - study



    https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSKBN27P35N
    Since this particular mental health consequence of Covid-19 infection has been hinted at numerous times, I am not surprised to find some scientific corroboration.

    I wonder if the Great Barrington signatories took this trend into account?

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    Quote Originally Posted by benny01 View Post
    I dont think WE are in anything, which seems to be the issue.

    I'd also not recommend getting any injury or illness for the next 3-4 months, the hospitals wont have any time to treat you as is generally the norm during the flu season.
    lol I tend to try and avoid injury and illness as a general rule

    and, as I find myself suddenly 'temporarily retired' because construction across the country is still so Covid-impacted, both should be relatively easier to accomplish for a few weeks, anyway....
    gotta love 'referential' treatment

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccugrad1 View Post
    We lose more than 200k every year from other things before Covid-19 and that is the government's solution to everything; throw money at it. If people would just re-open and go back to normal like we should have been long ago, there is no need for any stimulus. Covid-19 is not going away; it is going to be a usual thing like the flu or the common cold. The problem with Covid-19 is you have too many people who think each case equals certain death.

    What month are we in to this 14 day flatten the curve thing?

    And trust me, Joe Biden isn't going to do anything different!
    Unreal, you work in health care yet the idea of flattening the curve is something you don't even have a grasp on? lol, that is unreal. What a basic thing..

    The curve was flattened, but rather than moving forward with distance protocol which would allow us to open back up, many places moves forward with some anti mask bull **** and the curve shot back up in many places.

    I really don't see how it's possible to work in health care during this pandemic, yet not be aware of.that.

    You sound ignorant for a random guy, much less a health care worker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccugrad1 View Post
    We lose more than 200k every year from other things before Covid-19 and that is the government's solution to everything; throw money at it. If people would just re-open and go back to normal like we should have been long ago, there is no need for any stimulus. Covid-19 is not going away; it is going to be a usual thing like the flu or the common cold. The problem with Covid-19 is you have too many people who think each case equals certain death.

    What month are we in to this 14 day flatten the curve thing?

    And trust me, Joe Biden isn't going to do anything different!
    More partisan gibberish from one of our esteemed healthcare workers. You all should be ashamed of yourselves.

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